Stanley Meyer Explained

[h20power]

How N2O is made:

From here: Nitrous oxide - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Manufacture

So if what was said is true then there is a whole new way to make N2O and nobel prize should be given right away. Science shows that the two atoms don't come together like that, what will be formed first is NO at around 750-950 degrees C then that can break down into N2O. But if you get the temps up the high it will be 250 C past hydrogens flash point and any hydrogen in the system will pop off no waiting for any controled spark from any source.

My main point is Nitrogen and Oxygen don't seem to come together in this fassion but Hydrogen and Oxygen does. But if it does then come together like this a full peir review paper should be made of the reaction so other scientist can duplicate the reaction. On one hand you have a hydrogen + oxygen reaction and the other you have nitrogen + oxygen reaction and as far as I can tell the later can't combine like that. The hydrogen reaction one of the oxygen atoms has been striped of electrons and is highly reactive far more so than the O2 floating around in the system.

In an internal combustion engine you don't want any hot spots when hydrogen is present for anything over 500 degrees C will make hydrogen flash at the point of the hot spot. If your running a diesel then you need to directly inject the hydrogen into the combustion chamber and the rapid compression will reach hydrogens flash point during compression, but it has to also be kept down from hydrogens flash point. If any spot in the intake system reaches hydrogens flashpoint it will set off the reaction so great care must be made to keep the intake system below hydrogens flash point.



h2opower.

[tutanka]

Good enough for your own Thread.
Or are you scared about doing all the Maths and sproading to much Infos about it? Instead bringing confusion in here.
I am still not really at the Hho Stuff, but i am still waiting for the Results from h2Opower,
till he did replicate it close as it is possible, i still know few more Peoples,
what try to allready build it, but dont have the necessary Infos.
And all what i can read from you and few others is only messing this Thread here.

When your method is even only a little different from Stanley Meyer,
then it doesnt belong into this Thread here, and need a own Thread.

HI,
I repeat me..I don't want start confusion here.. I want only to put your attention on right reactions inside on GP because in ambient air sn't present only oxygen, in this way other molecules like Nitrogen partecipate actively to process of transformation present on Gas Processor. Thanks

[Joit]

HI,
I repeat me..I don't want start confusion here.. I want only to put your attention on right reactions inside on GP because in ambient air sn't present only oxygen, in this way other molecules like Nitrogen partecipate actively to process of transformation present on Gas Processor. Thanks

You only want ? Right Reactions inside the GP ?
See, h2opower does it, like Stan Meyer did, and not, like You want.
So, No Thanks. Sir

[tutanka]

How N2O is made:

My main point is Nitrogen and Oxygen don't seem to come together in this fassion but Hydrogen and Oxygen does. But if it does then come together like this a full peir review paper should be made of the reaction so other scientist can duplicate the reaction. On one hand you have a hydrogen + oxygen reaction and the other you have nitrogen + oxygen reaction and as far as I can tell the later can't combine like that. The hydrogen reaction one of the oxygen atoms has been striped of electrons and is highly reactive far more so than the O2 floating around in the system.


h2opower.

On ambient air are present N2 and O2, not atomic oxygen, in this way when GP run O2 is transformed in O+O but this atoms are very reactive and they recombined with O2 molecule creating O3. For this my hypothesis is that Meyer with Gas Processor it wanted generate from ambient air N2O and also O3, higly reactive molecule of oxygen. If you use HV and laser light inside GP you generate O3 but also NO, NO2 and as you know these two gas are very toxic for life. N2O can be produced also with microwaves and laser light focalization, with this method any NO,NO2 are produced, if I do not mistake all these components, EM and laser, are presents on GP.

[Joit]

On ambient air are present N2 and O2, not atomic oxygen, in this way when GP run O2 is transformed in O+O but this atoms are very reactive and they recombined with O2 molecule creating O3. For this my hypothesis is that Meyer with Gas Processor it wanted generate from ambient air N2O and also O3, higly reactive molecule of oxygen. If you use HV and laser light inside GP you generate O3 but also NO, NO2 and as you know these two gas are very toxic for life. N2O can be produced also with microwaves and laser light focalization, with this method any NO,NO2 are produced, if I do not mistake all these components, EM and laser, are presents on GP.

