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  • Cousin Itt
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    Hello everybody,

    so many insightful posts! I don't know where to begin.

    Thank you David for putting up the link to Kron's book "Tensors for Circuits". It will probably be 90% over my head, but many a time an interesting tidbit may be found even for an amateur as myself.

    This discussion around the Integratron is really fascinating. Perhaps Mr. Dollard could jump in and tell us what exactly were the functions of the Integratron.

    Van Tassel mentions in his book "When the Stars Look Down" rejuvenation and longevity as one of the possible functions. Then there is the communication aspect, etc.

    I wonder how would this rejuvenation and longevity via the Integratron look like? Would this mean that one would have to visit the Integratron over a certain time span in order to achieve the desired effect?

    Mr. Dollard, could you please tell us more about this?

    Van Tassel writes in his book "When the Stars Look Down" on page 174 (Chapter "The Integratron"):

    The purpose of the "Integratron" is to recharge energy into living cell structure, to bring about longer life with youthful energy.
    There is also something else that attracted my attention in Van Tassel's book, namely (page 177 - Chapter "The Integratron"):

    Our principle of operation is as simple as applying Lakhovskys multiple wave oscillation to Barnothys magnetic fields saturated with Teslas ionization to charge Dr. George Criles cell bateries. Our method of control is through a time function of frequency from zero time to infinity. This is our contribution. The schematic circuitry is a hundred times simpler than in a television set.
    The underlined sentences really struck me. A time function of frequency from zero time to infinity? Mr. Dollard, do you perhaps know what became of this schematic circuitry that Van Tassel is mentioning? How would it fit into the greater Integratron structure? Did Van Tassel make any notes or have any notebooks and if so, what became of them?

    In connection with the Integratron I would have an idea how Mr. Dollard could acquire additional financial means. If he would write a book on the Integratron from the perspective of an electrical engineer along with his personal experiences while working there, then a suitable publisher could perhaps publish it. The sales from the book might then generate a steady stream of money for Mr. Dollard.

    Mr. Dollard, you also made the following more than interesting reference to the Integratron months ago:

    Source:



    Did Donald Lockwood meet this lady from Mt. Shasta in a vision i.e. was it a visionary experience or did he meet her physically? Did Mr. Lockwood ever mention the exact location on Mt. Shasta where did he meet the lady? Was this just a one-time experience or did he meet her several times?

    Donald Lockwood must have been one heck of an interesting guy.

    Recently you made another interesting observation in connection with electric signals trapped in time:

    The notion came about in my Bell telephone education that the original Fourier concept included backward time frequencies, but these have been ignored to placate the Einsteiner. My Bell telephone research at the Landers installation further indicates a back in time wave exists in the study of broadband carrier telephone systems. Is it not a coincidence that Van Tassel says this in kind of a round about way? Quite possibly his co-workers were on to something. Consider this observation. A television signal several years old broadcast in America, is received in England. How did this happen? The Einsteiner comes up with many explanations but none that can work. My own theory is this: some disorder in the tuning of VHF television power amplifier energizing the broadcast antenna gave rise to a parasitic oscillation.This could be like that of the Caduceus oscillator, possibly, and launched itself through time into the future. To me that is just as plausible as the other theories of bouncing around in space for years, this being unlikely because of its transit attenuation.
    Source:



    Please consider this article: http://english.pravda.ru/society/ano.../6421-ghost-0/

    It is quite a bit on the woo-woo side, but still. This paragraph looks especially interesting:

    Henry Silanov uses unconventional cameras to take photographs of the past. Object-glasses are usually covered with a thin layer of magnesium fluoride to filter the ultra-violet part of the spectrum. However, Silanov believes this is the exactly the frequency, which allows the film to fix 'the memory of the field.' The scientist uses this term, because there is no better definition for the time being. Henry Silanov thinks space is a huge hologram filled with information about everything that was ever placed or moved in it. Certain conditions make it possible to 'turn the memory of space on.'
    Source:

    The collection of unique photographs includes pictures of dinosaurs, WWII soldiers Russian geologist, specialist for geophysical devices Henry Silanov fou...


