Water Sparkplug

[frenchy]

hello,
@ k1W1 & GOTOLUC:

i don't have so mutch knowledge in electronics, but set up an engine is most easy for me. so i am searching a way to replicate the effect that capacitor70 has in his engine.

i have already seen plugs welding in some stock gasoline engine and i think maybe we can solve the problem of plugs consumption in an other way that reducing power,i think of heat rating of the plugs, multi plugs, carb and timing settings...

now i guess you better understand my point of view and why i don't want to try experiments in a way i am not familiar with instead of others where i know i can give my stone to the building.
thanks to your interest.

[gmeast]

circuit component diagram

Wow, That is really a breakthrough piece of knowledge there.

Do you have a revised circuit for this setup?

Hi all,

I have attached a sketch of the EXACT circuit I have built. Again it is based on the original observation by Gotoluc and demonstrated by Peter Lindemann in a video showing an isolation model circuit/hardware.

I have been experimenting using only115 VAC. After adaptation to my generator, I may find the need to increase the voltage on the charge side in order to reinforce the spark's discharge stability.

Stay tuned. Peace,

Greg

[etgone]

Hi all,

I have attached a sketch of the EXACT circuit I have built. Again it is based on the original observation by Gotoluc and demonstrated by Peter Lindemann in a video showing an isolation model circuit/hardware.

I have been experimenting using only115 VAC. After adaptation to my generator, I may find the need to increase the voltage on the charge side in order to reinforce the spark's discharge stability.

Stay tuned. Peace,

Greg

Thanks GMEAST!

Question on the two Charge Triac's there are "Read SW" on each, is there a part number? Do you have some close up pictures of this setup?

Thanks and looking forward to use this setup.
ET

[gmeast]

Thanks GMEAST!

Question on the two Charge Triac's there are "Read SW" on each, is there a part number? Do you have some close up pictures of this setup?

Thanks and looking forward to use this setup.
ET

Hi etgone,

There is one 'Charge Triac' and one 'Discharge Triac'. The reed switches I'm using are proximity sensor reed switches used in security on doors and windows and stuff. If you go to YouTube and type in "gmeast" then play the video "Triac Water Spark Plug - Reed Switch Control" you will see the entire set up. There is also a rotary version of the same thing. In those videos there are two HV diodes connected in series. Now they are connected in parallel and it runs solidly.

Thanks for your interest. Peace,

Greg

[etgone]

Thanks Greg and great videos too!

Look forward to your motor setup.

Take care,
ET

[gotoluc]

@everyone,

today was a sunny day in Ottawa, so I did my timing switch mod and tested the engine just to find more problems with my ignition switching causing too many spark misses, so I failed to get the engine started today.

I did do a video of the test even though it failed If anyone is interested in seeing the setup. It is uploaded on the new Energetic Forum video hosting service called EnergeticTube: Half GEET Plasma Engine Test - Energetictube.com*-*Where technology goes LIVE!

Luc

[etgone]

@everyone,

today was a sunny day in Ottawa, so I did my timing switch mod and tested the engine just to find more problems with my ignition switching causing too many spark misses, so I failed to get the engine started today.

I did do a video of the test even though it failed If anyone is interested in seeing the setup. It is uploaded on the new Energetic Forum video hosting service called EnergeticTube: Half GEET Plasma Engine Test - Energetictube.com*-*Where technology goes LIVE!

Luc

Hi Luc,

Great video even though the motor did not start.
Also thank you for the Video Hosting Service... I do not support YOUTUBE with their selected policy. I will use this service and hope Aaron does the same. I miss all his videos and would like to watch them again.

Look forward to your success,
ET

[gotoluc]

Hi Luc,

Great video even though the motor did not start.
Also thank you for the Video Hosting Service... I do not support YOUTUBE with their selected policy. I will use this service and hope Aaron does the same. I miss all his videos and would like to watch them again.

Look forward to your success,
ET

Thanks for the positive comment etgone.

The EnergeticTube is the amazing work of Darcy Klyne in effort to help Aaron and the Forum members with important video sharing. I'm sure Aaron will start uploading once he finds the time.
Anyways, I think Darcy's work deserves our support and a good hand , so sign up guys and girls!... get those cameras rolling and lets share

Luc

[xpskid]

Hi all,

I have attached a sketch of the EXACT circuit I have built. Again it is based on the original observation by Gotoluc and demonstrated by Peter Lindemann in a video showing an isolation model circuit/hardware.

I have been experimenting using only115 VAC. After adaptation to my generator, I may find the need to increase the voltage on the charge side in order to reinforce the spark's discharge stability.

Stay tuned. Peace,

Greg

Thanks for the schematic Greg !!! I enjoy following your progress.

My relay arcs and pits the contacts (Peter replica) so I'd like to go solid state similar to yours. Can you tell me the size of the resistors between the triac gate and the reed switch ? I can't quite make it out on the diagram.

