COP 17 Heater | Rosemary Ainslie

[Harvey]

Next Steps Continued...

Now the reason for the prior post was to draw attention to the cause of the extra energy and address the direction that will inevitably follow.

One of the things Rosemary has consistently stated, and this is quite counter intuitive, is that the mass of the material is important to the amount of energy that can be generated. When working with resistive wires and we are trying to get more heat we classically look for the smaller wire because it has the higher resistance. This may be the primary reason why classically this effect has been overlooked.

To provide a more optimum effect then, materials research will need to be done along the lines of finding those materials that produce the most resistance and inductance while affording a high current flow. Additionally, the material of choice will have a characteristic of producing free radicals during thermomagnetic interactions which can be readily oxidized. This is where the greater mass comes in, because the more molecules or atoms that can be released from the mass, the greater the energy generated during their recombination with external elements.

It would be an interesting exercise to determine what the known energy is for the oxidation of the materials in our resistors when they are in a radical form. Also, what the energy differentials would be for two radicals of opposite ionization to combine in comparison to the BDE to remove them from the anchor atom in the lattice. Even that may produce a gain that could be applied in a vacuum environment.

These are solid fuel approaches, but we cannot overlook the possible advantages of liquid fuels or gases, even plasmas that could produce this form of fission at much higher levels using this same magnetic shock approach.

So, materials research will play an important role in the next steps.

[witsend]

Hi Aaron,

I emailed it some time back. Check your email box.

[Aaron]

email me the document

Please email me the document directly or skype it. It is only on scribd from what I see.

[witsend]

hello Harvey. Golly - so nice to see someone explain what I've been trying to point to. Many thanks for this. Luckily one of us is articulate - and it's not me.

I think we're all waiting for Aaron to do his thing here. Obviously the paper won't fit these posts but Aaron will sort something out. My own hope is that the asbtract and title will be shown?

Now that we've submitted I find myself with the strange sense of 'nothing left to do'. But there's one thing that's critical - thanks to the team in rallying with the paper. I could do nothing here other than delegate. And since that's my biggest talent - I gave it full expression. Fortunately most of my advices were ignored - instructions improved on or already attended to - and I distinctly remember my last instruction to Ash " Just go on ahead without me. I'll try and catch up.."

Well. THANK YOU EVERYONE - always a group effort. The guys for rallying with the paper - the guys for replicating and generally advising and testing - and to our reading public for being interested. That's teamsmanship in the very very broadest sense. It's been fun and it's been fraught - and nowhere inbetween.

BIG THANK YOU's ALL ROUND.



Have no other way to say all that I feel.

[Harvey]

Next Steps

Hi all - as most now know, I think , an open source paper has been prepared with Glen's arduous tests as a basis. Of course his tests have the original Ainslie experiment as its basis. And...of course...the original Ainslie experiment has Rosemary's Magnetic Model as it's basis.

As we understand it, the conservation of energy applies and only in rare circumstances like Xnyoung Fu's experiment, have the COE laws been officially challenged and even then he lost support due to the implications.

Rather than boldly state that an enormous field of potential energy exists that can be tapped like Paul did with his Dirac Sea, we have taken a more conservative approach as it relates to that energy known to given be away in the binding of atoms to each other. The strength of these bonds, known as Bond Strength in chemistry, is related to the Chemical Bond of given materials. The Bond Disassociation Energy (BDE) is a real energy recognized in chemistry and is generally determined by a process of Homolysis where free radicals are produced. It takes a fair amount of energy to disassociate an atom from its bound state and allow it to express itself as a free radical because solid matter is in a neutral state at a low energy level. But as Rosemary has recently reminded me, the smallest possible neutral particle (or powder as she put it) of any material is the lowest energy state of that material. This means that when a free radical exists it has an inherent energy potential because it is looking to be joined up to reach its lowest energy state. When these free radicals are rejoined, either to each other or with oxygen or other compounds found in the atmosphere, they give up energy. Some of this energy comes from the external material provided by the atmosphere. It is this external energy which becomes usable in this arrangement.

In the paper, reference was made to an exploding wire that had too much current flowing through it and the energy that was released in that process as opposed to a gradual decay of material and the energy associated with it. The reality is, that more energy is demonstrated over the gradual decay because of the external energy that is made available to the system. While the exploding wire may produce a very dramatic effect, most of the energy demonstrated comes from the power source with only small amounts added from the recombination of molecules whereas with the Ainslie Heater a fair amount of energy is believed to come from an external source. In the case of the wire, the recombination energy, where free radicals recombine with each other, will be equal or less than the energy required to separate the molecules in the first place. In the case of the Heater we expect a greater quantity of combination with external material which offers new energy to the equation.

