3 Battery Generating System

[Matthew Jones]

Well I'm Humbled.

Dave's working and we'll find that little thing that kicks it off.

Thanks
Matt

[Turion]

I'm here,
and I have had mine running with the two cap setup and pulsing my cap at just under 50 volts. I have been reorganizing my workshop so I have room to work on this, one other project, and the batteries that I am converting over to alum. Hard to do all that in 630 cubic feet of space which contains every tool I own and two dogs. I have no room to spare for anything, so it will take me a couple more days to get organized enough to start posting results. What Matt has shared about the Alum batteries is spot on. It is kind of hard to believe unless you see it with your own eyes.

I keep tuned in to the thread on my phone at least once an hour.

Dave

[ehsanco1062]

Ehsan,

You have to adjust both pulsout commands equally. This is why you are not gaining voltage in your cap faster because you have no OFF time to create the spikes.

Try using this:

SW VAR Word 
SW = 0

DO UNTIL SW = 100
  PULSOUT 0, 1500 ' this is your ontime
  PULSOUT 10,1200 ' this is your offtime when the spikes are created.
  SW = (SW + 1)
LOOP

Then adjust from there.

Now the goal is to adjust the on and off time so you have an equal spacing or 50% duty cycle. But the DO and LOOP command add to the OFF time. So you can start making them equal then adjust your time as needed according to your scope.

You follow me?

Matt

Hi Matt

These are the codes I am using
sw=160
Pulsout 0,7500
Pulsout 0,7000

I have cap charge up to 50v and the duty cycle 50% but I can not get it faster I think as I told you I need bigger load maybe 100w and I cannot reach this value with charge battery I can get it only with drill motor .
What do you recommend?
I will post video later.

Ehsanco

[ehsanco1062]

Hi all

here is the video:

scalar charger part 3 - YouTube

Ehsan

[ehsanco1062]

Hi Dave

I am gald you are here I still thinking that two caps setup can work fine but I lost one of my fets so that's why I stick with the one cap setup for the time being but I will try again the two caps setup when I will get another fet.
My work shop is my wifes kitchen and she gave me only two months to end my experiments and after that I have to stop every thing because we expecting to have a baby in September thats why I try to speed up the process and maybe pushing a little on Matt .I wish I have even less room that you have to keep on working but it's just an apartment and I couldn't find any other place to go, but can you tell me about the Alum battery ?

Ehsan

[wingstalysis]

Brushed DC Motor

Greetings,
I have been experimenting with some success using the following motors. They are used in Black and Decker cordless drills. They can be purchased from t-swifty on ebay. He also gives a data sheet, which also you can get from the Johnson motor website easily. This is an inexpensive way to start experimenting. Hope this helps your pocket, and your experiments. Take it easy, and stay frosty.
Johnson 600 size Model Boat Electric Motor 6-12v | eBay

[Turion]

wingstalysis,

You ever get your scooter running?

[IndianaBoys]

Finger Regeneration

Put your lead on the drain of the serial FET (Between the 2 primaries) and ground on the source of that fet.

I have been messing around with this thing a bit but its been hard the last couple of days, I cut my finger off at work. So... I am dumb ass but that how it goes.

Matt

Hi Matt,

Sorry to hear about your finger. Whenever I see you post something I think about what could be done for your finger and while searching for something dis-related to that, this came up:

Complete Tissue & Bone

10. Finger Regeneration: Once, when at a convention in the Northwest, a beautiful young lady came up to Dr. Christopher and his son, David. "How do you like my fingers?", she asked. They were well taken care of and the nails were done nicely. Dr. Christopher said, "Fine," and she asked, "Can you tell which finger has been cut off?" They couldn't tell. She showed him the finger that had been cut off; she used the BF & C, and the knuckle grew back, and the bone and flesh grew back in. The nail, which had been completely gone, grew back on, as pretty as the others. This was a truly unusual case of healing. [EWH p.11] BF & C = Bone Flesh & Cartilage Formula, now called Complete Tissue & Bone Formula.

I have no personal experience as the above relays, but I do have experience with different protocols of Dr. Christopher's and do find them of value. One is the 3-Day Cleanse & Mucusless Diet:
3-Day Cleanse & Mucusless Diet by Dr. John R Christopher

Maybe the above formula will be of help to you in some way.

IndianaBoys

[wingstalysis]

Hey!

wingstalysis,

You ever get your scooter running?

Thanks for asking Bro'. Yes, but, I used and adapted an off the shelf 12vdc Bedini radiant battery trickle charger which I bought off Ebay.It has 24vdc input.
I have been watching your progress, and I'm happy to see Matt is assisting you, He's a really gifted bro'. I did get in touch with Mr. Lindemann on your behalf, but, guess he is too busy to assist you. Your persistance will payoff Dave.

[Matthew Jones]

Hi Matt

These are the codes I am using
sw=160
Pulsout 0,7500
Pulsout 0,7000

I have cap charge up to 50v and the duty cycle 50% but I can not get it faster I think as I told you I need bigger load maybe 100w and I cannot reach this value with charge battery I can get it only with drill motor .
What do you recommend?
I will post video later.

Ehsanco

Go ahead and start the regular code and see how she performs. Maybe if you can get a bigger load...? Who knows.

