Bedini SG

[theremart]

Ok, I got it to sorta work. Solid State Infinite Power Supply (IPS) from Ossie Calla

I built it exactly as the diagram has, except I am using a relay to protect my reed switch.

I am unable to get the coil to trigger the reed switch ( so far )... but moving the reed switch to the magnets it does move like a regular pulse motor

One note my transistor is getting extremely hot..... I may be putting on a heat sync. I wish I had some point of reference to know what I am doing wrong to get the reed switch to trigger on the coil.

Think I will take a break, but anyone who has done this before, would be glad to get your insights.

Mart

[Sephiroth]

i've been trying to replicate it as well and can not get the coil to trigger the reed switch... I also tried hooking the trigger coil in series with the reed and strapping it to the back side of my core but still no luck...

[elias]

The Radiant Energy Converter

Hello everyone and thanks for your efforts, but ...

I personally like the battery bank setup ,and I think that it is better to first test that part. For pulsing a coil one does not need to make a motor at all, a 555 and a mosfet, will do that. I think that SSG's objective is to be also a good motor with torque which draws less under load and a battery charger.

I would suggest testing the second part of the document, which I think is one of the keys to capturing more of the Radiant Energy.
I don't think that pulsing a coil for a very short amount of time, will put out enough torque. I had tested this before by using a 555, and a hall switch. Also I don't think that the output impulse would have enough force to charge the battery, because of less electron flow, As Peter has told us we require a bare minimum of electron current to charge the battery.

Charging the battery with more electron per impulse is like hitting a heavier hammer each time to the nail(battery) instead of more lighter hammers. Which one would have more effect on the nail? The heavier hammer (more electron) or the lighter one (less electron)? Of course heavier hammers can put the nail in its place in few impulses, but using a light hammer would not cause the nail to move so much, with even more impulses.

So I think that there is an optimum ratio, between Radiant Energy (the impulse) and the electron current (The weight of each impulse).

Anyway just thoughts, eager to hear your opinions.

Elias

[Sephiroth]

Trying that now and just found something really wierd...

i hooked 4 of my dead batteries in series and then hooked them in parralel with the battery on the sg i'm charging (that's how its done isnt it?)

well here are the battery voltages:

Charging battery = 13.17v

and going from the negative to the positive side of the charging battery

battery 1 = 12.11v
battery 2 = 7.51v
battery 3 = -14.19 (yes, MINUS 14.19 volts)
battery 4 = 7.17v

battery 3 was the dead dead dead battery that was only on 0.5volts
battery 2 is the other dead dead dead battery that had been charging on the sg for 2 days.

what is up with the minus voltage?! is that even possible?

i'll see what they are doing after an hour

[theremart]

RE: minus voltage.

Re label the termimnals and go with it 14 Volts sounds like it was reverse charged. (someone put the charger on backwards)

But it does sound like a good idea how he has the batteries hooked up on the back end, not sure if that really works, but worth a shot. I sure like putting batteries in series, I was just afraid that I would cook the one battery hooking up all the others up to it in series. I have 4 Deep cell batteries and 4 Golf cart batteries... currently I am super charging them by letting the voltage run up to the max. I understand this could take days, so I am holding out for the long run.

[Sephiroth]

cheers! jsut looked up reverse charging on wikipedia:

Reverse charging, which damages batteries, is when a rechargeable battery is recharged with its polarity reversed. Reverse charging can occur under a number of circumstances, the two most important being:
When a battery is incorrectly inserted into a charger.
When multiple batteries are used in series in a device. When one battery completely discharges ahead of the rest, the other batteries in series may force the discharged battery to discharge to below zero voltage.

I guess I should try and put some life back into it first! not doing such a bad job on its twin brother... charges up to 11.5 and rests at around 10... going to take a week to get it into a usable condition though!

I'll take battery 3 out for now!

[Sephiroth]

aw, that's just great... took out battery 3 and now battery 2 has dropped to minus voltage!

I guess those two just don't have a hope!

[Schpankme]

Using Weak Magnet

I am unable to get the coil to trigger the reed switch ( so far )

"Using a very small and weak magnet, you can now control and adjust the reed switch. (see picture provided)

"This will allow you to adjust the switching so that the circuit oscillates continuously but still powers the passing magnet on the rotor."

"When you do this the coils HISS very loudly! Yes, the coils HISS, not with a tone or frequency but with a hiss like NOISE?"