    Sputins, you said:

    I have also been blown away. gob-smacked by the Electric universe together with the Gravity model you presented, the hollow Earth & planets with a "Farnsworth Star" inside.
    Ditto, Sir! I too was blown away when Mr. Dollard started writting about this. Why? Because we have here a brilliant electrical engineer with rich practical experience who thinks in a very sober fashion. If he says something like this, then I always pay attention.

    Dave, your post about the Integratron and Wheels of Destiny also caught my attention. You said:

    I place this device as being close to the Integratron as the designer quotes producing a 'ring of thunderstorms', which I have been able to replicate but also Alien visitors and other mystical manifestations.
    As far as we know, this is the only device of its type on this Planet and the designer has asked me not to use but am now obtaining permission as I would like to see what manifests at a frequency of 404.59 hertz, Earth resonance - Time Travel?
    Whenever I have run this device he has reported high winds in his area of New Mexico and thus the reason why he does not want me to rotate.
    I was naturally drawn to this device by the mention of thunderstorms which fitted into my Aetheric Weather Engineering work.
    Can see the Integratron as being a vehicle to also supply rain to the SW USA Deserts.
    Aetheric Weather Engineering? You mean the methods used by Trevor Constable?

    Tell us more about these Wheels of Destiny. How did the man you know come to make this invention? What parallels do you see with the Integratron and Mr. Dollard's work?

    Boy oh boy is this thread going into overdrive.

    Cousin Itt

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  • wyndbag
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    The electrostatic monopolar radiant energy idea has me intrigued. Years ago, while messing around with Kirlian photography, I exposed some photo paper to an indirect light. Actually the light source was traveling parallel to the photosensitive surface instead of the normal perpendicular. I noticed cool looking shooting star like effects so I kept exploring. I wanted to know if certain sorts of "invisible" phenomena could be viewed this way.

    I set up a shoe box with a slit in the bottom, put the lid on top and exposed the film briefly to a non scientific uv light source through the slit. I did a whole series of experiments with this technique. Genuine crackpot science.

    Among the objects I investigated was a pancake coil hung above the path of the light stream. A pancake coil is type of magnetic monopole. Anyway, I was able to generate quite a bit of anomalous fog with that coil. It was not
    electrified or charged artificially at all. The other interesting thing was that if I did electrify it, I got a really different kind of fog, but only once per coil.

    Just some foggy remembrances.

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  • SERG V.
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    to all:

    Hi. I need informations about all anomaly events from 1815-1817 at North America. (terrestrial and extra-terrestrial).

    Look at this Tesla sketch from 1925. Examine and study it carefully and tell me what are you thinking about 8 standing waves around globe. Have you any good idea but on the strong logical base ??

    ps. If somebody want to contact me here is my email: [email protected]
    Attached Files

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  • David G Dawson
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    Wheels Of Destiny

    Have an extra drawing here which may assist understanding which I missed in the last Post.

    Smokey
    Last edited by David G Dawson; 06-19-2012, 08:21 AM.

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  • David G Dawson
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    Integratron & Wheels Of Destiny

    Eric,
    Thankyou for your continuing exposure of the Integratron as every little piece I can gather will help in a model replication.
    I see you as being the only individual alive that is able to supply any reliable information on this fascinating device other than George's books.
    Appear to have a knack in developing these devices from little information as I have already established.

    Have a device here called 'The Wheels of Destiny' (WOD) which are two rotating Neo magnetic assemblies on spokes that intermesh and form a Vesica Pisces (VP).
    This device is based on sqroot 2 and the designer and myself have considerable data on the Math and Theory.
    I equate the physical magnet interaction here as similar to a Caduceus winding.
    The designer's original was finger powered and eventually broke due to the magnet intermeshing where mine is solid meshed and powered and able to be adjusted for the required rpm as I have fitted a bicycle Pedometer.
    Maximum rpm to date is about 660 and is reversible for Inflow or Outflow, Male or Female.

