Stanley Meyer Explained

[boguslaw]

"The preceding experiment is only one of many equally interesting
experiments which may be performed by the use of only one wire with
alternate currents of high potential and frequency. We may connect an
insulated line to a source of such currents, we may pass an
inappreciable current over the line, and on any point of the same we are
able to obtain a heavy current, capable of fusing a thick copper wire. Or
we may, by the help of some artifice, decompose a solution in any
electrolytic cell by connecting only one pole of the cell to the line or
source of energy. Or we may, by attaching to the line, or only bringing
into its vicinity, light up an incandescent lamp, an exhausted tube, or a
phosphorescent bulb."

Nikola Tesla

[Guest]

I will ask you just one more time, MAKE YOUR OWN THREAD!

Why should I start another thread when there have been such confusing ideas about the ion engine system(you never explain why the parts are there and how they are logically connected before ignition) from you which mislead all experimenters in the wrong direction?

I feel pity for all those people who never hear the truth anywhere about the engine. So many years and never the truth or any logics, just a big mess of incorrect information. It must end so people start working in the right way.

You got the full solution of the ion engine system in a very short logical explanation that a child understands. I include all the important parts of the Meyer system in my explanation(VIC, EEC, Gas processor, Electrostatic filter, spray pattern, water spark injector) which is very different from all "experts" that wasted 10 years or more trying to explain the WFC document without any success. Meyer mislead people but now the info is out!

Credit yourself by all means repeating the same things about theoretical oxygen ion energy 10 times. It will not help the builder understand the engine system. Priming oxygen is important and the energy level is interesting but that info is official and easily absorbed by anyone.

You received the whole ion engine system functionality after years and years of fruitless efforts and I would appreciate a thank you. Help yourself!

[carbideTip]

Working model?

[Guest]

[h20power]

You views are not needed

Why should I start another thread when there have been such confusing ideas about the ion engine system(you never explain why the parts are there and how they are logically connected before ignition) from you which mislead all experimenters in the wrong direction?

I feel pity for all those people who never hear the truth anywhere about the engine. So many years and never the truth or any logics, just a big mess of incorrect information. It must end so people start working in the right way.

You got the full solution of the ion engine system in a very short logical explanation that a child understands. I include all the important parts of the Meyer system in my explanation(VIC, EEC, Gas processor, Electrostatic filter, spray pattern, water spark injector) which is very different from all "experts" that wasted 10 years or more trying to explain the WFC document without any success. Meyer mislead people but now the info is out!

Credit yourself by all means repeating the same things about theoretical oxygen ion energy 10 times. It will not help the builder understand the engine system. Priming oxygen is important and the energy level is interesting but that info is official and easily absorbed by anyone.

You received the whole ion engine system functionality after years and years of fruitless efforts and I would appreciate a thank you. Help yourself!

Listen Dankie or whomever you are,
Your ideas of how it works and my ideas of how it works are vastly different to the point where they clash. You want Stanley Meyer's older version, I am working with his last version or end product. The reason why the science and math are important is it shows Stanley Meyer did obey the 1st and 2nd laws of thermodynamics. I would like you to make a competing thread so you can tell your version of how you think Stanley Meyer's technology works without steping on my thread. In his last version there is no eletrostatic filter or water fuel capacitor, nor is there a quenching circuit in your version you would need a quenching circuit. The technology evolved and followed the laws of economics and the KISS method, as a result of understanding those parts of the technology got taken out.

So, No Thanks to your views of how Stanley Meyer's technology works!

h2opower.

[Guest]

[Guest]

[h20power]

Two choices

Hello Everyone,

Now it is clear to see there are two choices here. 1 Listen to someone that has not shown anyone any science or math. 2 Listen to someone that has shown that the Gas Processor is the true source of energy driving the system, plus much more.

Things I have shown I pulled from the patent and also put that information up here so everyone can read it. The reason Stanley Meyer put all three(water mist, ionized air, and recirculated exhuast gases) in one injector was too enable him to retrofit any car with the technology by bypassing the whole fuel system and computerization that each car came with. But as we all know that is not the only way to do it, but from a buisness stand point it is the best way.

But in the end the choice of how to proceed from here is fully up to you. Build the Gas Processor and electron extraction circuit that goes along with it or keep tinkering with the water fuel capacitor which hasn't paned out for close to 11 years now. Take the red pill and you will see how far the story goes or take the blue pill and wake up beliving what ever you want to belive the choice is yours.


h2opower.

