Use for the Tesla Switch

[sucahyo]

I'd think that very fast pulses and many of them would be the way to go, but JB says to pulse for 125ms or 1 sec, the longer the better?

Maybe it can be explained with Dr Harold Aspden info:

http://www.newenergytimes.com/v2/archives/fic/N/N199612.PDF

Areas a and c are energy inputs from the magnetizing winding, whereas c and d are energy inputs that electrical engineers never consider, because that energy is supplied by the aether.

If you run the motor over the lower flux density range, which is normal, then you operate at an efficiency which can not exceed (a+b)/2a, which is 100%. On the other hand, if the motor operates over the higher range, the efficiency can reach up to (c+d)/2c, which is very much higher than 100%.

Consider some realistic figures by putting the knee in the curve at 15,000 gauss and assuming that the incremental B/H ratio is 1000 over the lower range but only 50 over the upper range. Operate the stator core of the motor up to a B value of 20,000H ranges from 15 to 115 over this upper range. Work out the area c as being (15_115)x5000/2 or 325,000 and the area d as being (15,000 + 20,000) x 100/2 or 1,750,000. You will then see the operation close to 319% efficiency is indicated.

Maybe the long pulse needed to almost saturate the iron core, but should be shorter enough not to fully saturate. Based from other writing, a heater like core of iron sandwitch is better for greater effect. The opposite of what current transfomer use, instead of perpendicular with direction of winding, it should be in parallel.

Am I right to assume that to get the best gain we need to:
- Turn off power H when the magnet B almost saturated / linier.
- let the magnetic field B reach half it's saturated state, not too soon, not too late.
- turn the power again until almost saturated
- repeat

No idea how we know the saturation level of the magnet though...

[ldissing]

Team, everyone is on the right track and call it what you want but, we all think different in our "minds eye". So that said, this is an equation, "But not in the traditional sense". Look, we are NOT just trying to light the bulbs (we can and if we use small ones and light them brightly or blow them out in Leroy's case) that does not get us to the finish line. Oh yes, we can put larger ones in and get them to glow but that consumes to much current. The batts last a long time (alot longer than if it was just one powering the same load) so it is time to think outside of the box. How can we move large amounts of potential, while NOT creating current, and use that to our advantage? Start with replacing the lights (load) with a transformer(s). I had illustrated that earlier, but must admit, I have been pretty busy with other projects and have not gotten back to it. If we can "oscillate" the potiential from side to side we create "frequency" something the transformers love and we are able to create higher voltages. If we are to try place a normal load on the transformer, Uncle Lenz will destroy our charging effect. Let something else do the work. Let the transformer fill a cap and let the "Cap" do the work. I said earlier that we all think differently, I personally view this as a Country water tower in that "feed the water tower through a small pipe" and enjoy the volume of "Pressure" (potential). Leroy, I commend you for your statements.

My thoughts

Bit's

Are you commending me for the one where I said, "I don't know squat"? We are all learning, some more than others. Matt has very good skills, both expermentally, and intuitively, so I do not intend to offend him, but I don't always succeed. He and you are the leaders in this technology, I'm still learning. I wish I knew a lot more about impedance, even though my "college" learnin' was in engineering, analog was the thing I hated most. Now I know it was important....but it was probably not totally correct anyway. I'll just keep plugin' along and maybe learn something one of these days.

Leroy

[Bit's-n-Bytes]

Team, everyone is on the right track and call it what you want but, we all think different in our "minds eye". So that said, this is an equation, "But not in the traditional sense". Look, we are NOT just trying to light the bulbs (we can and if we use small ones and light them brightly or blow them out in Leroy's case) that does not get us to the finish line. Oh yes, we can put larger ones in and get them to glow but that consumes to much current. The batts last a long time (alot longer than if it was just one powering the same load) so it is time to think outside of the box. How can we move large amounts of potential, while NOT creating current, and use that to our advantage? Start with replacing the lights (load) with a transformer(s). I had illustrated that earlier, but must admit, I have been pretty busy with other projects and have not gotten back to it. If we can "oscillate" the potiential from side to side we create "frequency" something the transformers love and we are able to create higher voltages. If we are to try place a normal load on the transformer, Uncle Lenz will destroy our charging effect. Let something else do the work. Let the transformer fill a cap and let the "Cap" do the work. I said earlier that we all think differently, I personally view this as a Country water tower in that "feed the water tower through a small pipe" and enjoy the volume of "Pressure" (potential). Leroy, I commend you for your statements.

My thoughts

Bit's

[ldissing]

LOL Idissing
You caught me on a bad day. LOL but you do need to watch pointing out what could be wrong instead of what could be right.

How much amperage goes across the the transistors? or the load?