    Note the following all around 1.5:
    pHi = 1.618 Nature
    pi/2 = 1.571 Tesla TMT & Ratio Radius:Circumference = 3.14
    sqroot 2 = 1.414 Circles & Vesica Pisces

    I place this device as being close to the Integratron as the designer quotes producing a 'ring of thunderstorms', which I have been able to replicate but also Alien visitors and other mystical manifestations.
    As far as we know, this is the only device of its type on this Planet and the designer has asked me not to use but am now obtaining permission as I would like to see what manifests at a frequency of 404.59 hertz, Earth resonance - Time Travel?
    Whenever I have run this device he has reported high winds in his area of New Mexico and thus the reason why he does not want me to rotate.
    I was naturally drawn to this device by the mention of thunderstorms which fitted into my Aetheric Weather Engineering work.
    Can see the Integratron as being a vehicle to also supply rain to the SW USA Deserts.

    Have attached some data on this device.
    SW of USA is full of Military type installations and Tremantino NM is just one of those but displays the Vesica Pisces symbol which is identical to the WOD.
    The Lightning pics were unfortunately taken late as they were all around me when the action first began but I was asleep at the time.
    WOD is shown before magnets were intermeshed and am currently running with about 85% mesh.
    Magnets are assymetrical Neos.
    The central support of Aluminium is placed so that items can sit in the centre of the VP area and the original contained a large Stainless Steel ball.

    Again, thankyou for the detail as a schematic is slowly being developed here.
    Apologies for interest in the Integratron but the CSI continues.

    When are we going to review the Extra Coil Maths as it is NOT in agreement with Teslas.
    Anyone who is building should also check what is there at the 17th turn on your Secondary and you will be surprised.
    Looks like I will build a 50 turn 11 awg (don't have a 9) Extra here to fit Tesla's real Math.

    Smokey
    Last edited by David G Dawson; 06-19-2012, 08:24 AM.

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  • SERG V.
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    Originally posted by T-rex View Post
    Tesla X-Ray

    Confusion seems to exist as to the nature of N Tesla's radiant matter efforts. This subject was of great importance to Tesla. All understanding here originates with the ideas of Sir W. Crookes, the inventor of the vacuum tube and thereby the grand uncle of atomic physics. Here is where to start, Crookes. What was Tesla's radiant matter anyway? Rest assured those who talk the most on this subject are the ones that know the least, a fundamental of human behavior. What is claimed to be Tesla is often rather the opposite. Presently, because of the efforts of certain individuals with engineering background, the established pseudo-Tesla mythos is dissolving. For those forces that despise Tesla, some with a pathological fervor, this requires a damage control operation on their part. Hence it can be expected, since the Bearden-Bedini axis has become QRU, a new much more advanced for of dis-info regarding Tesla may come about.

    Tesla's radiant matter is NOT composed of electrons, protons, or quarks. These are but mathematical abstractions. The starting point is the pre-Einstein work done in studying the Roentgen Ray and the phenomenon of the anode and cathode. (E.P. Thompson has a book on this . Vassilatos has several writings on Crookes.) Tesla's radiant matter would be in the form of "Le Sage" particles, or "Thompson Corpuscles", and components of the nucleus Mendelev pre-hydrogen aether gasses.

    Tesla exposed himself to massive intensities of his radiant output. From the electron volt standpoint he should of died a few weeks after these experiments. But he did not, why?

    Tesla utilized direct rays, these from a single element vacuum tube fed by a source of mono-polar electro static potential. This much like radiation from the sun, this is what Tesla was after, a sun in a bottle, lookout Edison! Today the X-Ray is derived from a reflected, not directed, source of radiation.

    Rather than rays we now have radiation. This is analogous to the primary induction from the sun producing visible light, or radiation, upon its impact with matter. Today the X-Ray tube has a heavy metal (Tungsten) anode. Rays from a thermionic (DC) cathode strike this anode, or target, giving rise to reflected photonic radiations that have been given the name X-Rays. Of course these "Einstein Rays" are destructive to living organisms, but the "Tesla Rays' are not. This is something to think about.