Why dont you just make a new Thread, Stanley Meyer explained - I know it better. ??
And dont forget to put all the Math in then.

[tutanka]

You only want ? Right Reactions inside the GP ?
See, h2opower does it, like Stan Meyer did, and not, like You want.
So, No Thanks. Sir

The right reactions as you call don't mentioned Nitrogen that I remember to you is present on 78% on earth. You live on Earth on Mars? In this way you accept all that h2opower written without think if is right? I don't live on Mars but on Earth, in this way first to accept any new idea I think if can be right or not.

[Joit]

The right reactions as you call don't mentioned Nitrogen that I remember to you is present on 78% on earth. You live on Earth on Mars? In this way you accept all that h2opower written without think if is right? I don't live on Mars but on Earth, in this way first to accept any new idea I think if can be right or not.

I do fully trust h2opower in what he do, he do it in a carefully Way.
But all i can see from you is to disrupt him, that he can finish his Work,
which is, to rebuild Stan Meyers Work, and not a lot of couple Ideas,
just because someone like you think, something need to improved, what worked once.
It is for sure better, you do your own work, as to disrupt others all the Time
with your 'good Ideas' to improve something, what do not need improvements.
The usual Way, in case, you dont know is, first build it proper, and then look for Improvements.

Edit And dont ask me, where i do live, sometimes i think i live at the ...Backside from the Earth,
because i meet so much ...... Backside Persons...

[sebosfato]

Guys i would recommend you to read my thread instead of discuss if, who, or to think someone here is giving you here any usable information on how to built a working prototype the idea o get it to it's 4th stage is what meyer talked about and showed in his drawings h20 can also say that he discovered it and showed his calculations but actually i have posted this on over unity prior to the existence of this thread (i discovered it investigating meyer drawings with the smile electrons and when i saw in wikipedia the ionization potential of oxygen i made many calculations and found that, big deal) but i don't care is not a problem for me as i didn't invented this and as h2O arrived to it by himself too i told tutanka this in a phone call. What tutanka is saying is not bull**** anyway he is researching this and he has access to many facilities and this is very good. You should not fight guys, or say ohh my idea or him idea is better is all about how to get it to its 4th stage without using kwatts of power to do this or do it economic. I found the way it works, using resonance as meyer said but didn't showed and didn't explained. I'm going to help you understand what resonance really is and how it works for true in a practical circuit if you want. As i have tried to show my ideas here and got the request to create my own thread i did it but it will work the way i want it to work as I spent too many time on studying this and much money too and don't have more time to lose, i ask for contributions to my project you will see on my thread. Ask me the right questions we have no time to lose.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/4617-stanley-meyer-true.html:beamup:

Internet Archive: Free Download: The chemistry and manufacture of hydrogen

[boguslaw]

Right.We all need first a clear procedure to replicate WFC results.
How about a little small Meyer cell powered by 9V battery clearly showing highly enlarged gas output ?

That would be a starting point IMHO
Meyer transformer bobbins look great but we need simplicity first!

Let's look how Tariel Kapanadze proved OU - he run his circuit in close loop starting from 9V battery.Nothing can beat it..

In the end it's all Tesla knowledge

[h20power]

I think Arthur C Clark put this best when he said we are going through the four stages of any revolutionary ideas:
1. It's non sense don't waste my time.
2. It's interesting but not important.
3. I always said it was a good idea.
4. I thought of it first.
Free Energy

The mathmatical model I am following shows if I build it and follow all the rules it will work. To say you thought of this before me and yet was totally selfish and kept it all to yourself is a crime against humanity. I can run countless searches and come up totally empty looking for a mier mention of Stanley Meyer's Gas Processor let along anyone attempting to build the device. So to say you knew it before me only has a few answers as to what kind of person you are. One, selfish and perhaps greedy, or two, a liar. What every shoe fits wear it well.