Matt

I'm not sure I can measure the current, but I can try....with the meters that I have. When I was getting a lot of heat, I was switching sides as fast as I could with the processor that I have...roughly one instruction every 500 ns. One side on, the other side on, etc.

Leroy

[ldissing]

To those I upset!

To all, who I piss off! Ignore any insult, it is not intended. I am trying to learn, testing, and experimenting. I mean no offense, even though you may see it as intended. I want to make this thing sing, not piss you off, so if you get miffed, think for a moment....I don't know any more and probably less than you do, so don't let it bug you. I'm just an experimenter and not a good one at that, so yell at me if you want, but don't go away! I will try to take it in stride, because I don't know squat.

Leroy

[ldissing]

Hi Leroy,
no problems for me. Until a few days ago, I had not realised this thread had been running. I built a TS about 18months ago. I have replied to Aaron on the Carlos Benitez thread. This should show you what I had been up to with the TS

Regards
Rob

When you say SSR, do you mean SCR? I'm having trouble with the terminology!

Thanks,

Leroy

[ldissing]

LOL Idissing
You caught me on a bad day. LOL but you do need to watch pointing out what could be wrong instead of what could be right.

How much amperage goes across the the transistors? or the load?

Matt

I'll keep trying to point out what is right. Like I would know what is right.

The interesting thing is, I'm trying to do what JB says you should be able to do. How much potential in 1us before any current appears. So, not much. I do not know the actual amount, but it does not blow a 6V bulb at 300ma. The interesting thing was when both loads were lit....I was using a 1.2 V bulb and a high impedance led, both were lit. (I only have one of the 3.2V - 3.8V blue bulbs that JB was using because I blew the others), but why would both be lit....except some kind of resonance? Both will light if I use a 2.47V bulb and the led too, or a 6V bulb and the led. So, the led seems to accepts whatever the resonance is and light up even though there is not a signal on that side. It is interesting.

My code was signaling one side on and off for between 10000 - 255000 times, then switches to the other side. It goes as fast as it can at 8 Mhz, no interrupts, just code. I mistakenly had the code at an int value (255 max) and had the code written to go to 500000 times, but, of course, it never switched and it definitely drove the non-signaled side to 14.5 volts before I stopped it. So, even with this small time (and current), you can drive the opposite side to 14.5 volts withing 5-15 minutes easily. Don't know if this means anything, but it did work even with small currents to 14.5 V.

Leroy

p.s. I have over 14.0 volts over the side that is being charged....where JB says we should have 14V.

[ourbobby]

@Leroy

Hi Leroy,
no problems for me. Until a few days ago, I had not realised this thread had been running. I built a TS about 18months ago. I have replied to Aaron on the Carlos Benitez thread. This should show you what I had been up to with the TS

Regards
Rob

[Matthew Jones]

LOL Idissing
You caught me on a bad day. LOL but you do need to watch pointing out what could be wrong instead of what could be right.

How much amperage goes across the the transistors? or the load?

Matt

[ldissing]

I can't reply to anything Matt says, because I told him I wouldn't. With one small change in my code, I went from HOT transistors to cool transistors. It doesn't really make any sense to me, so any thoughts are appreciated.

Leroy

P.S. With some particular loads, both are lit. With others, only one lit at a time....interesting.

[ldissing]

Hi there,
thanks for the comment. First, this thread has been going Two years?
Only now are questions being asked as to the influence of other aspects of components in the circuit.

IMHO, Edison was referring to the Atmosphere as the source of Etheric influence. So, ask yourself what the components of the atmosphere are.
Next, I never said it was so "freaking simple".

I also think after my own analysis of the Tesla switch done some time ago that the problem lies is the ability of batteries to hold and process the ion transfers. Remember John Bedini's original cigar box example used Nicads from memory. A close look at the Carlos Benitez patent will illustrate several issues. The first, and possibly the most important is his use of an "internal combustion engine". that should start ringing alarm bells on "Free Energy". The other important point is his reference to his choice of accumulators. The nickel Iron - NiFe batteries. The problems I had - very similar to those described by John K - from my research, indicated that it would have to be the result of the manufacturing process. I used old auto batteries, which are constructed using the Faure method of lead paste. I think that this method - for the purpose of pulsing and the TS, encourages an internal resistance at the points of bonding or act similarly to the junction of a semiconductor. Hence, all energy advantages that might be gained are lost at the junctures.

On the issue of solid state and the Tesla Switch. IMHO, solid state components make good controls, but, will not be able to deliver the HV pulsing necessary to capture the essence of the "Etheric Influence" necessary to supply the excess current that is being sought.