    73 DE N6KPH

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  • Nhopa
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    Extra coil tuning

    Originally posted by dR-Green View Post
    Shouldn't the test signal also be set to 1.188MHz?
    Actually I did set the test signal to 1,188 Kc, but there was no response from the meter at any capacity setting or can position. The posted data show the only response frequencies at which the meter reads a maximum. On my coil I have a tap at 49 1/2 turns. If I make that point the end of the coil then I am measuring through 124 1/4-49 1/2=74 3/4 turns, at this point I peak the meter at 1085 Kc, 30 uA, 14 pF, can at 5 cm. If I turn the coil 180 degrees and measure between the tap and the coil end, that is at 49 1/2 turns, then I measure 2033 Kc, 22 uA. Based on this it seems to me that the coil is over designed and the meter would give the max response at somewhere between 49 1/2 and 74 3/4 turns, most likely between 65 and 70 turns. Tesla himself often took turns off the extra coil in order to obtain the desired frequency. In his Colorado Springs Notes on page 80 in connection with the extra coil he states "...the actual length of wire being always smaller than the theoretical length...".
    I still find it strange that the ground connection has absolutely no effect on the reading, like it is not even necessary.

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  • Sputins
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    George Van Tassel

    There are some more radio interviews from George Van Tassel at this website along with some other pictures. Integratron's George Van Tassel and the Giant Rock Spaceship Conventions with George Hunt Williamson 1950s.

    Thank you for addressing or answering the "ET question" T-Rex. This was a question I've wanted to ask you but was too afraid to ask.. Lest one gets bitten..! The ET subject is probably for the most part, outside of the technical discussion and teaching going on here. - Although I have myself seen the odd sighting of 'strange' lights in the sky..

    I have been looking for a diagram, a model or a schematic of the Integatron. Lots of information around that all seems to be junk. Not much technical information around that really seems to be correct at all. Except for perhaps what George says himself. They all just mention 'Tesla' but really have no idea.

    So lets ask Mr Wizard.. Since you have probably the most knowledge on the subject than anyone on the planet. (From this planet anyway - Hehe).

    I have also been blown away. gob-smacked by the Electric universe together with the Gravity model you presented, the hollow Earth & planets with a "Farnsworth Star" inside.
    Also with the Longitudinal Rays or Primary rays, strike a surface (of Earth) and give off the transverse waves (secondary emissions). - These theories, if found to be true (and most likely are) just throws everything on its head, a complete dis-array!

    We have been so blind!

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  • madhatter
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    Originally posted by garrettm4 View Post
    I've had some very interesting things happen with neon bulbs in some of my experiments.

    Here's an outline of some personal observations:

    Blue/white.. Explosion, complete destruction of neon bulb glass cracked sometimes explosively, carbon electrode melted (has 5000C melting point!) The brightness is extreme and quite startling, something that you don't forget easily. Everything "solid-state" in circuit path is annihilated.

    Blue.......... Near failure, dangerous, good indication of extreme impulse passing through. I have never been able to examine the bulb for long enough to see if this is a ball plasma condition like the purple state. Generally, the circuit in which the bulb was shunting the energy away from fails epically, notably the switching power transistor and any power diodes present.

    Purple........ Ball plasma, quite stable if driven right, ball will float around but will stay within the confines of tube. Doesn't matter if it touches electrodes or not. Ironically bulb will remain quite cool but black sputterings appear where the ball plasma resides (electrode evaporation?). No failure of control circuit observed during many observations of this state.

    Red............ Extreme over-current, bulb will fail quite quickly, if not in seconds.

    Orange-red.. Over-current, operating at elevated currents, bulb will fail if left in this condition for too long.

    orange/pink. Operating in normal region, current is limited to safe levels, will operate indefinitely in this condition.

    Interesting effects are seen with gas discharge tubes, neon's and what not in impulse applications. I find the purple ball plasma and the blue light just before epic failure to be quite interesting. To get the ball plasma you need impulses of incredibly short duration and high potential, inductive discharges are the best. Frequency doesn't have to be that high, a few hertz can stimulate the ball plasma formation, but higher frequency causes greater stability. Cadacious windings with opposing currents produce extreme EMFs that can also excite the purple ball plasma state, "common mode" chokes work well in this regard.

    At one time I used the neon bulbs for over voltage protection in special circuits (diodes couldn't be used and bi-TVS had too much capacitance) and found them to be too slow. I now use MOVs which are much faster at switching. For those who are looking for the lowest shunt capacitance, the micro arc-gap surge suppressors from KOA Speer are an interesting solution to transient over voltage control, I've forgotten their response time but they are vastly superior to neon's and have less capacity than MOVs. GDTs are useful as well but are quite a bit larger than the micro arc-gaps, although they can shunt much more energy. The only problem with the GDTs and spark-gaps is radio noise emission, which can surprisingly be quite disruptive to TV reception and what not.