- Schpankme

[theremart]

YES I just completed my dual Coil as well!!!! got quit a few good shocks working on it though. For some reason my second transistor was getting very hot couldn't figure it out it was running and everything was hooked up correctly Switched out my diode from 1N914 to 1N4001 no change than it dawned on me it only got hot when I hooked up the coil to the collector but it is a pretty small coil only 120 turns of bifillar 18awg not very much resistance . So I put a 10ohm 10W resistor on it and it its working fine now resistor gets hot not the transistor. I was thinking I would try to go lower till the transistor just barley gets warm and stop their I want as much of that precious radiant energy to get back to my battery. The RPM's are also much faster now and when I hooked up my 2 12Volts in series for a nice 24V she took off! however I have not yet figured out how to measure my amp draw, I have a multimeter but which wires or poles do I hook it up to? Also why would my second transistor get hot but not the first one theremart did you experience anything like this?

I have finished getting all of my wires back in order, and yes, The second transistor is getting VERY hot. I really would like to have this corrected before i move to any higher voltage. Anybody have ideas why this may be?

[theremart]

Ok more info found.

http://www.overunity.com/index.php?topic=1868.msg21763

They have a long thread about this device there.

There are more pictures of the setup he is using. I am still wrestling with this one...

Mart

[Samemf]

Hello everyone ,

Heres a few videos of my bedini learning curve .

YouTube - bedini one coil

YouTube - bedini bike wheel

YouTube - bedini one coil harddisk

YouTube - my bedini energizers of solar

Im sorry bout the quality

buts each one helped me advance ahead in learning .
This forum has been a great encouragemment and infomation sharing is great .

The last video has my latest bedini with three coils , it pull 330-340ma
I had to make the magnet to coil spaces bigger because it just went incredibly fast and wanted to take off like a helicopter , so until I make some kind of shield I have it out a bit and runs ok , Charging seems ok thus far .

A few things Iv learnt was tunning is very important , I downloaded xscope and made a lead with a voltage divider and its perfect for tunning , however I noticed that it also effected the bedini ie when i take the scope leads off speed changes , therefore I would use my clamp ammeter and occasionally quickly check wave forms ,

so yes tunning is importatnt and is a bit of job for 3 coils .
spacing of magnets to coils also changes the tunning of your bedini .

ie if you change space of magnets to coil you would have to retune with different base resistance .

Conditioning batteries is a must , I know its very frustrating with long charges but as kevin mentions is a previous post i read he did not start seeing good results until he cycled them like 20-30 times .

Smaller batteries are easier and faster to cycle , I have a couple of small 1.3 ah batts and I cycled them many times , now I can charge these small batteries from 12 to 14.5 in like 3-4 hours .

I also did not wait for them to reach above 14 volts when cycling them I was taking them off at like 13.2volts , but as time went by they were charging faster and higher .

I am also now charging 12ah pretty good got them now to charge in like under 7 hours from 12.3 to 13.4 volts , but they are improving each time .


So what im trying to say is be patient , let things go along , and load them up at their c20 discharge rates and not higher , Im using them on night ights for the kids.

Thanks to everyone who inputs to the evolution of alternative energies in this forum .
Btw I have now connetected up a solar panel and regulator and running my bedinies off that for while .

I read here that some are hooking the charging batteries in series ?
up to 24v or 36v on the charging side .

can anyone comment on the results , and is the run battery still 12v in this setup ?

I tried it quickly and I hooked the 2 12ah batteries in series and they seemed and voltage seemed to be increasing , but I never left it like that .

Any info on this would be great .

Sam

[elias]

Thanks!

The last video has my latest bedini with three coils , it pull 330-340ma
I had to make the magnet to coil spaces bigger because it just went incredibly fast and wanted to take off like a helicopter , so until I make some kind of shield I have it out a bit and runs ok , Charging seems ok thus far .

Hi Sam,

Thanks for sharing your experiences, I am a bit concerned about turning my SSG into a helicopter too , because I am planning to make my SSG a Tri coiler and then Six coiler with nine magnets. Charging with a one coil SSG is frustrating and takes time, also treating dead batteries seems impossible. You certainly encouraged me making it a big energizer. My plan is to gradually prepare myself go off the grid.

Wish you success.

Elias

[theremart]

SSG Protection for the transistors when running at 24 V

Well, since I have heard others have fried transistors at 24V, I wanted to share what a friend of mine on Yahoo groups does to protect the transistors.

He lines up zener diodes in the circuit, and so far this has worked wonders for me. I would add 1 more zener if you go up to 36 V.

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24V SSG variation
SSG modified for 24 volt supply, to better protect the transistor from over voltage (maximum of 36 volts to output).
By: jpopelish ( yahoo groups )

Happy charging..
Mart

[Jetijs]

This is nice! Thanks for sharing

[theremart]

"Using a very small and weak magnet, you can now control and adjust the reed switch. (see picture provided)

"This will allow you to adjust the switching so that the circuit oscillates continuously but still powers the passing magnet on the rotor."

"When you do this the coils HISS very loudly! Yes, the coils HISS, not with a tone or frequency but with a hiss like NOISE?"

- Schpankme

I did try the weaker magnet, still no go I am going back to my multi coil setup.