Stanley Meyer Explained

[h20power]

Ions

Ions
If an atom has more or less electrons than protons, that atom acquires an electrical charge. A shortage of electrons results in a positive charge; an excess of electrons gives a negative charge. The element's identity remains the same, no matter how great the excess or shortage of electrons. In the extreme case, all the electrons might be removed from an atom, leaving only the nucleus. However, it would still represent the same element as it would if it has all its electrons. A charged atom is called an ion. When a substance contains many ions, the material is said to be ionized.

A good example of an ionized substance is the atmosphere of the earth at high altitudes. The ultraviolet radiation from the sun, as well as high-speed subatomic particles from space, result in the gases' atoms being stripped of electrons. The ionized gases tend to be found in layers at certain altitudes. These layers are responsible for long-distance radio communications at some frequencies.

Ionized materials generally conduct electricity well, even if the substance is normally not a good conductor. Ionized air makes it possible for a lighting stroke to take place, for example. The ionization, caused by a powerful electric field, occurs along a jagged, narrow channel. After the lightning flash, the nuclei of the atom quickly attract stray electrons back, and the air becomes electrically neutral again.

An element might be both an ion and an isotope different from the usual isotope. For example, an atom of carbon might have eight neutrons rather than the usual six, thus being the isotope C14, and it might have been stripped of an electron, giving it a positive unit electric charge and making it an ion. Taken from: Teach Yourself Electricity and ... - Google Book Search

I stand corrected in some of my thinking, thanks Gauss I was wrong about the charge for the water mist has a negetive charge and the unstable oxygen atoms have a positive charge. Thanks for making me go back to the books .

In this we can see what Stanley Meyer did, after the gas processor has stripped the oxygen atoms of electrons the screen mesh grid of the electron extraction circuit consumes the stray electrons thus not allowing the oxygen atoms to restabilize. The coherent light sources are chosen to hit at oxygens wavelengths, therefore targeting the oxygen atoms in the incoming air supply.

The injectors work the same way a Taylor cone works for the most part. They give the water a negative charge by passing it through a positive voltage potential zone, and that charge creates an ever expanding plume of ever decreasing size water droplets that repel each other. This aids in mixing for the water molecules will not combine to form larger droplets but break up into smaller ones insted.

Now to go over the science part once again. Looking at the reactions to break and form the water molecule:
4 H-O 459 kJ/mol bonds are broken taking 1836 kJ/mol to do so.
2 H-H 436 kJ/mol bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 498 kJ/mol are formed yeilding 1370 kJ/mol.
This is why all scientist say it takes more energy to break the bonds of water than you get from combining them, for the net sum of the reaction is negative, -466 kJ/mol.
With the unstable oxgyen atoms stripped to the four energy level we get:
2 H-H bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 7469.2 kJ/mol are formed yeilding 8341.2 kJ/mol. The net sum of the reaction now is 8341.2-1836 = +6505.2 kJ/mol. The unstable oxygen atoms have more than enough energy to break the water molecules down, and the resulting reactions net sum is positive. In the most basic sense the water molecule was placed in an atmosphere that is capable of water combustion through this controled modified envirnment that is being created by the Gas Processor and Electron Extraction Circuit.

Again if I made any mistakes feel free to point them out, but please do so in the scientific way. I hope this helps in your understanding Guass, for even when I do make errors it doesn't change the way the Gas Processor and Electron Extraction Circuit work to make it possible to have water as a fantastic new fuel source.


h2opower.

[h20power]

I give up on you Gauss

Injectors give the water molecule a positive charge, electron extraction circuit consumed most of the stripped electrons from the oxygen atoms. These highly unstable oxygen atoms that are negative in charge see the neutral oxygen atoms holding on to the hydrogen atoms, given a spark ignition, take the hydrogen atoms away from the neutral oxygen atoms that have been made more willing to give up the hydrogen atoms due too the positive charge placed on the water molecule. In Stanley Meyer's own words, 'they(the unstable oxygen atoms) over compensate giving off far more energy than the normal hydrogen/oxygen reaction is capable of giving.' That is what the math is showing you, but you resist to see it, and as of yet I don't know why. All I can hope is everyone else that reads this, understands it.

Peace
h2opower.

You are right but tend to forget that an ION engine needs two parts, one negative ion and one positive ion. How else do you think there will be an explosive reaction?

Those energy levels you mention assume you have something to mate the ion with.

Where do you plan to pick your electrons from to mate the O4+ with?

That is where the HHO comes in. And he used water mist to make some HHO and not much but some since it has a huge negative charge and will realize the theoretic energy resisiding in O4+.

Details but important. Anyway the project of finishing all parts is huge and not simple as many tend to believe. But can be done for one determined soul!