    Garrett M
    just what I was looking for.

    Had to repeat this a few times and it does form a 'flame front' of an unstable ball. the bulb is also left quite cold after too. no sputtering or damage yet, not that I'm going to keep doing it, was a curiosity mainly.

    OK, enough noise,back to the thread topic

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  • OrionLightShip
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    Originally posted by T-rex View Post
    Tesla utilized direct rays, these from a single element vacuum tube fed by a source of mono-polar electro static potential.
    a source of mono-polar electrostatic potential....

    This is what it is said that Avramenko used in his one wire transmission system. How did he do it?

    If the group, following his death, switched to tesla coil methods, then what was Avramenko using to begin with?

    Perhaps close scrutiny of his russian patents would yield the answer. Is there anyone here that is an expert in finding russian patents? Help would be greatly appreciated in this matter.

    Orion

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  • garrettm4
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    NE-2 Neon Bulb Notes

    I've had some very interesting things happen with neon bulbs in some of my experiments.

    Here's an outline of some personal observations:

    Blue/white.. Explosion, complete destruction of neon bulb, glass cracked sometimes explosively, carbon electrode melted (has 3500C melting point!) The brightness is extreme and quite startling, something that you don't forget easily. Everything "solid-state" in circuit path is annihilated.

    Blue.......... Near failure, dangerous, good indication of extreme impulse passing through. I have never been able to examine the bulb for long enough to see if this is a ball plasma condition like the purple state. Generally, the circuit in which the bulb was shunting the energy away from fails epically, notably the switching power transistor and any power diodes present.

    Purple........ Ball plasma, quite stable if driven right, ball will float around but will stay within the confines of tube. Doesn't matter if it touches electrodes or not. Ironically bulb will remain quite cool but black sputterings appear where the ball plasma resides (electrode evaporation?). No failure of control circuit observed during many observations of this state.

    Red............ Extreme over-current, bulb will fail quite quickly, if not in seconds.

    Orange-red.. Over-current, operating at elevated currents, bulb will fail if left in this condition for too long.

    Orange-pink. Operating in normal region, current is limited to safe levels, will operate indefinitely in this condition.

    Unusual effects are seen with gas discharge tubes, neon's and what not in impulse applications. I find the purple ball plasma and the blue light just before failure to be the most interesting. To get the ball plasma you need impulses of incredibly short duration and high potential, inductive discharges are the best. Frequency doesn't have to be that high, a few hertz can stimulate the ball plasma formation, but higher frequency causes greater stability. Cadacious windings with opposing currents produce extreme EMFs that can also excite the purple ball plasma state, "common mode" chokes work well in this regard.

    At one time I used the neon bulbs for over voltage protection in special circuits (diodes couldn't be used and bi-TVS had too much capacitance) and found them to be too slow. I now use MOVs which are much faster at switching. For those who are looking for the lowest shunt capacitance, the micro arc-gap surge suppressors from KOA Speer are an interesting solution to transient over voltage control, I've forgotten their response time but they are vastly superior to neon's and have less capacity than MOVs. GDTs are useful as well but are quite a bit larger than the micro arc-gaps, although they can shunt much more energy. The only problem with the GDTs and spark-gaps is radio noise emission, which can surprisingly be quite disruptive to TV reception and what not.

    Garrett M
    Last edited by garrettm4; 05-26-2012, 02:40 PM.

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  • dR-Green
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    Originally posted by Nhopa View Post
    Extra coil was made for 20 turn secondary for 1,188 Kc.
    These are the results using Eric's recommended tuning setup.
    Function generator Wavetek FG2 A, set to 1M sine wave
    Shouldn't the test signal also be set to 1.188MHz?

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  • madhatter
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    Thanks for sharing that Eric.

