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Regarding LED's
I have done some research on this with hydrogen simulator applet (posted in this thread somewhere) it seems that once the electron of hydrogen is broken loose from its first energy level (with a UV, 10.2 eV 240nm y) just about any visible wavelength will knock it from its second level to a third or fourth. The energy level of attraction for an electron to a proton at the first level is a few times stronger than the energy level at the second level. As the distance increases away from the proton the attractive force decreases exponentially as a ratio to the distance. So the thing to understand is that a smaller wavelength (towards UV and up to X-ray) has more energy or electron volts per photon emitted. SO it would reason to theorize that the smaller wavelengths will move more electrons from their orbit and also set more electrons free per unit of time.
When we combine this fact with the added help we get from the high voltage pulses distorting the electron orbits, we see how 645 nm red leds could have worked for mr Meyers, of course he had to use very high static charges because smaller wavelength LEDs were not available at the time.
Now, due to the advances in LED designs, we can either go for more output of ionized gas (amb. air) or lower the voltage to a safer level and get the same output he got ...and we can do it with UV LEDs and a lower voltage.
Does that make sense.
Dont get trapped into thinking there is a specific wavelength to do this, remember we have the high voltage pulses changing the equation dramatically.
on another aspect:
I Believe that Pulsing the LEDs was important because of an electrical phenomena called "Inrush Current". Im not sure if it applies to discrete devices such as LEDs, but i think with a voltage pulse, you get more energetic photons than with a steady flow of juice to the LED... maybe someone could investigate that angle...
H20POWER: heres an idea, depending on the angle of light distribution maybe putting some vanes at the intake end to swirl the air as it goes through your GP could get more production as it would mix the air and slow it down a bit...vortex...
Also instead of just going thru once, have you thought about making a loop with two or three in series and recycling the air back through another second GP after passing the Electron Extraction Grid from the first GP?
Try Stainless Wire mashed into a ball, like steel wool and put that in a 3" long Vinyl tube about 2" diameter, using standard white PVC fittings from lowes or home depot to extract those nasty free electrons from the processed air !
Just an idea
Keep us posted!
I have done some research on this with hydrogen simulator applet (posted in this thread somewhere) it seems that once the electron of hydrogen is broken loose from its first energy level (with a UV, 10.2 eV 240nm y) just about any visible wavelength will knock it from its second level to a third or fourth. The energy level of attraction for an electron to a proton at the first level is a few times stronger than the energy level at the second level. As the distance increases away from the proton the attractive force decreases exponentially as a ratio to the distance. So the thing to understand is that a smaller wavelength (towards UV and up to X-ray) has more energy or electron volts per photon emitted. SO it would reason to theorize that the smaller wavelengths will move more electrons from their orbit and also set more electrons free per unit of time.
When we combine this fact with the added help we get from the high voltage pulses distorting the electron orbits, we see how 645 nm red leds could have worked for mr Meyers, of course he had to use very high static charges because smaller wavelength LEDs were not available at the time.
Now, due to the advances in LED designs, we can either go for more output of ionized gas (amb. air) or lower the voltage to a safer level and get the same output he got ...and we can do it with UV LEDs and a lower voltage.
Does that make sense.
Dont get trapped into thinking there is a specific wavelength to do this, remember we have the high voltage pulses changing the equation dramatically.
on another aspect:
I Believe that Pulsing the LEDs was important because of an electrical phenomena called "Inrush Current". Im not sure if it applies to discrete devices such as LEDs, but i think with a voltage pulse, you get more energetic photons than with a steady flow of juice to the LED... maybe someone could investigate that angle...
H20POWER: heres an idea, depending on the angle of light distribution maybe putting some vanes at the intake end to swirl the air as it goes through your GP could get more production as it would mix the air and slow it down a bit...vortex...
Also instead of just going thru once, have you thought about making a loop with two or three in series and recycling the air back through another second GP after passing the Electron Extraction Grid from the first GP?
Try Stainless Wire mashed into a ball, like steel wool and put that in a 3" long Vinyl tube about 2" diameter, using standard white PVC fittings from lowes or home depot to extract those nasty free electrons from the processed air !
Just an idea
Keep us posted!
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