[h20power]

Gauss all that is needed is atomized water mist that has been given a positive charge, ionized oxygen atoms, and recirculated exhuast gases. The WFC is not needed. The job of Stanley Meyer's injectors was to give the water mist a positive charge, and to bypass any vehical's fuel system. The steam resonators job is to keep the water at near boiling point aproximently 90 degrees same as in the video show here: water manipulation motor - Google Video

The VIC is just a transformer there is no magic in it, it is just a type of transformer that is not commonly built it relies on capacitive reactance too develope its high voltage same as in some of the police zap guns. The blocking diodes job is to double the voltage in the capacitors voltage zones since the Gas Processor is also a capacitor. The electron extraction ciruict provides a postive mesh screen positioned just after the gas processors voltage zone and consumes the freshly stripped electrons before they can form ozone, remember like charges repel and unlike charges attract. The mesh screen is positive and the electrons are negetive, the intake systems gas speeds take care of the rest.

It is the oxygen that is breaking down the water molecule. We all know that it takes 1836kJ/mol to break the bonds of the water molecule, right? The oxygen has been stripped of electrons, and in Stanley Meyer's case, to it's fourth ionization level that has an energy content of 7469.2 kJ/mol. This is far more energy needed to break the bonds of the water molecule. Everyone keeps looking for some form of magic when there is none.

Since Meyer says he used the 4th energy level or lower lets look at that reaction.
The new reaction to form the water molecule at the 4th energy level:
2 H-H bonds 872 kJ/mol and 1 O=O bond 7469.2 kJ/mol are formed yeilding 8341.2 kJ/mol. The net sum of the reaction now is 8341.2-1836 = +6505.2 kJ/mol.
Can you see the reaction now? In the reaction just shown the energy to break the bonds of the water molecule has been subtracted(1836kJ/mol) from the energy content of the ionized oxygen atoms. These are energy content calculations, and it is good to note that gasoline has an energy content of 4864kJ/mol. This is how Stanley Meyer was able to run an 1.6L engine with an hho production rate of only 7L/min.. The energy content is greater than that of gasoline, more than 1.3 times greater.

The injectors are not what they appear to be, they are giving the water mist a positive charge and mixing that water mist with ionized air gases and recirculate exhaust gases, then spark ignited. Again no magic here just a simple ionic reaction taking place. I am not going to let someone come in here and give information that will not work. I put science and math to the works of Stanley Meyer, showed where the energy was really coming from, and it is something everyone can sink their teeth into. It is not a magic show it is something real.

I just hope and pray that everyone can see what has been done here. Energy independence is now ours for the taking


h2opower.

[boguslaw]

I has nothing to do with electronic!

[rdmwc]

has anyone noticed that the diagrams of his technology never really changed in the showing of the wfc and the injector? with this said, when i was messing with the wfc it occured to me that maybe i could have one individual tube set for each cylinder and somehow have it connected to each cylinder. with that thought running in my head i went back to trying to find more info on the stan meyer technology. in my thinking each injector IS ITS OWN WFC. each injector is a tube set. so when h20power says that the wfc is not needed, it isnt! because the injector once built proplerly, acts as its own wfc. now back to my first comment. notice the diagram shows the VIC is connected to the injector same as its connected to the wfc.
Gauss: i agree the VIC is going to be the most challenging piece to produce for many of us! and i believe it too is partially the key to success with this technology. for without the highvoltage, low current highfrequency pulses, the gas processor wont be nearly as effective. now, i can build about anything that this requires, but im lacking in the electronics aspect. i would love to learn, but that takes time, and will come with time. but is there anyone here that could help with the re-production of the VIC?

[h20power]

Energy independence for humanity.

In this post I have already shown that the key to Stanley Meyer technology is the Gas Processor and the electron extraction circuit. No need to wait for the Orion Project, for all the undstanding of where the energy is really coming from has already been explained.

The big question of, "How Stanley Meyer ran a 1.6L engine with an hho production rate of only 7L/min.?" has been answered. It has been posted here for all to have and become energy independent for energy independence is the right of all that live on this planet not for just those that can aford it.


h2opower.

[Sharyn]

Stan Meyer Equipment

The answer may lie in the fact The Orion Project have not actually got the equipment yet, Aromaz.

In the last week's program (Feb 13th) on World Puja Dr Steven Greer said that they were almost ready to get the Stan Meyer equipment & that it had taken them many more months than they had expected.

He also said that as a result of them presenting the programs on World Puja one of the people who had originally worked with Stan Meyers has come forward & is now going to be working with them on the Orion Project in this area.



Love, Light & Blessings
Sharyn

[Aromaz]

Stan Meyer Equipment

The complete Stan Meyer buggy, drawings, notes, experiments and all equipment are in the hands of the Orion Project since December 2007 - at least. They bought it only for US$ 120,000.

Now, if this was working so well, I do not understand why all our cars are not
running on water yet?

Something wrong?

[h20power]

It is hard for people to except that the hho cell is not needed, ie water fuel capacitor(WFC), and/or any other type of water splitting device that is in direct or indirect contact with the water. For the most part they just don't understand the math that was given to them, and are still looking for some form of magic. The whole process is very simple; postively charged and atomized water mist, processed air gases, and recirculated exhaust gases, and that is it. It took me a long time to finally understand just what Stanley Meyer had done, and once I learned the truth I decided to share it with the world here on this site.