Because energy is often converted between forms, we can view this in simplistic terms and simply state that the energy produced is electromagnetic. When the produced energy transaction occurs inside a changing magnetic field it can merge with that field and add to its magnitude. Then, when that changing field collapses back into the inductor from whence it came, it will be carrying a new energy with it. Interestingly, according to Rosemary's model and in agreement with the Superposition Theorem, the little extra we get is considered a separate current and this separate current seeks balance from its own source. Now, try to imagine this is real terms.

When the magnetic field collapses it has the energy from two sources. The first source is the 24V battery and the second source is that energy produced in the inductors material when these free radicals recombine, or oxidize or what have you. Both energies are manifest in the amplitude of voltage present across the resistor-inductor. But while the one current is seeking its source, the 24V battery, the other current is simply seeking the other end of the resistor-inductor. This means that if we were able to view the current flow, in the inductors windings themselves, it would be different than the current flow in the wire connecting that same inductor to the battery! Likewise, if the circuit round about has less resistance than the inductor, then a greater current would flow through that path than the source was providing. To clarify that statement a little bit better; if the CEMF pulse was allowed to complete its path to the B(-), say through another load of less resistance than the inductor (or if the inductor had a diode at its exit to prohibit reverse current) then that current would prove to be greater than the current provided by the battery itself. Furthermore, the battery lead between the battery and inductor would show a new current flowing back to the inductor that would represent exactly that current provided by the molecular binding.

Ok...I'm sure that's about as clear as mud - but I wanted to get it in print before it vaporized from my mind...as many things often do.

(don't attempt time travel - you may leave your thoughts behind...)


Cheers to All,





Without going deep into the specifics here, it is readily accepted that energy cannot be created nor destroyed. Therefore, if the BDE is generally manifested as free electrons moving into the

[ashtweth]

Hail to the kings Fuzzy and H

Fuzzy, Rose , Harvey and your self are probably going to be catching up on sleep ATM, but ill just say i have never seen such talent work so decisively, Patrick Kelly was ready to help and others, but because of the dead line , Harvey had to go "balls to the wall" and what a job he did, Andrew and i only put in bits and pieces you and Harvey really are the star of the show man, i cant believe how quick you guys snapped that up and what you all had to go through due to the formatting of the IEEE and dead line. Thanks to Don too.

After I saw the formatting i jumped out of a 50 story building, and took out 2 innocent people on the ground (they are recovering its okay )

Harvey only got around 6 hours sleep, Rose prob 20 minutes LOL. Unbelievable to get that done Glen, H and Rose, you guys are really some thing special i hope you know this.

That is what the open source community is consolidated, imagine us all with proper resources and the spot light in the educational community, we would change the world over night, YES i am afraid so, Rose's move is the first open source device to go mainstream this way with exclusively the open source community offering THEIR UNIQUE aptitude to this genre of engineering. What a banner for the community to have the "open source" at the top, Rose your absolutely bloody brilliant.

You and Doc Stiffler are making a REAL difference i hope you realize. We are all here to make it count.

The mainstream faculties are not gonna get it any other way. Its a great learning curve and is some thing that's going to be able to to be used to get other institutions to give recognition to the hard work the open source community does. Harvey kicked Butt too.

Harvey was awake for nearly 2 days Rose prob longer BTW. Of all the years and hard work i thought i have done i am absolutely blown away. Am addding all the new tests and thank yous to your PDF's on the uni site guys.

A sincere and humbled
Ash

[FuzzyTomCat]

IEEE - Paper

Hi everyone,

Here is the release of the submitted "open source" paper to the IEEE ....

Open Source Evaluation of Power Transients Generated to Improve Performance Coefficient of Resistive Heating Systems

I must thank everyone for there patience, efforts and help in compiling this document.

Glen

[witsend]

Jibbguy - please check your Skype message box

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Great work

Hi Luc

Great work as usual on your videos.

You now need to work out the work done, in heat, to see the total efficiency of the circuit.

Try using different diodes on the fly back charge from the secound coil, may be a FWBR like I have been using, rated at 1500v.

I am still playing around on mine, I have something that I cannot explain, when I put a resistive load,bulb 5w, across the output between the P/Transformer and the power coil the voltage goes up, take it away and it goes down. I think it is something to do with the resistance changing!

