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    I hate to start a new thread for something trivial. War is never trivial. The great powers of the world are marshalling their forces and arming. There have been proxy wars. Unfortunately, they are heating up. The latest episode is the murder of an Iranian cleric.
    Iranians Burns Saudi Embassy In Tehran Over Nimr Murder
    Iraq's al-Maliki 'Reaffirms' Saudi Arabia Will Be Destroyed

    Genie Energy confirmed that it has discovered oil and gas in this occupied territory held by Israel on the Golan Heights, which is formally the territory of, guess who — Syria. So while the pipeline issue was the real reason behind Obama wanting to invade Syria, we now have to add Israel to this mix Oil | Armstrong Economics
    Most people have no idea in the West what a Sunni-Shiite conflict is all about and that this has been a cyclical trend between peace and war since Muhammad died in 632. Sunni-Shiite Civil War | Armstrong Economics
    Pox Americana tried to get a war with NATO started in Ukraine. Putin wouldn't fall for it. Pox Americana tried to get a war going with Turkey and Russia. Putin sidestepped direct war. Israel wants the gas and oil in the Golan Heights. The United Nations said that the Golan Heights belongs to Syria. There are ongoing efforts to drive Syria back to the stone age so that that israel can just walk in and take the oil.
    The execution of Nimr is an attempt to get Iran to attack. If pox Americana can't provoke Putin, maybe it can provoke Iran. Russia is directly backing Iran. U.S. is backing Turkey. China is siding with Russia. Europe is starting to get the idea that america is going to put them through the meat grinder.

    Saudi attacked Yemen knowing that Iran would probably support them. Turkey is going into both Syria and Iraq. Chechens and Pakistani fighters are going to Daesh. Hezbollah is in Syria. Hezbollah could over run israel. Iran is flooding the oil markets and Saudi Arabia is fast going broke. The saudi Wahhabis are real nutcases but, executing a cleric to provoke Iran is worse than stupid.

    The neo-cons seem to believe that they can make Russia and China back down. Armstrong' "This is not a Christmas message I cared to write. Oil will be VERY CRITICAL as a signal for 2016 because we also have the War Cycle that turned up in 2014 and is now moving sharply higher into 2017."
    Turkey, israel, Russia and Pakistan all have nukes. Russia has their doomsday device;
    If Pox Americana can't get Putin or Iran to do something stupid, maybe it can get Saudi or Turkey to do something adequately stupid to start a wider war. Saudi faces revolution when it goes broke. Yemen is kicking Saud butt with Iranian weapons. The Sauds have to be pretty stupid to think that war is better than revolution.
    The great danger is that the proxies will drag in the major players. iran can easily attack Kharg island and shut down Saudi oil production. Iran can easily shut down the Straights of Hormuz. They only need to attack one tanker and insurance rates will become prohibitive. Putin is not going to back down. That would mean the destruction of Russia and the later destruction of China.
    Any of these things could happen. There are too many STUPID people with their finger on the button.

  • #2
    killing the opposition

    The powers that be naturally want to stay in power. It has been predicted that 'they" would kill Trump. Martin Armstrong said that "they" would not allow the likes of Le Pen or Farage to be elected. Reportedly, somebody tried to kill Farage. Nigel Farage's car wheels 'were sabotaged in an assassination attempt' | Daily Mail Online


    • #3
      Russia and Germany

      "For 20 years after the end of the Cold War, deadly conflict was in decline. Fewer wars were killing fewer people the world over. Five years ago, however, that positive trend went into reverse"

      Read more: These 10 Conflicts Could Escalate Into a Major War
      The bankers and arms dealers were losing too much money.
      This article lays out the sunni--shia divide; Saudi, Iran, Sunni, Shia: This Just Became The Most Important Map In Geopolitics
      Anglo-American interests have LONG tried to prevent an alliance of Russia and Germany. Stratfor: ?US aims to prevent a German-Russian alliance? | Global Research - Centre for Research on Globalization
      Pox Americana has show itself perfectly willing to throw Europe into the meat grinder of war once again. The Europeans are wising up and have broken away. Pox Americana couldn't stand the idea of world peace and has now created just what it wanted to avoid;
      Syria: Germany, France break out of U.S. Alliance against Russia | Veterans Today
      The neo-con plan of total domination of Eurasia depended on blocking Russia-Europe alliances. The plan also didn't allow a China-Russia alliance.
      The neo-cons are trying to strangle Russia economically by blocking pipelines and warm-water ports. Turkey controls the Bosporos and Russia's access to the Black Sea. Pox Americana tried to deny Russia's access to the port of Sevastopol in Crimea.
      Much of the world has had enough of Pox Americana and just wants to peacefully go about getting filthy rich conducting free trade.


      • #4

        Reportedly, North Korea has detonated a hydrogen bomb. This would normally make me nervous because megalomaniacs should NOT have powerful weapons. North Korea says it has conducted hydrogen bomb test -
        What makes me even more nervous is that the belligerent explosion by N.K. of a nuclear weapon is one of the major signposts on the road to the killshot.


