3 Battery Generating System

[FRC]

Dave, I was going to try that but ended up getting distracted and forgot to try it.
If I try the 2BGS again I will try it. I still prefer the 3BGS since it is more
robust and has more potential.

George

[Turion]

All,
I haven't gotten Matt's new schematic built yet, and it will be a couple days before I get the resistors I ordered, although I am off to the electronics store today to see if they have anything in stock (FAT chance!).

Sooooo, I don't know what this change in the schematic does to what I believe is the generative power of the motor and the ability of the system to run loads (in balance) off both the motor AND battery three. Frankly, I would settle for the power to run the motor for FREE as Matt has done. Wouldn't you? That would be an incredible achievement, and one that will rock the world.

But I also do not want to lose sight of the fact that the original system ran amazing loads off of the motor AND battery three. To me that is kind of the "Gold Standard" which we may never, ever achieve. Don't know if the new schematic will do that, but does it really matter? The really exciting part for me is that this gives us a couple different directions to go. Develop what Matt has given us which we KNOW works, and still research to see if we can replicate the original. A bird in the hand is worth a whole flock in the bush, and many of us have been chasing the free energy fairy through the forest for years with nothing to show for it but pixy dust in our pockets instead of the gold coins that used to be there. I could not be happier or more excited, and I'm so appreciative of all of you who have put time and effort into this, and especially Matt for sharing what he came up with.

Dave

[FRC]

Dave

Thanks to you too for sharing this with us. I find it also strange that there are
not more people trying this. There are so many others endlessly working on
different complicated circuits and devices that require very precise standards
in order to work. And here is something that offers a lot of latitude and ease
to make operate, at least to some extent. Also this is looking like it could be
close to the "holy grail" of free energy everyone is looking for, and yet it is
being overlooked. When will more people start taking notice?

George

[albertMunich]

the last developments sound really interesting.
I have tried two identical 12 to 18 Volt dremel tools. connected them very simply by putting a drill in one of the chucks and clamping the other chuck to it. I never could get more than 7 to 8 volts out of the one that ran as a generator. It lit up my car lamp though, so there must have been some current. what is the output Voltage you are getting on your generator side? Can you charge both primary batts at once?
Will try the idea to drain the dead battery first. And if I can get a decent motor I will try Matts system, too.

I have tried a Bedini run off the two positives and it charged a fourth battery nicely while not putting too much of a drain on the primaries. Have not done any measurements yet.
This is really interesting!

Great work and happy experimenting

Albert

[Matthew Jones]

Davids Setup

Hey guys

As promised a video of the setup I am running. I will post a follow up video after a 5 hour test. This one has been running since 11:00 am this morning and I will run it till 4 pm. By the time the video uploads it will be around 6 pm my time.

I left switch off but I am sure now it needs it. The voltages are dropping a bit more than I would like to see but the batteries still may recover completly.

Also the resistor is 1/2 ohm 200 watt (2 1 ohm 100 watt in parrallel).

I will try to get a back charge system built sometime over the weekend and show you how you can back charge the batteries, and still run a load. Right now I am burning all the extra power from the generator off. Which is OK considering I ran last night 3.5 hours and lost onlt 1/100 out of 1 battery. That very well may be temprature related.

Like I said I'll post follow up later.

Enjoy
Matt

[Matthew Jones]

ooops

Forgot the link to the video

Davids 3 batt system_Straight Setup - YouTube

Matt

[Turion]

Thanks Matt!!!

As Hannibal Smith used to say " I love it when a plan comes together."
(That's for you closet A-Team fans out there)

Dave

[FRC]

Any Face Or Mr T quotes Dave ? Just kidding. Yes it looks good. Those
batteries look like the one big bad battery that I have. Great setup Matt.

George

[Turion]

FRC

Any Face Or Mr T quotes Dave ? Just kidding. Yes it looks good. Those
batteries look like the one big bad battery that I have. Great setup Matt.

George

Mr T. "I pity the fool"
Face ...I have no idea
Howling Mad Murdoc..I'm a blank
I collect old TV series as a hobby, so I have all these episodes of stuff I haven't seen since I was a kid. Some day when I can no longer crawl down the stairs to my workshop in the basement, I'll sit around on my butt and watch them all. Right now I get in a couple hours of old TV shows every morning while I walk on my wife's treadmill. (I'm trying to kill it so I can get the motor!)