I can see the bigger picture, have seen it just about all of my life. When I found where the true power was comeing from the only thing that held me back from putting it on the net was both of my computers went out on me at the same time. As soon as I got one back working again I posted what I found out to the best of my understanding of it. But I new then I had to bring science into the game or it was all in vein. So, I sat down and did the math and posted that too. Unlike many I have always dreamed of using water as a fuel source since a young boy, I ran electrolysis expirements when I was only 5-6 years old. I have always been a dreamer, growing up very poor seems to have that effect on people.

The only way anyone is going to see this technology is for it to be given away. I for one can see this but sadly many around me can not. So in this thread I went over just about every part of Stanley Meyer's water for fuel technology as best as I can understand it. I didn't ask for anything except to be remembered. I guess that's a part of my Marine corps training teaching us to have pride in our stride. I also kept everything as close as posible to the scientific method of doing things so that others could follow if they wanted too. Even took the time to write a summary of Stanley Meyer's work and shared it freely with everyone. I wonder though if in doing all of this this falls under the rule something given has no value? But I didnt' give everything away but set some rules and made and engineering/builders challange of sorts.

All in all I am doing all of this for it is the right thing to do for humanity and to make the world a better place for my children. The mathmatical theory I posted is science and shows energy content that coensides with Stanley Meyer's patents talking about the 4th energy level or more. The only thing I am guilty of is sharing and wanting to be remembered for doing so just incase I didn't make it to the finish line with everyone. The simple act of sharing is very hard for a lot of people to do these days, always wanting something for their work and time spent on the various projects they would be doing. I ask for nothing, and belive me I am very poor, but I know this technology can free me from the form of enslavement I find myself in today. Many a time has went by if I didn't catch something to eat the family goes hungry for that day. I have had to live in my car, been to places to get something to eat. I know what it means to have no place to call home.

Maybe that is why I want the poorest of the poor to have this, for this technology means true freedom and can improove the lives of many around the world. But that too has always been my dream a dream of making a differance in this world. My mother would always say that to me when I was growing up, that I was going to do something to change the world. Somehow she knew just by looking at me when I was just a baby. All I know is I have a sort-of drive in me to do the right thing, and right now that drive is to finish up my work on the water for fuel technology. But as life always is time and money are always short, so I have patients and wait out the storms of life. In any event I feel I have given all of you reading my little thread the same opportunities I have in getting this water for fuel technology up and running so you to can be free of the energy enslavement we all find ourselves in today. I still have much work that needs to be done in fabucating parts and testing, but I have faith I will get to the end and be successful. Same faith I have in all of you with your work for each an everyone of you can do this too.


h2opower.

[sebosfato]

I think Arthur C Clark put this best when he said we are going through the four stages of any revolutionary ideas:
1. It's non sense don't waste my time.
2. It's interesting but not important.
3. I always said it was a good idea.
4. I thought of it first.
Free Energy

The mathmatical model I am following shows if I build it and follow all the rules it will work. To say you thought of this before me and yet was totally selfish and kept it all to yourself is a crime against humanity. I can run countless searches and come up totally empty looking for a mier mention of Stanley Meyer's Gas Processor let along anyone attempting to build the device. So to say you knew it before me only has a few answers as to what kind of person you are. One, selfish and perhaps greedy, or two, a liar. What every shoe fits wear it well.



h2opower.

You are calling me a lier and or selfish i don't accept that, I'm sorry if you felt attacked but if you google it you will find that I talked about this on over unite (I said if you extract 4 electrons per atom of oxygen from 1 liter of water you got x amps or something like that and that the resulting gas would be highly more reactive) as soon as I knew it because I wanted to ask if anyone have found this too. I didn't know yet how to make it economically because as with electrolysis you need maNY kWh of power to do that. Anyway H2o I'm not here to challenge you is not even necessary what I said about the resonance now is proved. And have to do with meyer technology 100% he did said to you he was using 40kv at 1 ma and didn't said he had 20 to 40 amps 20 to 40kv recirculating on the other side of the circuit or he was going to give you all is technology for free if you find the patents of stephen horvath you can understand why resonance is used clearly. You are not guilt to don't say this to people if you just didn't know it as I didn't know too how to do it few months ago. Don't take it personal is not much scientific.
Tesla primary tank circuit thats what its all about.
see you on my thread don't worry be happy

