Stanley Meyer Explained

[Oneminde]

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h2opower.

I do understand that and i'm posting results as i go along, but it doesent mean that it is practical. I think that i need to do some research on what voltage does to electrones, this seams to be necessary.

I understand what you are saying h2opower, i just want to find result's that i can go on to develop the GP further, that's all. But you'r GP is a good place to start.

"Elongate the electrone orbit whit voltage THEN ionize them" as TRON said. That is economical!

[CPU3rother]

@h2o


Thanks, I never considered having the voltage zone between the Carb and manafold. This could be an easy mod, but as you said it would be a little dangerous until all the adjustments are correct.

Question. In the CIS system I'm assuming that there is no waste spark. Do you know if this is the case?

[h20power]

@h2o


Thanks, I never considered having the voltage zone between the Carb and manafold. This could be an easy mod, but as you said it would be a little dangerous until all the adjustments are correct.

Question. In the CIS system I'm assuming that there is no waste spark. Do you know if this is the case?

Your welcome,
It wouldn't make much of a differance in the CIS system for fuel is only injected at the time of use, any unused fuel is sent back to the tank, and it is injected inside of the intake valve of the cylander that is just about to fire right in the vacuum air stream of the valve.
But that would be a concern in a converted carberated system, you would have to get rid of the waste spark for sure. The waste spark normally fires when both the intake and exhaust valves are open so any unburnt gases gets more oxygen to complete the burn of the unspent fosile fuels before it is sent out to go through the exhaust system. Good catch


h2opower.

This is my pm to CPU3rother;

Originally Posted by h20power
If you want to do a carberator all you need to do is make a spacer plate that bolts on after the carberator with the voltage zone of inch or more in length. The carberator has to be reajusted to atomize water and not gasoline and the water should be around 95-98 C. The gas processor has to be bolted on before the carberator just after the air filter. The mixture will be explosive inside of the intake manifold, just like that of a normal car so you could get back fires just like a normal car until everything is timed right. For once the mixture of ionizied air and water mist pass through the voltage zone it will be explosive from that point on, that is what I mean when I talked about higher risk.

I am not being as safe as Stanley Meyer either for I am converting the injector right where they are, but they are aimed right at the intake valve and that gives me a less risk factor than you will have, but it is do-able. Don't worry about the charges for most of it is negetive and the whole engine is negetive so no charges lost from contact for like charges repel and all of that.

And the questions I ask of everyone, feel free to answer them at anytime

[pmazz850]

CPU3rother

For your carburated car, how about making your GP to feed the ionized air and rec. exhaust gas through the carb. Then drill holes at the end of your intake runner(right before cylinder head) for the injector to mount(for image charged water). That way your not filling your intake with the mixture. Just the cylinder head(mixing chamber) and then the combustion chamber. If I had a carburated car thats what I would try to do.

[TRON]

The reason for waste sparks!

When you have a 4 stroke engine and a sensor on the crankshaft telling the computer when to fire AND most modern engines share an ignition coil...so a spark is sent on every crank revolution while cylinder #1 is on fire stroke , Cyl #2 is on exhause. Since the coil shares two wires( the coil sits right above the spark plugs, for an 8 cyl engine there could be 4 coils firing) one signal is used for power stroke and the other Spark is wasted... but on the next 360 degree rotation the two spark plugs will fire on the single coil except this time the other spark is wasted... does that help... this is just a function of economical design....but presents a REAL DANGER when theres hydrogen gas lying around in a SHARED manifold... usually these kinds of shared spark/coil arrangements are used with injectors of atomized gasoline so there is no danger of igniting a mixture in a shared manifold (because the cyl. with the waste spark usually has its intake opening while its exhaust is just closing...the vaccuumm stroke)

This is also how many 4 stroke single cylinder lawnmower engines are designed...there are 4 strokes, one plug and instead of a spark for every 2 revolutions (like a car with a distributor) theres a hall effect sensor that fires the magneto/coil on every revolution... thus the term "waste Spark"

Finding a lawnmower engine that is 4 stroke and has a geared distributor or some electronics that bypass every other crank rotation is near impossible... they dont exist at home depot!

But the beauty of stans taper resonant plug/injector is that the electronic delivery valve controls the amount of fuel and the timing of the pulse so, it could work with one of these laenmowers or an electric generator for free electricity... just set up a garden hose with a toilet tank float as a water reserviour and run the stan meyer system on a 4 stroke 20 HP engine turning a generator to power your home for REAL CHEAP... tell the power company to %&$ OFF !

[pmazz850]

Tell the power company to "%*#& OFF"

THATS MY PLAN!!!!!!!!!!