[h20power]

Another video of Stanley Meyer talking about the Gas Processor. YouTube - Stanley A Myers New Energy Colorado 1993 -9

Energy independence from dream to reality,


h2opower.

[Guest]

[chub]

puzzle pieces.

The ionization energies is a two way street, what goes up must come down, so it takes the same amount of energy to raise the energy levels as you get from the energy levels on their way down. But what is different in what Stanley Meyer did was to make a light intermix chamber in combination with an ionization chamber. If you think about it it is the same conditions found on the top of the lightning clouds and the earth's ionosphere. There it forms a capacitor too that light is able to mix with the atoms, just like the Gas Processor. So now light energy has been added to the equation, but Stanley Meyer didn't really give us much help here . Things we have to know are what wavelengths to use for who knows which ones will work best. I suggest focusing in on oxygen's wavelengths, but there are more than 73 to choose from everyone is going to have to just give some a try.h2opower.

Thanks for your insight, however I'm still a bit puzzled on a few things. I must admit I'm a total noob and in the process of going through solid state chemistry books to understand and see if I can pick up the experimental hobby.

So here goes: you said it takes the same amount of energy to get the Oxygen to the 4th level energy state, as what is released from the Oxygen? You determined that by reading or listening to Stanley's videos stating that it misses 4 electrons (that is what I heard in the videos). am I on the rite track here so far? Now should you not then include the energy used to get the oxygen to the 4th energy level state in your maths? If you did that wouldn't the net result become negative again? I feel like I'm missing something here.

So the point of the gas processor was to remove the electrons from oxygen by using a specific visible light spectrum/frequency for each energy level of Oxygen. So by removing the electron, the electron could freely move back to another Oxygen or... extract the electrons in a circuit (positively charged/ionized)? Are those electrons then passed on to the water to add more electrons, thus making them ionized (negatively charged)? If the water molecules are ionized, the water molecules will push each other away (water vapour) and at the same time be attracted to the Oxygen in the 4th level?

So the part where the water molecules pushes each other away and slams into the higher energy level Oxygen. All happens in the cylinder? But they are prepared in the gas processor? Is that what Stanley mean by water fracturing? So would it then be correct to say that the water fracturing part releases not more energy, but converts energy from one form to another that expands the volume/temperature? Thus not breaking the laws of conservation of energy? If you care to quantify this please do so.

Now another question, what type of materials should we work with.

From Chemistry Book: Page 268

The Electromagnetic Spectrum:
As summarized in Table 6-1, the electromagnetic spectrum contains many spectral regions. Photons from each region interact with matter in particular ways. The energies of photons in the visible and UV regions of the spectrum match the possible energy changes for many atomic and molecular electrons. For example, retinal, a molecular pigment in the eye, absorbs a photon of visible light in the first step of the process that allows us to see. This "match" between photon energies and electron energies occurs on in the visible and UV regions.

Photons whose energies fall in other regions of the electromagnetic spectrum also interact with matter, but they have either too much or too little energy to move electrons into excited states. Photons in the x-ray and gamma-ray regions have energies high enough to generate ions by completely removing electrons from atoms and molecules. These ions are highly reactive and can cause serious damage to the material that absorbs the photons. However, under closely controlled conditions, x rays are used in medical imaging, and gamma rays are used to treat cancer.

Do we only need visible light? Could you supply some more information on what you had in mind. Or some quote to how to achieve energy level changes on Oxygen specifically?

[h20power]

YouTube - Lec 10 | MIT 6.013 Electromagnetics and Applications, Fall 2 shows proof of that concept very well.

As for the photons that effect oxygen here are 73 wavelenghts that have an effect on oxygen: http://astro.u-strasbg.fr/~koppen/discharge/oxygen.txt But there are more for atomic oxygen is 777.19 nm, but as I said before which one of these or combination of these are most effective will have to be found through expirementation.

I approach this technology from a point of understanding, and making a definition of terms of Stanley Meyer's words is very much needed. I hope this explains a lot and/or helps some.


h2opower.

[h20power]

It only took me 31 months to solve this, sorry but I was off fighting in the war on terror before that sevring my country. Yes, please start a new thread for I am tired of you stepping on mine.

Good bye Gauss, have fun in your new thread, and thanks for leaving this one.


h2opower.

[Guest]

Well done H2O, congrats!

[OUstupid]

H2OPOWER , you are confused

Here is a picture of the real VIC , made by Meyers himself ...

good day



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