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  • Chip Shorter
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    Originally posted by theremart View Post
    How many amps is your SCR? I see them from 18 to 200 amp..

    Thanks again for the input!
    Its a mcr265-10 which is rated for 55 amps @800 on my original version(edit)
    Depending on the size of your capacitor. If you use a very big cap maybe you want to go with the higher current SCR. So if you see yourself down the road going to change the cap around or add more, maybe a bigger SCR would be advantagous. Go with what you can afford.
    A note about making changes to these circuits: Sometimes when you get the thing running you see what is really happening... In the book Free Energy Generation they talk about getting 300KW pulses on the negative side of the battery... In the same book they show an antenna variation whereas they hook up a long antenna to the HV cap and then fire the SCR into the Battery. If using an antenna we could presume that the voltage is there perhaps 200-600 volts but I can tell you very little current is present perhaps micro amps and the cap is very small probably a few hundred pico-farads. However the Dialectric strength of these componets must be able to withstand hundreds of volts. Also I can tell you that the advanced motor circuit with the 555 charges way faster than the antenna system. So pulse potential/frequency is key here. Remember when discharging caps electron current shows up due to the fact you have a voltage drop when the SCR fires. If you haven't already got the book Free Energy Generation Circuits and Schematics by John Bedini and Tom Bearden it is worth getting. Its hard to read at first but once you build the circuits-the motor ones at least-by the 5th or 6th time you read it all makes perfect sense. I strongly recommend the book because it covers the theory and how it has been misinterpeted/overlooked over the last 100+ years. Also the bibliography section of the book is chock full of interesting info too.
    Last edited by Chip Shorter; 06-28-2008, 07:55 PM. Reason: Scr value/type

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  • ashtweth
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    Originally posted by gosho View Post
    Thank you, Ashtweth. Where is this old board, is it still alive? Maybe I could read some useful discussions there.
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  • theremart
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    Re: Scr

    Originally posted by Chip Shorter View Post
    theremart- I think the SCR he wants you to use should be rated for 800 volts. I have some that are as big as a hockey puck and others that are in a TO-220 package size. All 800 volts.

    If your talking about the resistors on the 555 and the h11d1 1/8 watt will do. I would go 1/4 or half watt on the transistor circuit. The cap I used on my first one was out of a flash circuit for a disposable camera. The value escapes me at this time but the whole thing worked great.
    How many amps is your SCR? I see them from 18 to 200 amp..

    Thanks again for the input!

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  • Chip Shorter
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    theremart- I think the SCR he wants you to use should be rated for 800 volts. I have some that are as big as a hockey puck and others that are in a TO-220 package size. All 800 volts.

    If your talking about the resistors on the 555 and the h11d1 1/8 watt will do. I would go 1/4 or half watt on the transistor circuit. The cap I used on my first one was out of a flash circuit for a disposable camera. The value escapes me at this time but the whole thing worked great.

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  • theremart
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    Solid state...

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    Ok this is what I have so far on building the SS from the FEG book.


    Next question, do I need 2W resistors? I just want to build this right.

    For the SCR, I guess I should get 1 or 2 because they burn out easy? I was hoping to do 24V with this...


    Thanks..
    Last edited by theremart; 06-27-2008, 09:52 PM.

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  • gosho
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    Thank you, Ashtweth. Where is this old board, is it still alive? Maybe I could read some useful discussions there.

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  • gosho
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    You are probably right, but I can not claim to have any insight about this radiant energy stuff and I agree with Mr. Bedini when he says "first do exactly as I say, then experiment".

    Regards

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  • Chip Shorter
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    All you really have to do is provide a high voltage dc source for the cap. The chopper circuit takes care of the rest. You can use a Cockroft-Walton type circuit that is staged. Its similar to what your doing now but with a couple of inductors and diodes in series instead of just one stage.

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  • gosho
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    Hello guys,

    I want to ask those of you who built a solid state device according to the Free Energy Generation book. Can you please tell me about the coil? How many windings, what height/width and what size of the core the book recommends?

    Thanks,
    gosho

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  • ashtweth
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    thats what we are here for mart, to look out for each other and help one another, all of us pared together will make it a dark day for the oil cartels

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  • theremart
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    Thanks!!



    I sure do appreciate your help.

    Mart

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  • ashtweth
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    Guys i just asked about the solid state

    "The schematic you have in the FEG doc is correct, tho the transistor is the wrong one... should be the BD243C. The rest of the schematic is accurate. The frequency it oscillates is far higher than 913hz... its around 3.3khz on the one I built. "

    Ash

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  • ren
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    Hey Mart, Dude check out my comments to Sep in the "24 volt cap pulser" thread. There is a diagram I drew there with step by step instructions for the wiring of the 555 and opto (yes its H11d1) etc.

    You shouldnt use 4001's for the bridge, I think they are only rated for 50v. 4007's or 5408's should do the trick. Pretty much any coil you can get to self oscillate, it doesnt have to be as big as Aarons. Mine is only a 100grams of #22 SWG X 3. Aaron has used a transistor to interupt flow instead of an SCR, and he has used a different cap on the 555 by the looks of it. You can try different cap values across the bridge, the lower the uF the higher the voltage will shoot up to.

    Good luck

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  • Aaron
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    ss specs

    I would use resistor sizes, etc... as indicated in the schematics in the FEG book.

    The first pic is a H11D1 optocoupler

    The second was 2 resistors I had in parallel for some reason. You only need one and it probably won't be a 10 ohm...you can see some examples on the schematics in the FEG book.

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