[h20power]

That's my plan too, but in my state we can sell the energy that we put on the grid system. So insted of reciving a bill you will be getting a check, might be a very small amount like $20 or so, but that is not a bill . I wonder how long that law will hold once people start putting power to the grid system in mass? But I guess we can make some sort of a deal and give all the companies the power for free, but they have to keep up the power distribution system.

That will be a world with no more brown outs, or power failures. A world where the only way to cutt the power to a city is by going door to door or nuking the city. Nolonger will you have some hub taking out the power to 3 or more states or a power surge taking out all of your electrical stuff in the home. Now that's security if you ask me, for you can leave all the lights on in your home for it wont cost you anything, and no one will be dieing due to couldn't afford to pay for heating/cooling. That's the world I have in mind for my children, not this endless slavory system we are stuck in today. Keeping the money in your pocket means you can transform you BS water eating grass yard into a productive garden bringing in food even keeping more money in your pocket. You can start saving the water that lands on your property in the form of rain and use that for your daily needs and have the gen set purify it and make the storage containors according to Viktor Schauberger's teachings for the best water quality bar none for your household. All this money savings means you nolonger have to put in a 40 hour work week if you don't want too and you can spend that extra time with family and friends or vacationing with unlimited milage road trips, other than the up keep of the vehical, for you will nolonger be paying for black gold.

These new freedoms gives you more time to get into politic's if you want to, heck even run for office. But the one thing "they" don't want that this technology brings is it gives you more time to start thinking and watching whats going on in the world around you. Yep, becoming energy independent does all that and more.

Energy independence is ours for the taking pass it on,

h2opower.

[CPU3rother]

Now you have to ask yourselves, "just what is the voltage zone doing to the atomized water mist that flows through it?" And, "What can you do to help the water mist transform into even smaller droplets using our knowlege of the phase diagram of water?" Answering these questions gives you some insight to what Stanley Meyer and others did to aid the process.


h2opower.

Since no one has volunteered and you have asked twice I'll try to answer. When the atomized water mist moves through the voltage zone it become molecule sized charged capacitors because they take on a mirror charge thus "restricting amp leakage". You can make them into smaller droplets by letting them exit a high pressure zone into a low pressure zone, but I think the answer you’re looking for it to provide them all with like net charges at which point they will repel each other.

I'm not sure what effect it would have on the ionized air if it was configured like in stans injectors.

[CPU3rother]

For your carburated car, how about making your GP to feed the ionized air and rec. exhaust gas through the carb. Then drill holes at the end of your intake runner(right before cylinder head) for the injector to mount(for image charged water). That way your not filling your intake with the mixture. Just the cylinder head(mixing chamber) and then the combustion chamber. If I had a carburated car thats what I would try to do.

This would solve the safety problem. I was considering a single gas injector plug just for the water. Then running the EG and GP through the carb. Both would do the mixing in the cylinder. I like everyone’s ideas as they give many more options other than the three gas injector plug that would be quite a task for me to fabricate.

[h20power]

Since no one has volunteered and you have asked twice I'll try to answer. When the atomized water mist moves through the voltage zone it become molecule sized charged capacitors because they take on a mirror charge thus "restricting amp leakage". You can make them into smaller droplets by letting them exit a high pressure zone into a low pressure zone, but I think the answer you’re looking for it to provide them all with like net charges at which point they will repel each other.

I'm not sure what effect it would have on the ionized air if it was configured like in stans injectors.

Are there anymore takers to the questions? For if you understand these two questions you will understand fully how the water fuel injectors voltage zone breaks down the water molecule into hydrogen and oxygen. This is the very last part I figured out in Stanley Meyer's water for fuel technologies since I took every part one by one and the WFI's where the last on my list.

Everyone give it a try, for I am not saying he is wrong or right, I just want everyone to understand what is going on with the voltage zone and the atomized water mist and how that also relates to the phase diagram of water.

Time to put those super computers to work.

h2opower.

[pmazz850]

My answer?

1.The voltage zone is putting an image charge on the atomized water, forming micro capacitors. Also its the electrical polarization proccess. Alignment of the molecule is altered, weakening the bond.
2.I believe heating the water before hand will aid in forming smaller droplets.
As the charged water is evaporating, decreasing in surface area, the charge remains the same. Eventually The droplets short out and break apart into smaller droplets. And it repeats again, and again, until the mixture is finally ignited.
Preheating the water would help vaporize the water when injected to a low pressure zone. I guess higher pressure might help the proccess also.

[h20power]

I have two questions about the GP:

1: Why do you and why did Meyer use such thick walls on the negativ part - is there a surten reason why this is?

