The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus applied to electromagnetism

[MonsieurM]

I understand now. You are seeking to know how these things correspond with one another. And in bridging the gap between these create a super structure of everything as whole. I think the first logical step would to be not to chase our tail. There are several scientist. Two of which are of notable honor. Stephen Hawking is one, Leonard mlodinow is another and there are several others. I believe it wise to be able to seek out their viewpoints on our topics of discussion before we finalize a conclusion of our own. This way we do not walk down a dead-end street.
Secondly a road to nowhere never gets built. If we are simply trying to attain knowledge well there is plenty of it but in the end we will be like a computer; full of knowledge but with no wisdom of how to use it.
And lastly we need to have a common goal. If we are seeking to translate this tractate then we must start from the beginning and translate it to the most common language while sticking to the truest interpretation thereof. Most written works are motivationally written and carry the heart and intent of the writer, which often times helps us to read between the lines or lets us know what motivated him to write it in the first place. This will keep us on track with the subject matter and keep us from straying to wild conclusions. In this we will be able to determine what information will be useful to helping us to our destination and which is only wasting our time.
So, are we seeking to glean knowledge for wisdom? Then we must have projects to certify our assumptions and log our findings. And of course simply move on if the subject matter when translated has nothing to do with our goal rather than twist the subject matter to our liking.
And to be honest the one that you chose is about how it is more noble to chose healing over killing. This is a profound lesson for many and ads to the character of any person and might fall under the title of 'correspondence' simply because it pushes people to see the wisdom of discovery in knowledge which helps us to communicate better on an interpersonal level and as a community of people. It could also fall under polarity because it causes us all to be on the same sheet of music and heading in a common direction.

or it could be about Magnetism, remember what Paracelsus (father of pharmacology)

“Magnetism is the King of All Secrets.” Paracelus

Paracelsus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I Agree with you, it is quite hard to match all the texts to electromagnetism, but surely, Since there is correspondence in everything, as everything reflects the other, we should treat each other as one, we exist as part and The Whole; knowing this, doesn't it allows us to have a better comprehension of the Tractate

the key to grasping what Hermes is trying to convey was given to us by himself in the form of "as above so below, as within so without" (the golden mean )



As Above So Below As Within so Without

Access : Solid-state physics: Golden ratio seen in a magnet : Nature

The golden ratio — an exact 'magic' number often claimed to be observed when taking ratios of distances in ancient and modern architecture, sculpture and painting — has been spotted in a magnetic compound.

And lastly we need to have a common goal. If we are seeking to translate this tractate then we must start from the beginning and translate it to the most common language while sticking to the truest interpretation thereof. Most written works are motivationally written and carry the heart and intent of the writer, which often times helps us to read between the lines or lets us know what motivated him to write it in the first place. This will keep us on track with the subject matter and keep us from straying to wild conclusions.

lead the way, and i will follow

[MonsieurM]

From Shawn's Translation

It is therefore better to cause water to vaporize, to stop the sin of killing living creatures for oil, to stop the spread of disease, and this by simply moving in a positive direction and not a negative one.

see experiment : Three Soviet scientists, S. STSCHURIN, V. P. and L. KAZNACHEJEU Michailova, confirmed after more
than 5 000 experiments that living cells transmit information through photons:

http://www.energeticforum.com/136258-post21.html

[MonsieurM]

I also do not think that the majority of this Emerald tablet is metaphysical but is in all actuality very physical. There is probably an entrance way to sub-terrainian caverns under the pyramids which hold real scrolls. And if he did have an anti-gravity device then it would explain allot. And I imagine this guy was one of the builder gods as described by the Egyptians. Which only confirms my beliefs that the Egyptians did not build the pyramids.
,Shawn

to help give you a clearer idea, i hope

An alien intelligence is going to be more advanced. That means efficiency functioning on multiple levels and in multiple dimensions.

see also :
Steganography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Steganography is the art and science of writing hidden messages in such a way that no one, apart from the sender and intended recipient, suspects the existence of the message, a form of security through obscurity. The word steganography is of Greek origin and means "concealed writing" from the Greek words steganos (στεγανός) meaning "covered or protected", and graphei (γράφη) meaning "writing". The first recorded use of the term was in 1499 by Johannes Trithemius in his Steganographia, a treatise on cryptography and steganography disguised as a book on magic. Generally, messages will appear to be something else: images, articles, shopping lists, or some other covertext and, classically, the hidden message may be in invisible ink between the visible lines of a private letter.