Dave

[Guruji]

2motors

Thanks Matt for posting ur result and circuit. I can't wait to replicate, if I can find the parts , it's very hard to get transistors, resistors etc exactly having the same specs here in the Philippines

Anyways here the video uploads

the 3bat system test2 shows eratic reading behavior from my meters, this one is the burned 12 volt motor. bat1 and bat2 voltage is 11.82v, after shutting it off the meter read 11.52. but after 10 min. bat1 and bat2 recovered the gained voltage 12.05.


3bat system test2 - YouTube

3bat system test3 again shows unstable readings using digital meters if and only if I use the small 12 volt motor. its standing voltage is 12.05 now

3bat system test3 - YouTube

2Bat system test1, I've tried last night the 2 bat system, and it work wonderfully I tested it using 2 3volt motors, and the same effect happened
I think to make this effect happen the total voltage of bat1 and bat2 should be the same as your running motor. if bat1 and bat2 has a total of 12 volts then run it with a 12 volt motor or lesser. More CEMF is collected because the rpm is maximized using smaller motors. more CEMF is fed to the system. That's just thought though, I'm no expert just sharing

2bat system test1 - YouTube

Thanks Sanskara for sharing. Two motors in series? Interesting that you've said regarding matching total voltage.

[boguslaw]

Dont know if this was "a winner" but I'll post for your consideration

Electrolytic would be fine if they could stand voltage spikes up to 10kV. Do you know any ? Of course we don't know any such and this is by purpose I think.... The problem with Tesla condensers is they are for kV but also not much capacitance. However I bet there is a way to join Tesla condenser with what we have in electrolytic capacitors and create one which has high capacitance and suitable for HV spikes. Ideal to store radiant energy in high amounts. Anyway, back to the topic...

[Sanskara316]

@Guruji Yup their in series, I needed a 6 volt motor, because in the 2bat system only bat1 supplies the voltage of 6 volts, that's why I decided to put 2 3volt motors in series, it gives out its maximum rpm, and my meters run wild in this configuration, but loading a higher spec motor don't give that effect. Just sharing my observations

[Sanskara316]

@FRC yeah thanks It worked really well, I'll try to put loads in bat3 and load on the motors, there's so many things we could try in this system, I really hope Matt's circuit works, If that happen will all be free from the grid forever.

[kcarring]

interesting thread! I just watched the intro video. "the friend" operating his. wow. does that come with an operators manual?

bizzare effect indeed.

@FRC you say you burnt out your cfl circuits? i recently did a 6V 300mA ac adapter 555 oscillator that worked quite nicely and should provide you with good cfl lighting on this unit, if in fact your scanner driver was of the right load, etc. no costly parts no centre tap needed. less juice than the scanner circuits too, if i recall they were about 300 mA. I wonder if you could somehow create iron plates to build a stable "dead battery" replacement, high impedence using SO2 binds in monodentate fashion that'd kind of look like a bob boyce cell when you were done.

[Turion]

It works. You can count on that. We just need a better switch than the MJL's to handle the spikes. Mosfetts will do that, so I'm sure you can expect something from Matt the first chance he gets. I'll be trying it myself tomorrow, since I have a box of Mosfetts sitting there doing nothing and time on my hands. We shouldn't be waiting around for Matt, we should be trying things on our own and providing HIM with information so he has better ideas which directions to look. So order yourselves some big resistors and a few Mosfetts and join the party.

I have this bad habit of copying and pasting bits of information under topic headings in my files and I ran across this piece of info off the forum. I keep thinking about how it would apply here or COULD be applied here..
"What i wanted to do was take advantage of the inductive spike because it does not seem to loose strength as it travels through a conductor unlike normal hot current. I also noticed that depending on the load after the extra inductor, dictates how much current is generated in that inductor. The other thing to think about is, the extra inductor now also produces it's own inductive spike from the main inductive spike without any waste. When the main spike creates a dipole across the coil in series with the charge battery, current flows, creating a magnetic field in the extra coil. The spike is a very fast pulse with a nice sharp off so there is time for the field to collapse creating another spike and it seems to be free of charge because the charge battery sees all of it as if the inductor was never there "

Dave