2: EEC; How do we/you know that only one eec is enough (placed near the outlet)? Whould it make any different to have more of them, maby in different levels. The reason for my question is that ionization last for a short perriod of time - 50% has fallen back whitin 0.7 sec so, the next question is.

3: How long does the first ionization last and then the 2´nd etc if we also consider the airflow/suction from the engine.
IF the first ionizations occur whitin the 0.00 - 0.03 sec - how fast whould that gas state have traveled befor it fals back to "stabel state"?

When we (i) contemplate the GP i also see that everything is happening very fast, accordning to the numbers the hole process needs to be complete whitin a timeframe of 0.35 sec if we whant to be close to 100%.

The air speeds at idle are typically around 32ft./sec. and the distance I have to get the primed air gases from the EEC to the combustion chamber is around 2.5 ft. So it only takes .0781 seconds for me to get the primed air gases into the combustion chamber. That gives me plenty of time to get the primed air gases into the combustion chamber with their charges intact. When faced with a problem like this just plug in the numbers for as you see you have nothing to worry about.

Now for my GP it will take .0148 seconds to pass the air gases through it at idle. Since it is being pulsed at 50k Hz that gives me 748.5 pulses from begining to the end of the GP to prime that air gases and that number is divided equally (50% duty cycle) between the electric poteintal and the photonic energy from the coherent light so the net total is 748.5. Now as the engine RPMs increase the time I get to prime the air gases decreases, but this is compensated for by raising the voltage amplitude.

This should put things in perspective,

h2opower.

[sebosfato]

Have any of you thought about the statements made about water technology?
Like:
Less heat dissipation on the ice

I was wondering if meyer wasn't putting inside the combustion chamber only water droplets at maybe 90° celsius and using just a small amount of h2 that could be instantaneously generated because of the ionized gases. I'm saying this because all we know that energy efficiency of an ice is about 25% so

if you could inject water inside the chamber that goes up to and beyond 10 to 25 bar and if you know about the ideal gas laws you know there should be at least 400 or 600 or more 1000° only because of pressure it would obviously expand during the compressional stage transforming the heat straight into kinetic energy by transforming water droplets into vapor.

You know ice engine is a heat engine and that key for efficiency is more pression more efficient it is so i you put solid water droplets at 90 ° celsius it would take just few energy to expand.

Gasoline when explode expand because 1° it heats the air inside the chamber and 2° because it makes c02 c0 h20(vapor) bounds

When you explode h202 you would have a small implosion effect if you dont consider the heat but if you have more air to heat and possibly water molecules that expand many more times than air it self you would have a much more efficient motor working on vapor much more than 25% because you are using the heat in a better way.

Try on your gasoline car you will understand what i'm talking about.
You need to make a special spark plug to inject the water droplets inside the combustion chamber.

Think about it.

[CPU3rother]

Since no one has volunteered and you have asked twice I'll try to answer. When the atomized water mist moves through the voltage zone it become molecule sized charged capacitors because they take on a mirror charge thus "restricting amp leakage". You can make them into smaller droplets by letting them exit a high pressure zone into a low pressure zone, but I think the answer you’re looking for it to provide them all with like net charges at which point they will repel each other.

I'm not sure what effect it would have on the ionized air if it was configured like in stans injectors.

Everyone give it a try, for I am not saying he is wrong or right, I just want everyone to understand what is going on with the voltage zone and the atomized water mist and how that also relates to the phase diagram of water.

Time to put those super computers to work.

h2opower.

I know I only partially answered hoping others would join in. To elaborate further these molecules sized charged capacitors quickly look for an opposite charge so they can become stable again. "If the droplet can't find a home in which to dissipate its charge in time, the electrical charge reaches a critical state and the droplet will violently blow apart again" In short provide a high enough voltage for the temperature of and pressure on the water. If the voltage is high enough and the drops can’t dissipate there charge in time the water breaks down over and over again until the H2O bond is broken.

Shrink the droplet you start with and you will lower the voltage required to do the work.

[h20power]

CPU3rother,
I just want more people to try, even if there answers are the same as yours, but I want them to give it a shot. So far only two people have taken a stab at it and with over 32k views that is not enough people giving it a shot.

For this shows me people are thinking out there, and not just waiting to copy something. The answer to the two question is the third way to break the bonds of the water molecule that is talked about in Stanley Meyer patent. The first is Dr. Faraday's aproach, the second is with the WFC, and this is the third way. Now I am only concered with the information in Stanley Meyer patents for there are even more ways to break the bonds of the water molecule than this, but I want to focuse on what is found in the patents only.

To let me know that people are thinking I like everyone to give these questions a try, and not just two people.

Thinking time everyone

h2opower.