[shawnnweed]

to help give you a clearer idea, i hope





see also :
Steganography - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This i can adimately agree with. I personally beleive that the emerald tablet was one of those tablets that according to the correct monochromatic spectrum of light, temperature of heat, tone of sound, rate of vibration, etc. or even combination thereof would reveal it's true content. It is my guess that in normal light it would reveal a basic message that would be nothing more important than a grocery list. This was one of my first thoughts when I read the article and saw the picture. Another thought when I read the article was that it mentioned thousands of scrolls that were condensed into a few hundred. Which shows an advanced means of recording data, possibly even holographic. yet He didn't throw away the written scrolls which also shows an inteligence for having a soft copy(data) and hard copy(written). I wished we had an original to study.
,Shawn

[shawnnweed]

or it could be about Magnetism, remember what Paracelsus (father of pharmacology)



Paracelsus - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


I Agree with you, it is quite hard to match all the texts to electromagnetism, but surely, Since there is correspondence in everything, as everything reflects the other, we should treat each other as one, we exist as part and The Whole; knowing this, doesn't it allows us to have a better comprehension of the Tractate

the key to grasping what Hermes is trying to convey was given to us by himself in the form of "as above so below, as within so without" (the golden mean )



As Above So Below As Within so Without

Access : Solid-state physics: Golden ratio seen in a magnet : Nature





lead the way, and i will follow

alright then let us determine a few things.

1. Let us start with the theory that electromagnetism is the bridge which connects all things. What is electromagnetism according to science and different scientist. What findings did they have that proved or disproved their tests. More than one viewpoint whether right or wrong will help us determine what is a good solid foundation on which to build and might even help us determine direction.
2. Let us determine what are 'all' things? Are all things physical or metaphysical? Are all things solid, liquid and gas? Etc.
3. By what means are we going to test all things. There needs to be a list that we follow when testing all things so that each object gets the same series of tests.
4. What tools for meaurement will we need to test all things. And if we do not have the proper tools or machines for measurement we must then determine if someone else has done the same experiment we are undertaking and what were his findings.
This is my suggestion for a start. Before building the edifice we must, determine a location to build a proper foundation, study the blue prints to work out flaws, collect the necesarry and proper building material and tools, hire qualified man power then start building.
This forum will be our location. Our foundation will be electromagnetism. let's build a house or a series of houses. Let's go with #2.

[MonsieurM]

Are all things physical or metaphysical? Are all things solid, liquid and gas? Etc.

In the words of the Kybalion:

. Let us take a radical and extreme example--that of "Love and Hate," two mental states apparently totally different. And yet there are degrees of Hate and degrees of Love, and a middle point in which we use the terms "Like or Dislike," which shade into each other so gradually that sometimes we are at a loss to know whether we "like" or "dislike" or "neither." And all are simply degrees of the same thing

The Principle of Vibration.

"Nothing rests; everything moves; everything vibrates." -The Kybalion.

This Principle embodies the truth that" everything is in motion, 'everything vibrates"; "nothing is at rest"; facts which Modern Science endorses, and which each new scientific discovery tends to verify. And yet this Hermetic Principle was enunciated thousands of years ago, by the Masters of Ancient Egypt. This Principle explains that the differences between different manifestations of Matter, Energy, Mind, and even Spirit, result largely from varying rates of Vibration. From THE ALL, which is Pure Spirit, down to the grossest form of Matter, all is in vibration-the higher the vibration, the higher the position in the scale (Fractal Scale that is,see picture below ).

Physical and Metaphysical are but the same part of a "Hidden Engine"

I propose to consider the seven principles of the Kybalion as our starting point (the blue prints ) since it reflects the referential by which Hermes Trismegistus defined his Truth...

3. Mental Transmutation: Mind ... may be transmuted

4. The All: ... Under, and back of, the Universe of Time, Space and Change...

5. The Mental Universe: ...The Universe is Mental-held...

6. The Divine Paradox: The half-wise... imagine...

7. "The All" in All: To him who truly understands this truth...

8. Planes of Correspondence: ...there is a harmony...and correspondence...

9. Vibration: Nothing rests; everything moves...

10. Polarity: Everything is dual; everything has poles...

11. Rhythm: Everything flows out and in...

12. Causation: Every Cause has its Effect; every Effect has its Cause... (remember Walter Russell )

13. Gender: Gender is in everything...

14. Mental Gender: ... the persistence of the dual-mind idea...

15. Hermetic Axioms: The Law of Use is Universal

Gnostic.Org: The Kybalion

[MonsieurM]

3. By what means are we going to test all things. There needs to be a list that we follow when testing all things so that each object gets the same series of tests.

from Harmonic Resonance by Randall Cole ROFFE

The application of the principles of one science into another is often neglected. Today we have a massive and growing volume of experimentally proven information that certainly does not always find its every application. In the real world, we can work from scientific theory, through experimentation, into an engineered result, but just as often we work via reverse engineering, from the result back into the origin.

[MonsieurM]

Please read the introduction to the Kybalion

Gnostic.Org: The Kybalion

you'll understand then...

"The Art of Hermetic Alchemy," which, contrary to the general belief, dealt in the mastery of Mental Forces, rather than Material Elements-the Transmutation of one kind of Mental Vibrations into others, instead of the changing of one kind of metal into another. The legends of the "Philosopher's Stone" which would turn base metal into Gold, was an allegory relating to Hermetic Philosophy, readily understood by all students of true Hermeticism.

Our Conscious Mind Could Be An Electromagnetic Field

Our Conscious Mind Could Be An Electromagnetic Field
Are our thoughts made of the distributed kind of electromagnetic field that permeates space and carries the broadcast signal to the TV or radio.