I didn't make much progress today, I had to clean up a bit. Seems the black widows have moved into the shop, and with my luck lately.... so I went to war with some bug bombs (as much as i hated too). I'll air it out in the morning a get busy.

I have some ideas as to why this thing is so low power. I'll check them out and let ya know.

Matt

[ehsanco1062]

Go ahead and start the regular code and see how she performs. Maybe if you can get a bigger load...? Who knows.

I didn't make much progress today, I had to clean up a bit. Seems the black widows have moved into the shop, and with my luck lately.... so I went to war with some bug bombs (as much as i hated too). I'll air it out in the morning a get busy.

I have some ideas as to why this thing is so low power. I'll check them out and let ya know.

Matt

Hi Matt

When I try to do the test with the new code I couldn't see any oscillation on my scop I thought that Fet 1 went down but when I test it I found that it work fine so I suspect that it might be some thing wrong with the power board because the Basic stamp work fine so I start to check the board I found that the voltage camping to the board is 1.2v so I directly go to the battery that is powering the basic stamp and the power board and when I check its voltage it was 3.5v so there is something wrong in the circuit that make the battery go way down to this voltage and I am using 7.2Ah SLA battery new one .
So I change it with a new one and then start the test with the code You post the final one but I change the SW counter to the value I get in my last test which was 160 and the Pulsout 0,7500and the ather Pulsout 10,7000but I am not sure about the Pulsout after High 1 so I use Pulsout 0,7000 but all the rest values are the same and here is the result :
The motor start for a few seconds and the cap continue charging and exeding 50 and keep on untill almost 90 and it didn't dump so I stop the test by cutting the power to the basic stampand I haven't noticed that the bulbs load lits so why the cap didn't damp ?
You said you will see about the low power and ather issue is why the battery powering the stamp and the board dropped down?

Ehsan

[ehsanco1062]

Hi all

These are the codes I am using:


SW VAR Word 'Serial Switch count
CD VAR Word 'Cap Dump Count
DO
CD = 0
DO UNTIL CD = 1
SW = 0
DO UNTIL SW = 160
PULSOUT 0, 10 ' 7500
PULSOUT 0,7000
SW = (SW + 1)
LOOP
CD = CD + 1
IF CD = 1 THEN
HIGH 1
PULSOUT 0, 7000 (then in the second test I used 10 instead of 7000)
PAUSE 1
LOW 1
ENDIF
LOOP
LOOP


Ehsan

[Matthew Jones]

Hi Matt

When I try to do the test with the new code I couldn't see any oscillation on my scop I thought that Fet 1 went down but when I test it I found that it work fine so I suspect that it might be some thing wrong with the power board because the Basic stamp work fine so I start to check the board I found that the voltage camping to the board is 1.2v so I directly go to the battery that is powering the basic stamp and the power board and when I check its voltage it was 3.5v so there is something wrong in the circuit that make the battery go way down to this voltage and I am using 7.2Ah SLA battery new one .
So I change it with a new one and then start the test with the code You post the final one but I change the SW counter to the value I get in my last test which was 160 and the Pulsout 0,7500and the ather Pulsout 10,7000but I am not sure about the Pulsout after High 1 so I use Pulsout 0,7000 but all the rest values are the same and here is the result :
The motor start for a few seconds and the cap continue charging and exeding 50 and keep on untill almost 90 and it didn't dump so I stop the test by cutting the power to the basic stampand I haven't noticed that the bulbs load lits so why the cap didn't damp ?
You said you will see about the low power and ather issue is why the battery powering the stamp and the board dropped down?

Ehsan

Obviously the Fet that dumps the cap is not firing. If your battery running the Fet driver board is dropping too 3.5 volt you must have short or a dead battery.

You'll have to get that FET firing. You can write piece of code to make it fire based on the channel your on. Then look at it with the continuity meter.

Some times those little black box's on the driver board go bad. You can check them while a battery is hooked up.

Basically your Fet is not turning on so your going to have to diagnose whats wrong. If I were there it would take about a seconds worth of time....but I'm not so you gotta find out whats wrong.

This issue I was looking at is why you cannot charge a battery while running this thing. Something is wrong there or needs modified.

Matt

[ehsanco1062]

Obviously the Fet that dumps the cap is not firing. If your battery running the Fet driver board is dropping too 3.5 volt you must have short or a dead battery.

You'll have to get that FET firing. You can write piece of code to make it fire based on the channel your on. Then look at it with the continuity meter.

Some times those little black box's on the driver board go bad. You can check them while a battery is hooked up.

Basically your Fet is not turning on so your going to have to diagnose whats wrong. If I were there it would take about a seconds worth of time....but I'm not so you gotta find out whats wrong.

This issue I was looking at is why you cannot charge a battery while running this thing. Something is wrong there or needs modified.

Matt

Hi Matt

I am sure you are right there must be some short here because this is happened for the second time the problem is how to find that short?
It’s not easy for me to eliminate that short like you, but since we are using two lines of the driving board what you think if i change the wires of the second FET that goes to the driving board to another line on the driving board and see if it will work then the previous line were shorted.

Ehsan

[Matthew Jones]

Ya thats what I was saying. Use another channel.

Also Hook the 12 volt battery up to your board. Get data sheet on the DC to DC converter and measure the pins with your meter. One set of pins should have battery voltage and the other should have 15 volt. The datasheet will tell ya which ones to measure. If one has problem you can desolder it and replace it.

Matt