I'll get out of your hair now

Regards

Rob

@Rob,

Glad to see you are around. You said it was "easy to manipulate" if I remember correctly. Or at least it was not as hard as we think. I'm doing some interesting experiments with this now, but I'd be very happy to hear how you think it can be "manipulated". I tend to piss people off, and I do not intend to do that, but it seems to always happen. People seem to be sensitive, and I have this problem too, I'm still trying to overcome it myself. Any pointers you have would be welcome.

Are you in agreement that it means no current, or am I and Gerry and Tesla and JB incorrect on this one too?

Leroy

[Matthew Jones]

@sigzidfit
Your missing the point. How is so much heat generated in the coil and not in the switch. Adams went through this too. His motors were thermal based. Its not until he slowed it down that he realized how to catch the energy.
Positive energy we use cannot co exist on the wire at the same time as negative. If they start to conflict with each other they create an artificial ground in the load they are both occupying. HEAT.
The other thing is why no charge coming out the back end. If the motor is running at 1-2 amp in from the 24 volt side why aren't we getting anything out the back end? Same reason we are making heat.

If we can drive a coil or transformer (Same thing) at a good rate and switch of the incoming negative energy we can catch it and use it. As soon as it hits the battery it starts to convert.
If we are not pulling amperage cause the switching rate then we should be able to grab the negative. At the same time we grab it in the primary coil we use it inductive energy in secondary coil to collect.

You wanna see it and how it acts?
Its easy, use a bilfiliar coil to setup a pulse motor. Only Drive from one coil.
Hook the second one to a bridge with NO LOAD.
Measure the AC output then measure the DC on the bridge. It should be bigger. ADD another bridge from the DC of the first to the AC of the second. Measure again. Try to pull a load off of it, should give much. Now put a cap on it and see how far up the cap charges. Then pull the load.

We should be able to create this same effect in a manner from 4 batteries with out it costing us on the front end.


You just got to allow the energy to come in and be used, with out interfering with the energy we are putting in. The batteries have to be able to take it and absorb it. Not so easy with crappy batteries.

Matt

Now imagine it as a Tesla switch.

[sigzidfit]

...the heat emitted from the coil is tens time what it should be.

My theory is that because OU is massive, the effects may be destructive to the machine making it. Thats why engineers spend so much time engineering against it.

Would another wire in that coil be able to pull the heat out?

Peace
PJ

[ourbobby]

I'm not saying that he doesn't know, but why didn't he tell us what "Etheric force" is, and how it works? If it is so freakin' simple to manipulate, then why can't we do it? Because we do not know what it is.

Leroy

Hi there,
thanks for the comment. First, this thread has been going Two years?
Only now are questions being asked as to the influence of other aspects of components in the circuit.

IMHO, Edison was referring to the Atmosphere as the source of Etheric influence. So, ask yourself what the components of the atmosphere are.
Next, I never said it was so "freaking simple".

I also think after my own analysis of the Tesla switch done some time ago that the problem lies is the ability of batteries to hold and process the ion transfers. Remember John Bedini's original cigar box example used Nicads from memory. A close look at the Carlos Benitez patent will illustrate several issues. The first, and possibly the most important is his use of an "internal combustion engine". that should start ringing alarm bells on "Free Energy". The other important point is his reference to his choice of accumulators. The nickel Iron - NiFe batteries. The problems I had - very similar to those described by John K - from my research, indicated that it would have to be the result of the manufacturing process. I used old auto batteries, which are constructed using the Faure method of lead paste. I think that this method - for the purpose of pulsing and the TS, encourages an internal resistance at the points of bonding or act similarly to the junction of a semiconductor. Hence, all energy advantages that might be gained are lost at the junctures.

On the issue of solid state and the Tesla Switch. IMHO, solid state components make good controls, but, will not be able to deliver the HV pulsing necessary to capture the essence of the "Etheric Influence" necessary to supply the excess current that is being sought.

I'll get out of your hair now

Regards

Rob

[Stealth]

AA batterys

I had several AA nicad batteries that were at about .2 volt. They would not charge up in a conventional battery charger, as they retained their memory.I took them all the way down to where no voltage registered on the meter. Still they would not charge in the conventional way. I ran them on my homemade Tesla switch for about a minute. Then rechecked them.They had gained .5 volt. Then I put them on a conventional charger to see if it made any difference. They charged within a minute to 1.2 volts. I then tested them in a flashlight, and then after a minute rechecked the voltage, which was still holding at 1.2 volt. I then ran them on my TS again, and then recharged the convetional way about a minute each, all three batteries came up to 1.5 volts. Then I decided to try some carbon batteries the same way. It worked jsut a s good as the nicads, and also tried some alkaline which also worked the same way. The TS, reconditioned those dead or dying batteries and gave them new life. I don't know how many more cycles this will work, but I did revive those. Good Luck. Stealth