        • #5
          The defence industry,,,, a jobs program

          A major part of the American economy is dependent on the war industries. The cold war was an ongoing jobs program. Obummer has a military budget that is near an all-time high even though the economy is tanking;
          The F-35 is a total P.O.S but, we are going to buy tons of them. It (originally) didn't matter if they were good planes or not,,,, as long as they created jobs.
          Now that Russia is kicking butt, aircraft performance has become important again.
          Look at the headlines and think, "jobs programs".
          Russia-NATO Relations At New Cold War Level
          Why Is America Restarting Cold War With Russia?
          World is fighting a new Cold War, Russia's Medvedev says
          Russia Concerned With NATO Buildup On Russian Borders

          That's not to say that things couldn't blow up into outright war. Erdogan and the Sauds are total nutcases.
          US Risks Turning New Cold War Into A Nuclear One
          Limited Nuclear War Within 18 Days If Saudis Invade Syria
          President Assad Vows Recapture Of Entire Nation Syria
          US Condemns Assad Vow To Free Syria From Terrorists
          Joint Turkish-Saudi Assault On Syria Now Imminent
          Turkey, Saudis May Launch Ground War On Syria
          Saudi Jets To Fly Missions In Syria From Turkish Base
          Saudis In Syrian War Would Risk Russian Wrath
          Russian Warns Against Syrian Conflict Igniting WW 3


          • #6
            Iran, Syria and Russia against Saudi and Turkey

            Saudi and Turkey seem determined to start a wider war in Syria. So, who is behind all this?
            Top Israeli Officials Urge Sectarian Partition Of Syria
            Ground Op In Syria Means Full-Fledged War - Russia PM
            Russian PM - Turkey 'Set Up' NATO By Killing Russian Jet I think that they over-reached on that plan.
            Iran Will Defend Syrian Airspace If Damascus Requests Iran has some real good battlefield capabilities.
            Iraq Sends Military Forces To Border With Saudi Arabia Apparently, Iraq is willing to knock heads with both Saudi and Turkey.
            Turkish Forces Now In Syria Says Damascus
            Turkey Shells Two Towns In Syria's Aleppo Province


            • #7
              War in Turkey-Syria

              RonPaul; "But it was Turkey's dramatic moves on Saturday that led us to wonder whether the first shots of World War III had been fired"
              "The Turkish direct attack on Syrian government forces inside Syria is an escalation so dramatic that even the US government went on record requesting that the Turks immediately cease firing"
              "The French also requested that their Turkish NATO allies cease and desist from attacking Syria"
              The Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity : Has Turkey Just Started WWIII?

              "Clear indications are emerging in Washington, DC, that the Pentagon is preparing to support a direct military invasion of Syria by Turkish Armed Forces" How Far Will The U.S. Go If Turkey Invades Syria? |
              Erdogan soon faces a civil war at home.


              • #8
                Nutcasses in Turkey and idiots in France

                "The U.S. will have to act within the next 24 hours, on their own, if they are to be seen as the force they are now claiming to have been all along - See more at: The Turning Points Are Here
                ,,,raise the temperature toward the global-war that no one with any sense wants to ever see—but only time will tell over the next 24-48 hours,

                Erdogan's Plan - Islamic Empire…Or Armageddon
                Russia Calls UNSC Mtng To Stop Turkey From Invading
                NATO Warns Turkey It Won’t Support Conflict With Russia Good news
                'Moscow Must Stop Supporting Assad - France buncha idiots
                "All Israel Within Range Of 100,000 Hezbollah Missiles" Plus 110,000 Iranian missiles. That could get messy.
                5,000 ISIS Militants Trained In Syria, Iraq Walk Free In Europe That could get messy.
                France, "He said: "In 15 days we have seized one-third of the quantity of war-grade weapons that are normally seized in a year." ( in mosques) That could get messy.
                "Saudi Halts $3b Military Aid To Lebanon" No kidding. They must have finally figured out that aid to Lebanon was going straight to Hezbollah.


                • #9
                  Saudi suicide

                  Russia Says It Was The CIA, NOT Turkey, That Downed Russian Jet
                  ,,,,previous agreement with the United States is now suspended and that the much feared S-400 defense missile system will now be deployed to the Hmeymim airbase in Syria—whose missiles have a range of 250 kilometers (155 miles) [the Turkish border, at its closest, is less than 50 miles away], and when combined with the airspace defense provided by the Moskva naval cruiser, will now spell certain death for any other Turkish-CIA-NATO aircraft should they ever again attempt to target a Federation warplane.
                  Russia Says It Was The CIA, NOT Turkey, That Downed Russian Jet « InvestmentWatch
                  Everybody wants to invade Syria but, nobody wants to get in the way of the S-300 and S-400 missiles.
                  "World War 3 Could Start This Month: 350,000 Soldiers In Saudi Arabia Stand Ready To Invade Syria" World War 3 Could Start This Month: 350,000 Soldiers In Saudi Arabia Stand Ready To Invade Syria » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!
                  Theoretically, they could do a ground invasion without air cover. Russia can jam ALL aircraft. They can also detect stealth aircraft.
                  "He also reaffirmed the need for a ground invasion to accomplish that goal.