[tutanka]

I think Arthur C Clark put this best when he said we are going through the four stages of any revolutionary ideas:
1. It's non sense don't waste my time.
2. It's interesting but not important.
3. I always said it was a good idea.
4. I thought of it first.
Free Energy

The mathmatical model I am following shows if I build it and follow all the rules it will work. To say you thought of this before me and yet was totally selfish and kept it all to yourself is a crime against humanity. I can run countless searches and come up totally empty looking for a mier mention of Stanley Meyer's Gas Processor let along anyone attempting to build the device. So to say you knew it before me only has a few answers as to what kind of person you are. One, selfish and perhaps greedy, or two, a liar. What every shoe fits wear it well.

I can see the bigger picture, have seen it just about all of my life. When I found where the true power was comeing from the only thing that held me back from putting it on the net was both of my computers went out on me at the same time. As soon as I got one back working again I posted what I found out to the best of my understanding of it. But I new then I had to bring science into the game or it was all in vein. So, I sat down and did the math and posted that too. Unlike many I have always dreamed of using water as a fuel source since a young boy, I ran electrolysis expirements when I was only 5-6 years old. I have always been a dreamer, growing up very poor seems to have that effect on people.

The only way anyone is going to see this technology is for it to be given away. I for one can see this but sadly many around me can not. So in this thread I went over just about every part of Stanley Meyer's water for fuel technology as best as I can understand it. I didn't ask for anything except to be remembered. I guess that's a part of my Marine corps training teaching us to have pride in our stride. I also kept everything as close as posible to the scientific method of doing things so that others could follow if they wanted too. Even took the time to write a summary of Stanley Meyer's work and shared it freely with everyone. I wonder though if in doing all of this this falls under the rule something given has no value? But I didnt' give everything away but set some rules and made and engineering/builders challange of sorts.

All in all I am doing all of this for it is the right thing to do for humanity and to make the world a better place for my children. The mathmatical theory I posted is science and shows energy content that coensides with Stanley Meyer's patents talking about the 4th energy level or more. The only thing I am guilty of is sharing and wanting to be remembered for doing so just incase I didn't make it to the finish line with everyone. The simple act of sharing is very hard for a lot of people to do these days, always wanting something for their work and time spent on the various projects they would be doing. I ask for nothing, and belive me I am very poor, but I know this technology can free me from the form of enslavement I find myself in today. Many a time has went by if I didn't catch something to eat the family goes hungry for that day. I have had to live in my car, been to places to get something to eat. I know what it means to have no place to call home.

Maybe that is why I want the poorest of the poor to have this, for this technology means true freedom and can improove the lives of many around the world. But that too has always been my dream a dream of making a differance in this world. My mother would always say that to me when I was growing up, that I was going to do something to change the world. Somehow she knew just by looking at me when I was just a baby. All I know is I have a sort-of drive in me to do the right thing, and right now that drive is to finish up my work on the water for fuel technology. But as life always is time and money are always short, so I have patients and wait out the storms of life. In any event I feel I have given all of you reading my little thread the same opportunities I have in getting this water for fuel technology up and running so you to can be free of the energy enslavement we all find ourselves in today. I still have much work that needs to be done in fabucating parts and testing, but I have faith I will get to the end and be successful. Same faith I have in all of you with your work for each an everyone of you can do this too.


h2opower.

From this reply is clear that ..if your Meyer system work is only thanks to an god miracle. Is clear that you accept all without think if can be true or not. I remember you that we live on the Earth and GP isn't magic tube. For it, if you are an right man, you have to accept my concept on N2 and O2 and think about that.

[tutanka]

I do fully trust h2opower in what he do, he do it in a carefully Way.
But all i can see from you is to disrupt him, that he can finish his Work,
which is, to rebuild Stan Meyers Work, and not a lot of couple Ideas,
just because someone like you think, something need to improved, what worked once.
It is for sure better, you do your own work, as to disrupt others all the Time
with your 'good Ideas' to improve something, what do not need improvements.
The usual Way, in case, you dont know is, first build it proper, and then look for Improvements.