    Question for those more familiar with neon bulbs, in working with the capacitor/trans core circuit it will easily light a neon bulb. the bulb I have is of unknown age, it glows a pretty soft orange all the way up to 100v so far. I was experimenting with a circuit layout and noticed the bulb would slowly increase it's rate of off time between flashes, then it stopped. taking another ground lead and touching the neon tube on the anode would cause a blinding purple/white flash at which point it resumes the soft orange flashing. assumption is that the capacitor is slowing charging and the bulb stops once it's fully charged. however it shouldn't do this and I was not aware of neon bulb being able to flash so brightly in the white-purple spectrum.

    maybe this is normal, not sure thought I'd ask. it looks like a basic clear neon bulb. the flash is very odd, I can charge a cap up to 120v and discharge is thru the bulb it only flashes orange/red. not sure what's going on?

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  • t-rex
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    Tesla X-Ray

    Confusion seems to exist as to the nature of N Tesla's radiant matter efforts. This subject was of great importance to Tesla. All understanding here originates with the ideas of Sir W. Crookes, the inventor of the vacuum tube and thereby the grand uncle of atomic physics. Here is where to start, Crookes. What was Tesla's radiant matter anyway? Rest assured those who talk the most on this subject are the ones that know the least, a fundamental of human behavior. What is claimed to be Tesla is often rather the opposite. Presently, because of the efforts of certain individuals with engineering background, the established pseudo-Tesla mythos is dissolving. For those forces that despise Tesla, some with a pathological fervor, this requires a damage control operation on their part. Hence it can be expected, since the Bearden-Bedini axis has become QRU, a new much more advanced for of dis-info regarding Tesla may come about.

    Tesla's radiant matter is NOT composed of electrons, protons, or quarks. These are but mathematical abstractions. The starting point is the pre-Einstein work done in studying the Roentgen Ray and the phenomenon of the anode and cathode. (E.P. Thompson has a book on this . Vassilatos has several writings on Crookes.) Tesla's radiant matter would be in the form of "Le Sage" particles, or "Thompson Corpuscles", and components of the nucleus Mendelev pre-hydrogen aether gasses.

    Tesla exposed himself to massive intensities of his radiant output. From the electron volt standpoint he should of died a few weeks after these experiments. But he did not, why?

    Tesla utilized direct rays, these from a single element vacuum tube fed by a source of mono-polar electro static potential. This much like radiation from the sun, this is what Tesla was after, a sun in a bottle, lookout Edison! Today the X-Ray is derived from a reflected, not directed, source of radiation.

    Rather than rays we now have radiation. This is analogous to the primary induction from the sun producing visible light, or radiation, upon its impact with matter. Today the X-Ray tube has a heavy metal (Tungsten) anode. Rays from a thermionic (DC) cathode strike this anode, or target, giving rise to reflected photonic radiations that have been given the name X-Rays. Of course these "Einstein Rays" are destructive to living organisms, but the "Tesla Rays' are not. This is something to think about.

    73 DE N6KPH
    Last edited by t-rex; 05-25-2012, 10:45 PM.

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  • t-rex
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    Van Tassel Says

    We have the seemingly empty statement by George Van Tassel T equals one over F. So what, a simple inverse just like R equals one over G, right? Lets ask Joe Blow!

    Transference from the dimensional relation of frequency to time is very problematic. This is the home of French math, La'Place and Fourier, great for torturing young minds but of dubious engineering value except for established special cases. But like LSD it works different ways for different people .Oliver Heaviside tried to lead us out of this condition but he was not a good teacher of his ideas. (See E.M. Theory, "Waves of Pure Diffusion").

    The notion came about in my Bell telephone education that the original Fourier concept included backward time frequencies, but these have been ignored to placate the Einsteiner. My Bell telephone research at the Landers installation further indicates a back in time wave exists in the study of broadband carrier telephone systems. Is it not a coincidence that Van Tassel says this in kind of a round about way? Quite possibly his co-workers were on to something. Consider this observation. A television signal several years old broadcast in America, is received in England. How did this happen? The Einsteiner comes up with many explanations but none that can work. My own theory is this: some disorder in the tuning of VHF television power amplifier energizing the broadcast antenna gave rise to a parasitic oscillation.This could be like that of the Caduceus oscillator, possibly, and launched itself through time into the future. To me that is just as plausible as the other theories of bouncing around in space for years, this being unlikely because of its transit attenuation.

    73 DE N6KPH

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