Water Sparkplug

[Jetijs]

Mike, just connect the copper tube with the fogger case!

Also, the fogger wont work in cold liquids, you need warm liquids for it to work.

[jstadwater]

I just took this one apart, it is simply a copper tube with the two wire ends inside soldered to the inside of the tube. Will try a solid wire connection between the two wires to see what happens. Later.......................Mike

[Jetijs]

Thanks Chris
I got it to work and it works even better on gasoline - more fog than with water. All you need to do is to connect the sensor metal plate with the fogger case with a wire and it will work in gasoline

[Chris31]

It might be different due to different liquid densities. The water is a bit thicker than gasoline/diesel. But I think that this fogger should work just as fine on gaoline if not even better due to lower liquid density. All we need to do is to fool the sensor

Ultrasonic Misters

Check > Water Level Sensor

[Jetijs]

I though that the frequency to break diesel or gasoline would be different from water.

It might be different due to different liquid densities. The water is a bit thicker than gasoline/diesel. But I think that this fogger should work just as fine on gaoline if not even better due to lower liquid density. All we need to do is to fool the sensor

[Jetijs]

Here's how this sensor looks like without the protective shrink tape (still works )



Maybe someone can tell what type of sensor this is?

[Chris31]

I though that the frequency to break diesel or gasoline would be different from water.

[Jetijs]

Mike,
I just observed the same with my fogger. It works on water, but does not work in gasoline. The water level sensor is clearly responsible for this. But to disable the sensor, we first must know what kind of sensor that is and how it works, because if you just cut it off, the whole thing might just not works anymore. This might be a resistance sensor that measures the liquid resistance and then decides if to turn the fogger on or not. Water a measurable resistance, but gasoline shows nothing on my meter, that means that gasoline resistance is much higher. But it can also be a capacitive sensor... Will google around about this. I already asked that guy how he did it, lets wait for the answer. Let me know if you find something out
Thanks.

[gmeast]

accent

Hey Guys,

I have a question about the guy making fog from deisel fuel (page 60 or 61 I think). In the first part of the video, he states it's an ultrasonic transducer, right after that he says that something is "modified" and I can't understand what he says due to his accent. Can anyone here understand what he says is modified? I have tried deisel fuel and gasoline and can't get either to go to fog. Even heated the deisel fuel to 135 degrees, still no go. Also looks like he has removed the "waterlevel sensor" from the top of the transducer, would that have any effect I wonder? Any suggestions are appreciated, later.......................Mike

Hi Mike,

One thing he says is he deactivates the "water low" sensor.

Greg

[jstadwater]

Thanks lapperl,

I got the same thoughts from the guy in the next shop over from me when he heard it. It makes sense now, I just couldn't make it out at first. I'll try that next, first is water-fog and HHO to see what happens with the plasma spark. Later..............................Mike

[lapperl]

Hey Guys,

I have a question about the guy making fog from deisel fuel (page 60 or 61 I think). In the first part of the video, he states it's an ultrasonic transducer, right after that he says that something is "modified" and I can't understand what he says due to his accent. Can anyone here understand what he says is modified? I have tried deisel fuel and gasoline and can't get either to go to fog. Even heated the deisel fuel to 135 degrees, still no go. Also looks like he has removed the "waterlevel sensor" from the top of the transducer, would that have any effect I wonder? Any suggestions are appreciated, later.......................Mike

I believe that is what he said, that he removed the water sensor.

LapperL

[jstadwater]

Hey Guys,

I have a question about the guy making fog from deisel fuel (page 60 or 61 I think). In the first part of the video, he states it's an ultrasonic transducer, right after that he says that something is "modified" and I can't understand what he says due to his accent. Can anyone here understand what he says is modified? I have tried deisel fuel and gasoline and can't get either to go to fog. Even heated the deisel fuel to 135 degrees, still no go. Also looks like he has removed the "waterlevel sensor" from the top of the transducer, would that have any effect I wonder? Any suggestions are appreciated, later.......................Mike

[poii]

Automotive Ignition Transfer Efficiency

Here's an interesting link:

http://www.directhits.com/tech/SAE_02ffl_204.pdf

[Ansis Freimanis]

Hi, Lapper!

I think in internet you can find information about your vehicle. After, you can make some "modifications". Send me e-mail to [email protected] I have some materials about this problem.
Thanks!

[lapperl]

LapperL, i had no idea you had an EFI car, please use an EFIE, the best one is the covert auto on, goto the panacea university site and down load the hydroxy course. Then put in search "claudio" then it will bring you to Jason's and claudio's open source EFIE.

Ash,

Actually is not EFI it has a carburetor with electronic fuel control. It is one of the very early fuel control systems before fuel injection. An O2 modifier should take care of the consumption and carbon build up, but the electrode wear is what I am mainly concerned with.

I'm looking forward to Greg and Jstaddwater's results after some long term testing.



LapperL