                  In the video below, while outlining the weapons of war he confirmed that the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia possess a Nuclear Bomb. "
                  Video: Saudi Arabia Says They Have a Nuke; They Are Invading Syria | Politics


                  • #10
                    No suicidal war this week.

                    China has sent an aircraft carrier and a guided missile cruiser to the Russian port in Syria at Tartus. A Chinese aircraft carrier docks at Tartus, Syria to support Russian-Iranian military buildup | JEWSNEWS They couldn't be ANY clearer about their intentions and allies.
                    NATO had this to say; "Washington has made it clear to Ankara that “you guys are on your own and if you are stupid enough to send your forces into Syria and you get hit by the Russians, don’t expect NATO to come to the rescue,” Jatras said."

                    Erdogan was talking about blocking the Bosporos to prevent the Russian navy from transiting to the Black Sea. Greece stepped in and offered their warm-water ports. This shows that various States are starting to pull away from Pox Americana.
                    Kerry, in a fit of stupidity said that: if Russia blocks the terrorists (freedom fighters) in Syria, HE will partition Syria himself. He's been drinking the Netanyahoooo Koolaide


                    • #11
                      Suicidal war next week?

                      Earlier today we reported that Saudi Arabia has made a “final” decision to invade Syria.
                      Iran Holds Nothing Back: "It's A Weird Suicide Mission That Will Have A Very Dark End" | Zero Hedge
                      " but one thing is for sure: it’s do or die time. In the most literal sense of the phrase"
                      So. Saudi is losing the war in Yemen. Turkey is doing very badly fighting the Kurds. As a ?solution?, they are going to take on; Russia, China, Syria, Iran, Lebanon and Hezbollah.
                      Saudi is collapsing financially AND running out of water. Erdogan in Turkey is REALLY hated by the Turks.
                      So, the Russians agreed to a cease-fire and Riyad / Ankara want to immediately invade. Something tells me that Putin has this all figured out. Some unknown force will hit Kharg island and cut off ALL Saudi oil exports. They will collapse in 10 minutes and Russia & Iran will sell LOTS of oil.


                      • #12
                        Provoking Iran

                        The Anglo-American bankers are crashing down horrifically. Western oil production is crashing down horrifically. The solution is to destroy the low-cost oil exporters. That means Iran. Pox Americana is on the job !!!
                        "The deputy commander of Iran's Islamic Revolution Guards Corps warned on Wednesday that Tehran may close the Strait of Hormuz, if the United States continues "threatening" passages through the strategic choke point.
                        "The Article 39 of the Convention guarantees free transit passage to the ships and aircraft avoiding any threat or use of force against the countries bordering the strait, as well as obliging them to respect territorial integrity, political independence and sovereignty of the bordering states."

                        Read more:
                        "US operations in and near the Strait of Hormuz will continue despite Iran’s recent threat to close the strategic strait in response to US-led maritime drills in the region"

                        Read more:


                        • #13
                          sabre rattling

                          Putin Told Stop Conciliatory Ways With West, Prep For War

                          Obama Insanity - War Games In Russia's Back Yard

                          NATO War Games On Russian Border - Pure Madness

                          Ex NATO Dep Cmdr Predicts Nuclear War With Russia

                          Zuesse - Maniac Obama Ratchets Up To Invade Russia


                          • #14
                            Another reason not to vote for Hildebest and / or the neo-cons

                            "We, the undersigned, are Russians living and working in the USA"
                            " But we—knowing both Russian history and the current state of Russian society and the Russian military, cannot swallow these lies. We now feel that it is our duty, as Russians living in the US, to warn the American people that they are being lied to, and to tell them the truth. And the truth is simply this:

                            If there is going to be a war with Russia, then the United States
                            will most certainly be destroyed, and most of us will end up dead."
                            ClubOrlov: A Russian Warning


                            • #15
                              Russian -- American pilots are trying to avoid war

                              The Montreaux Convention limits the size. number and stay in the Black Sea for nations that don't border on the Black Sea; "Non-Black Sea state warships in the Straits must be under 15,000 tons. No more than nine non-Black Sea state warships, with a total aggregate tonnage of no more than 30,000 tons, may pass at any one time, and they are permitted to stay in the Black Sea for no longer than twenty-one days."

                              Pox American ignores this convention and stays as long as they like. Some States are catching on to the fact that Pox Americana intends to start a war to take attention off the bad economy;Rense, Bulgaria Rejects NATO Fleet In the Black Sea
                              Rense;US State Department Run By War-Drooling Insaniacs
                              One wonders when there will be a confrontation between Russian and American military. A Russian warplane Buzzed the Donald Cook in the Baltic for 1/2 hour. The Russian plane completely shut down the electronics on the Donald Cook. Apparently, the Russian Pilots can talk directly to the American pilots.
                              U.S. and Russian Jets Clash Over Syria - The Daily Beast
                              I'm sure that the American pilots are well aware that the Russians can jam everything. The insane neocons are trying to start a war any way that they can.