Edit And dont ask me, where i do live, sometimes i think i live at the ...Backside from the Earth,
because i meet so much ...... Backside Persons...

NO THE RIGHT WAY IS THAT FIRST TO BUILD ANYTHING, MUST BE ANALIZED BETTER ON PAPER IF CONCEPT CAN WORK. I REMEMBER YOU THAT THIS IS AN FREE FORUM AND ON IT ARE PRESENT SOME MINDS AND YOU MUST ACCEPT AND REFLECT ON OTHER CONCEPTS. IF YOU DON'T WANT NO ANSWER YOU DON'T HAVE TO WRITE HERE!

[Joit]

Tutanka you wanna talk in Caps with me?

Thats a Thing what wakes me up actually.

You think it need be better analyzed? You see, h2opower does it allready,
but maybe you have just a lack of Understanding to see that.

That has nothing to do with a Free Forum, as you do your claim, it is, or
other Ideas MUST be accepted, what even sounds absolut ridicoulus.
Its only a Argument, where you poorly do hide behind, but its not a Point to make Progress.
I tell you what you MUST. NOT Listen to such smart Persons like you claim that you are, because all you do is to disturb.

h2opower did start the Thread, that HE explain it,
Therefor is for you NO Reason for you, to think, you explain it at YOUR WAY or trow YOUR GOOD IDEAS in,
what obvious has not really something to do with Stan Meyers.
And when he can do that, without Guys like you and her "Good Ideas"
what want to disturb and debunk any Post what he or anyone does,
THEN it is a Free Forum. Do you understand this?

[h20power]

Re-look at the Summary

by h2opower

The Gas Processor

Non-sequential ionization

When the fact that the electric field of light is an alternating electric field is combined with tunnel ionization, the phenomenon of non-sequential ionization emerges. An electron that tunnels out from an atom or molecule may be sent right back in by the alternating field, at which point it can either recombine with the atom or molecule and release any excess energy, or it also has the chance to further ionize the atom or molecule through high energy collisions. This additional ionization is referred to as non-sequential ionization for two reasons: one, there is no order to how the second electron is removed, and two, an atom or molecule with a +2 charge can be created straight from an atom or molecule with a neutral charge, so the integer charges are not sequential. Non-sequential ionization is often studied at lower laser-field intensities, since most ionization events are sequential when the ionization rate is high.

Now let us look at what is said in the patent:

Thermal Explosive Energy

water mist, ionized gases, noncombustible gas, and spark or heat ignition.}

The water fuel injectors

The water fuel injectors create micro-mini capacitors out of water by passing the atomized water mist through a high voltage zone. After careful study of the water fuel injector I found out that the inside electrode is surrounded by a column of air at 125 psi so the water mist never comes into direct contact with the center electrode.

How you get voltage to perform work is by physically changing the area, thus changing the charge surface density. This is very important information to know when it comes to understanding how Stanley Meyer got the some of the water mist to break down into hydrogen and oxygen. As the highly charged water mist mixes with the unstable oxygen atoms and recirculated exhaust gases it evaporates, thus changing the surface area allowing voltage to perform work on the water molecule. In a way he set a condition that caused the water molecules to short circuit. This is made possible due to the properties of water being that water is a dielectric liquid. Remember the relaxation time for water is є/σ< 10-6 seconds and for air є/σ> 10 seconds giving the water plenty of time to evaporate while still retaining its induced image charges from the injectors high voltage zone. The water mist is given a negative charge as a result.

Steam Resonator

The Steam Resonators job is to heat the water up to around 90 degrees C or more so that when the water is injected into the engine in vacuum conditions it immediately turns into vapor(not steam) thus aiding the water to evaporate faster, allowing voltage to perform work on the water molecules more readily. The Steam Resonators works much the same as a microwave oven by making the water molecules dipoles switch back and forth causing inter molecular friction.