I did try the diodes (2) in parrallel tonight. I saw a slight improvement.

For reference, I'm using VMI diodes. The SPJ450F (45KV, 0.5A, 70ns) didn't seem to work, The 1N6837 (5kV,0.5A, 30ns) works well, The 1N6519 (10KV, 0.5A, 70ns) provides the best result (noticably). I'm firing with 150v, and add another 150V booster cap on the side.

A couple comments: I have a honda GC series 5 hp motor. It already has a timng belt with overhead cam. It's easy access with the gear reduction already done. If you have one of these, I would think it may be easier to modify and avoid the waste spark.

Has anyone started playing with a vehicle set-up yet? If so, drop me a note.
I have a vehicle sitting, waiting for this type of experimental fun.

Thanks everyone, I love this group

Regards,

Timm

[gmeast]

test

@everyone,

today was a sunny day in Ottawa, so I did my timing switch mod and tested the engine just to find more problems with my ignition switching causing too many spark misses, so I failed to get the engine started today.

I did do a video of the test even though it failed If anyone is interested in seeing the setup. It is uploaded on the new Energetic Forum video hosting service called EnergeticTube: Half GEET Plasma Engine Test - Energetictube.com*-*Where technology goes LIVE!

Luc

Luc,

Thanks for the candid post. I'm glad EnergeticTube is back up. I registered just before it temporarily went down. My registration info' was retained. Should I upload one or two of my most recent vids to EnergeticTube?

I'm close to completing my gearing for the timing mod. I'll start mounting things in the next couple of days ... got to do my regular work. You how it goes.

Peace,

Greg

[gotoluc]

Luc,

Should I upload one or two of my most recent vids to EnergeticTube?

Peace,

Greg

Hi Greg, thanks for the comment. I think we should all start uploading our new or old video's on EnergeticTube. The sooner we start the faster it will grow and be known as the #1 place to look for Energy Solutions.

Soon we will discover much more and the World will be embracing these discoveries .

Lets get it going for a brighter future for All

Luc

[gmeast]

resistors

Thanks for the schematic Greg !!! I enjoy following your progress.

My relay arcs and pits the contacts (Peter replica) so I'd like to go solid state similar to yours. Can you tell me the size of the resistors between the triac gate and the reed switch ? I can't quite make it out on the diagram.

I did try the diodes (2) in parrallel tonight. I saw a slight improvement.

For reference, I'm using VMI diodes. The SPJ450F (45KV, 0.5A, 70ns) didn't seem to work, The 1N6837 (5kV,0.5A, 30ns) works well, The 1N6519 (10KV, 0.5A, 70ns) provides the best result (noticably). I'm firing with 150v, and add another 150V booster cap on the side.

A couple comments: I have a honda GC series 5 hp motor. It already has a timng belt with overhead cam. It's easy access with the gear reduction already done. If you have one of these, I would think it may be easier to modify and avoid the waste spark.

Has anyone started playing with a vehicle set-up yet? If so, drop me a note.
I have a vehicle sitting, waiting for this type of experimental fun.

Thanks everyone, I love this group

Regards,

Timm

Hi Timm,

The gate resistors are 3K ohms. The main reason I had decided to go to parallel diodes was because I was running blind as far as what kind of current was trying to squeeze through the diode. Heat clued me that it might be pushing the limit. So I went parallel and saw a drastic "relative" improvement. I think resistance plays a part on the effect and every parallel diode reduces that resistance proportionately.

Thanks for your interest.

Greg

[gmeast]

step 3 - mounting plate and idle shaft

Hi all,

Just an update photo of my progress. Got the hard part done. The rest will involve mostly non-metallic components like the magnet plate mounted to the driven gear marked by an "x" and the switch plate that will be mounted on stand-offs on the sub-plate marked "y".

The switch plate will be clockable for timing adjustment and will have the charge reed switch and discharge reed switch mounted diametrically opposed. This arrangement lets me use any triggering devices, optical chopper, hall effect or whatever in place of the reed switches in the event they end up 'floating' at higher speed.

Peace,

Greg

[gotoluc]

Hi all,

Just an update photo of my progress. Got the hard part done. The rest will involve mostly non-metallic components like the magnet plate mounted to the driven gear marked by an "x" and the switch plate that will be mounted on stand-offs on the sub-plate marked "y".

The switch plate will be clockable for timing adjustment and will have the charge reed switch and discharge reed switch mounted diametrically opposed. This arrangement lets me use any triggering devices, optical chopper, hall effect or whatever in place of the reed switches in the event they end up 'floating' at higher speed.

Peace,

Greg

An excellent and simple design Greg I like it Can I post your picture on the Overunity forum for others to see?

Thanks for sharing.

Luc

[gmeast]

picture

An excellent and simple design Greg I like it Can I post your picture on the Overunity forum for others to see?

Thanks for sharing.

Luc

Hi Luc,

Thanks. Go for it!

Greg