Professor Johnjoe McFadden from the School of Biomedical and Life Sciences at the University of Surrey in the UK believes our conscious mind could be an electromagnetic field.

“The theory solves many previously intractable problems of consciousness and could have profound implications for our concepts of mind, free will, spirituality, the design of artificial intelligence, and even life and death,” he said.

Most people consider "mind" to be all the conscious things that we are aware of. But much, if not most, mental activity goes on without awareness. Actions such as walking, changing gear in your car or peddling a bicycle can become as automatic as breathing.

The biggest puzzle in neuroscience is how the brain activity that we're aware of (consciousness) differs from the brain activity driving all of those unconscious actions.

From: http://www.energeticforum.com/psychi...l-antenna.html

[MonsieurM]

Just a Note on Nature's Fractal Engine (Golden Ratio ):

This Principle embodies the truth that there is always a Correspondence between the laws and phenomena of the various planes of Being and Life. The old Hermetic axiom ran in these words: "As above, so below; as below, so above." And the grasping of this Principle gives one the means of solving many a dark paradox, and hidden secret of Nature. There are planes beyond our knowing, but when we apply the Principle of Correspondence to them we are able to understand much that would otherwise be unknowable to us. This Principle is of universal application and manifestation, on the various planes of the material, mental, and spiritual universe-it is an Universal Law. The ancient Hermetists considered this Principle as one of the most important mental instruments by which man was able to pry aside the obstacles which hid from view the Unknown. Its use even tore aside the Veil of Isis to the extent that a glimpse of the face of the goddess might be caught. Just as a knowledge of the Principles of Geometry enables man to measure distant suns and their movements, while seated in his observatory, so a knowledge of the Principle of Correspondence enables Man to reason intelligently from the Known to the Unknown. Studying the monad, he understands the archangel..

finding the corresponding fractal engine in other words

Studying the monad, he understands the archangel

example: Nuclear Fusion study of atoms lead to nuclear fusion which explained the sun's power source

"Every Cause has its Effect; every Effect has its Cause; everything happens according to Law; Chance is but a name for Law not recognized; there are many planes of causation, but nothing escapes the Law."- The Kybalion.

Experience is made before the law is formulated, both are related like cause and effect. Nikola Tesla

[shawnnweed]

In the words of the Kybalion:







Physical and Metaphysical are but the same part of a "Hidden Engine"

I propose to consider the seven principles of the Kybalion as our starting point (the blue prints ) since it reflects the referential by which Hermes Trismegistus defined his Truth...



Gnostic.Org: The Kybalion

Alright then let us put it to the test.

[MonsieurM]

Our building blocks are:

"THE ALL is MIND; The Universe is Mental."

"As above, so below; as below, so above."

"Nothing rests; everything moves; everything vibrates."

"Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites; like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled."

"Everything flows, out and in; everything has its tides; all things rise and fall; the pendulum-swing manifests in everything; the measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm compensates."

"Every Cause has its Effect; every Effect has its Cause; everything happens according to Law; Chance is but a name for Law not recognized; there are many planes of causation, but nothing escapes the Law."

"Gender is in everything; everything has its Masculine and Feminine Principles; Gender manifests on all planes."

If you are not familiar with them, read it here Gnostic.Org: The Kybalion

[MonsieurM]

where do you want to start, I leave to you the honor of deciding

[MonsieurM]

The kybalion was written in 1908:

Let us now proceed to a consideration of the nature of the Universe, as a whole and in its parts. What is the Universe? We have seen that there can be nothing outside of THE ALL. Then is the Universe THE ALL? No, this cannot be, because the Universe seems to be made up of MANY, and is constantly changing, and in other ways it does not measure up to the ideas that we are compelled to accept regarding THE ALL, as stated in our last lesson. .

Multiverse = Many Worlds, Say Physicists - Technology Review

When Rich was asked how UFO propulsion worked, he said, “Let me ask you. How does ESP work?” The questioner responded with, “All points in time and space are connected?” Rich then said, “That’s how it works!”

Using the Law of Correspondence ( Gnostic.Org: The Kybalion ), I give u one of the missing formulas:

It is called Kleiber's Law.

E=M3/4

It is called Kleiber's Law.

It states that the energy needed by an organism at rest (not doing any specific exercise), is not proportional to its mass, but sub-linear.

It can be attributed to many factors and one of them is that the more massive an organism (ie: a fractal system such as you, a plant, a planet, a sun, a solar system etc...) is, the less surface per volume it present. If the organism is represented par a sphere of diameter D, volume scale with D^3, but surface scales with D^2. But energy produced by the body is proportional to volume, while energy lost is proportional to external surface.

To sum up, a little body loose a lot of heat and its little body can not sustain it. Therefore there is a lower limit to the size of hot blooded animals, which is bigger than the one for cold blooded ones.

see post: http://www.energeticforum.com/148789-post127.html

[MonsieurM]

The Teachings are that Matter is but a form of Energy-that is, Energy at a low rate of vibrations of a certain kind.

[shawnnweed]

let me catch up on some of the posts you have placed and we will begin.