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Update 20.12.11
The drawing on the hood says how it works... one of the keys is his honeycomb plate (or plates) as it allows for much easier gas flow actually through the plates themselves as opposed to solid plates. But this does greatly reduce the overall metal surface area of the plates... but, that said, that might not be a bad thing...
There are two types of hydrolysis - 1 uses brute force and high current and an electrolyte and produces a lot of heat.
The other is unconventional electrolysis as perfected by Daniel Dingel and Stan Meyer (both who are dead now) - this uses pure tap water with no electrolyte and far lower currents and produces little or no heat.
There's a key somewhere that hits this magic point where mass disassociation of the hydrogen and oxygen occurs which is far greater than anything produced through conventional electrolysis.
There are three different frequencies where greater dissociation occurs and the exact frequencies vary with each unit so aren't set in stone and need to be found by trial and error but are usually around the same frequencies give or take a little.
Stan Meyer's 'pipes' in his original HHO unit, if you look very closely, you'll see that they have slots cut out of the top of the outer tubes - the only logical reason for this is to tune the pipes in exactly the same way as you do with church organ pipes - as the outer tube is obviously larger than the smaller one inside they will both resonate at different frequencies... So I believe that he cut the slots in the outer tubes to tune them so that both the inner and outer tubes resonate at exactly the same frequency. So I think that the success of this early unit was somehow based on harmonics and or resonance.
Danial Dingel's is/was a completely different design and I believe he'd cracked the code by combining magnetism with bismuth as the core at the bottom of his unit and then had the honeycomb plate (or plates) mounted horizontally above the core, immersed in the pure tap water and, due to the holes in the honeycomb, this allowed the HHO gas to flow up from the core and through the honeycomb mesh. I'm still pondering if there is any significance with the honeycomb holes being hexagonal and if it would work in exactly the same way with the plate or plates having round holes in them - I can't really see how the shape of the holes would affect the workings of the unit so it might just have been that it far was easier to buy honeycomb mesh off the shelf as opposed to buying solid plate(s) and then drilling hundreds of holes in them.
Since I met Daniel in March 2008 I've not actually done any experiments as in the December they destroyed my business and I had to focus on putting that back together again just to survive. But I really do need to sit down with some magnets and some bismuth and some honeycomb mesh and have a play about with them and see exactly how they interact together. The very intriguing thing was that the unit also generated electricity all by itself as soon as you added water too it - he said with a mains inverter it would power a small fridge or a TV for about three months! So simply connect a few units together in parallel to give you more current output and you wouldn't need very many connected together to give you 5kw which would power the average small house.
I agree with you about too much current creating too much heat but this is still looking at it conventionally... There is a much more efficient way of doing this - it's just a matter of unlocking the correct combination and then getting that EUREKA moment!
)
All the best
ethospete...
The drawing on the hood says how it works... one of the keys is his honeycomb plate (or plates) as it allows for much easier gas flow actually through the plates themselves as opposed to solid plates. But this does greatly reduce the overall metal surface area of the plates... but, that said, that might not be a bad thing...
There are two types of hydrolysis - 1 uses brute force and high current and an electrolyte and produces a lot of heat.
The other is unconventional electrolysis as perfected by Daniel Dingel and Stan Meyer (both who are dead now) - this uses pure tap water with no electrolyte and far lower currents and produces little or no heat.
There's a key somewhere that hits this magic point where mass disassociation of the hydrogen and oxygen occurs which is far greater than anything produced through conventional electrolysis.
There are three different frequencies where greater dissociation occurs and the exact frequencies vary with each unit so aren't set in stone and need to be found by trial and error but are usually around the same frequencies give or take a little.
Stan Meyer's 'pipes' in his original HHO unit, if you look very closely, you'll see that they have slots cut out of the top of the outer tubes - the only logical reason for this is to tune the pipes in exactly the same way as you do with church organ pipes - as the outer tube is obviously larger than the smaller one inside they will both resonate at different frequencies... So I believe that he cut the slots in the outer tubes to tune them so that both the inner and outer tubes resonate at exactly the same frequency. So I think that the success of this early unit was somehow based on harmonics and or resonance.
Danial Dingel's is/was a completely different design and I believe he'd cracked the code by combining magnetism with bismuth as the core at the bottom of his unit and then had the honeycomb plate (or plates) mounted horizontally above the core, immersed in the pure tap water and, due to the holes in the honeycomb, this allowed the HHO gas to flow up from the core and through the honeycomb mesh. I'm still pondering if there is any significance with the honeycomb holes being hexagonal and if it would work in exactly the same way with the plate or plates having round holes in them - I can't really see how the shape of the holes would affect the workings of the unit so it might just have been that it far was easier to buy honeycomb mesh off the shelf as opposed to buying solid plate(s) and then drilling hundreds of holes in them.
Since I met Daniel in March 2008 I've not actually done any experiments as in the December they destroyed my business and I had to focus on putting that back together again just to survive. But I really do need to sit down with some magnets and some bismuth and some honeycomb mesh and have a play about with them and see exactly how they interact together. The very intriguing thing was that the unit also generated electricity all by itself as soon as you added water too it - he said with a mains inverter it would power a small fridge or a TV for about three months! So simply connect a few units together in parallel to give you more current output and you wouldn't need very many connected together to give you 5kw which would power the average small house.
I agree with you about too much current creating too much heat but this is still looking at it conventionally... There is a much more efficient way of doing this - it's just a matter of unlocking the correct combination and then getting that EUREKA moment!
)All the best
ethospete...
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