That voltage change is on the battery.

Mike

[ashtweth]

IEEE Submission

Hey all! It is in! Details and links to come

[FuzzyTomCat]

Test #14

Hi everyone,

Here is TEST #14 .... This used a experimental 10 Ohm load resistor that is 76mm in diameter with 18 turns of #20 AWG Ni-Cr Type "A" wire with a 1mm gap spacing. This is another one (1) hour test with 40us and 10us readings taken every six (6) minutes for a total of eleven (11) readings or twenty two (22) Image and Data files for one (1) hour. This experiment was a first time test using this "HUGE" 76mm load resistor that had marginal results ..... and will be revisited at a later date when more time is available to see if better data can be obtained .




TEST #14

Rosemary Ainslie COP>17 Heater Circuit
"Quantum" October 2002

Replication Components -

1)
w/ Sil-Pad insulator between Mosfet and Heat Sink

2) Fairchild Semiconductor - NE555N Timer

3) Vishay Spectrol - SP534 Percision Potentiometer/ 10-turn 2-Watt

4) Exide Technologies Battery "Liquid Lead Acid" Model # GT-H - TRACTOR 12V 12Ah CCA 235

5) CSB Battery Company "Gel Lead Acid" #GP 1270 F2 / 12 Volt 7.0 Ah

6) Prototype 76mm Load Resister 10 ohm + - 5%

7) "Shunt" - Caddock High Performance Film Resistor "non-inductive" 30 watt type MP930-0.25-1%


Temperature Measurements -

Fluke 62 "mini" IR Themometer ( used maximum reading on each componenet )

Digital Multi Meter -

Fluke 87 DMM true RMS

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Channel 1 - Mosfet source shunt
Channel 2 - Mosfet drain
Channel 3 - 555 Timer pin #3
Channel 4 - 24 VDC "Liquid" Lead Acid Battery Bank



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All Images and data by a Tektronix TDS 3054C from the Tektronix Corporation

Glen

[witsend]

Rosemary,

Please just email me the paper and I'll post it as a pdf with a permanent link.

Aaron - we're submitting as we speak. Please ensure that you're there to post the pdf link - else we'll do it directly to the forum if required.

We'll send you the PDF as soon as it's submitted.

Not sure how long it'll take. But I'll get hold of you as soon as this is done.

[Aaron]

paper

Rosemary,

Please just email me the paper and I'll post it as a pdf with a permanent link.

[witsend]

Guys - just to give you an update. Fuzzy's in the process of doing his 14th test - to check results on a wider diameter - same inductance resistor. Critical.

We're down to the wire with the submission. Substantially completed but Harvey's computer has been crashing all over the place - with those strange maladies that can variously be attributed to a mild viral attack or to co-incidence. It's plagued us all - and latterly has also infected my brother's. Sorry Peter Petes. Hope this is fixed.

We've forwarded copies to Tektronix - but may have sent them the corrupted copy and have not heard from them yet. Their assistance to this project is deeply acknowledged both here and in the paper.

AND AGAIN deep gratitude to Lisa. She's allowed us to use this so that Fuzzy can do his magic directly through his router and to whoever wants to look at that display. This should be available to you all in a day or two and ONLY AFTER SUBMISSION of the paper.

THANK YOU LISA

Nearly there guys. Just about 5 or so hours to submission. Then the paper should be posted here. Aaron - can you please help here with the way you want this done?

I haven't had much sleep lately and when I get the occassional shut eye I wake up in a blind panic. Not a happy place - but I can't complain of boredom. In fact the entire team have rallied like the stalwarts that they are. So many thanks to all of you.

[witsend]

Hi Luc,

Watched that last video. I think what you're doing is really interesting. The real surprise is that you're managing your effects without reference to a DSO.

I'm not sure about the accuracy of your ammeter. They're not usually able to pick up numbers at a fast frequency. But what I will tell you is that you've got a net negative current flow. To me it seems as if you're operating at OU. But I'm not sure of this.

PLEASE NOTE I donated a fluke 123 Oscilloscope to the project. This is with Aaron. Please contact him - I don't think he's reading here - and ask him to forward this - if possible and if either of you can pick up the tab for the transport costs. The point is that you clearly need this now and can get your numbers and waveforms better organised.

VERY WELL DONE. I think you're managing an analysis brilliantly - in the light of the scope restrictions you're experiencing. And THANK YOU LUC for testing this at all. I am always comforted when I see that someone of your skills in experimenting and logic - are at the helm.