Now it is known just where the energy is coming from, no magic, no zero point energy, no energy from the vacuum. People are having a very hard time accepting this for they have been at it a long time, and spent a fare amount of money trying to figure out what Stanley Meyer did. If people would just take the time to go over the math and understand what they have just went over they would know that Stanley Meyer technology has been finally solved.

It is going to take some time getting use to the idea of what the Gas Processor and electron extraction circuit are really doing. And many, just will not understand it even when shown a working model. Since they can't get past the math, a working model will look like a magic show to them.

Energy independence is everyones right to have, and this was done the right way given to humanity as a gift, enjoy


h2opower.

Hi H20power;

Thought you and some others would be interested in this and 5 other posts like it on Waterfuel78 this p.m.

Hugh and Tim,
Yuo both have abit of it right and some misobservations.
A little over a year ago, I was approached by a man who worked very
closely with Stan on his injector project. (from october 88 to
september96) stan sent him plans and this person outsourced the
machine shop operations and procured the parts to assemble the
injectors, then sent them when completed to Stan in ohio. I have over
1000 pages of development diagrams and have been stuyding them over
the course of the year past. The reason this individual trusts me is
because of my background in nucleonics and quantum physics. I have
determined by analysys that I can help with this:
1. one port on the injector base about 3 inchs from the bottom
discharge port. This seems to be for the introduction of r.o. water.
This evident after consulting with some of the inveters I spoke
with, having obseved Stan charge the water before use in the buggy.
2. Tim, you are correct in assuming that no water was flushed thru
the processor chamber. It was the effluent from the combustion
process that Stan explains in his new zealnd lecture set on yutube.
He used the flash steam from the combustion process over and over
contiouly to form a cyclonic idle process. He used a waste gate to
control decelleration and used the injection process to accellorate
with.
I have made several improvements over Stan's processes in that
seperation of the elements is essential to the success of burning a
gaseous water and ambient air mixture in a combustion chamber of an
ICE.The way Stan designed his Injector doesn't allow for brine
buildup in the discharge port .He used stainless 304 for the
electrodes and the base, angled to create a waveguide at the
discharge port. The water was aspirated into the combustion chamber
surrounding the electrode,this wets the electrode, damping the action
of the spark gap.This is what he meant when he said he had a way of
damping the GMT force so as to not destroy the engine components.
I have designed sparkgaps using tungsten electrodes that I purchased
rather cheaply thru Harbourfrieght.com - harborfreight tools Resources and Information. (5/12$usd).I also use
MACOR like stan. This stuff is not cheap(82$/ft).If someone has a
working alternatve, please let us know.
I will release a writeup soon , but as I am handicapped, it takes me
a while to accomplish these tasks at hand. Artinvegas...

--- In [email protected], "Tim" <chasson321@...> wrote:
>
> Hugh,
>
> The Gas Processor does not use water. It uses air. Check the
> patents and you will find the injector has three ports. One for
> water, ionized gas - from the gas processor, and non-combustable
gas
> from exhaust gas.
>
> The Gas Processor raises the level of the oxygen from ambient air.
>
>
> --- In [email protected], "Hugh" <scriabini@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Smack for the 'food for thought.'
> >
> > H2Opower has laid out a lengthy hypothesis that is partially
> correct.
> >
> > But, in order to produce the intense, high voltage, resonant
> electric
> > field that is necessary to the Meyer process, the plates
> (electrodes)
> > of the electrolyzer must not be in direct contact with the water.
> > They must either be insulated with a thin layer of high strength
> > dielectric, or the plates may be mounted on the outside of a
> > non-conductive container.
>


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Al

[h20power]

Your Wellcome

The reason I didn't tell how to build the Gas Processor is simple, in all of my engineering classes in college we would be given a set of rules and a goal to accomplish. At the end of the time frame give to us, each and every team would have a working model that met the goals we were given, but each of our solutions would be very different to one anothers. That is what I am looking for, many different solutions that all work to accomplish our goal of making water a fuel source.

I will look and see if I have anymore information, but I think I posted everything.


h2opower.

thank you h20power for the attached document! i've been looking for information like that and have not been able to find it. mine prototype is coming along slowly, but it will get there! thanks again for all your help! also, ANTIQUER, do you have, can you get any more information about this?

[wwdotme]

I can't get the k-9 passage links to open

@Boguslaw, it is not that simple. What you are talking about is the steam resonator where you change phases, in this case you never get electrons. Longitudinal waves yes, that is true but how you interpret their working is very different from my picture.

There are different pulse methods and the WFC means pulsing HF, HV unipulses into the waterbath, that is when you convert neutrinos(Meyl - scalar waves) into electrons in the waterbath. HHO IS NEGATIVELY CHARGED. The other method is a different matter.