The electric field of a magnet

[Dave45]

When I studied the magnetron at first I thought it showed that energy could not be had by magnetic fields at all, but then I noticed that the magnetron is not using the magnetic field as an energy source but for its spin.

We can get energy from a magnetic field but we must lead off both ends, we can pull energy off a permanent magnet like this,

We do not need thorium, all you need is a permanent magnet.

[Dave45]

Thought I would study on how a magnetron works, very interesting we need to study whats happening here, proven tech.
This looks like a generator, just needs some wires

Radar Basics - Magnetron

[Dave45]

Alexg800 posted this circuit in the Bitoroid thread

which is basically a zvs using transistors, I do have the components to build this
It can be switched using npn instead of pnp transistors, this is gonna be fun

[Dave45]

I wonder how efficient the zvs would be at splitting water since it is a resonant circuit

[Dave45]

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[Dave45]

Something I noticed with the cw and ccw coils, powering them from the center out, if I run neg through both coils I get two magnetic fields but if one is neg and one is pos, one field.
If both were powered neg I got no charge on the plate, but if one is neg and one is pos the plates charged

That led to this

[Dave45]

Hey good reading MM I dont think much got by Tesla, He dreamed of free electricity for a free world but we know that can never happen so we must build small generators for individuals for everyone.

Vtech good to hear your still goin strong, this circuit has potential if we can find the right combination of coils, shorted coils or magnets.
Work has been slow so just payen the bills for now but it will pick up soon and I will be building this circuit, I have posted some idea's to try.
The problem with using coils without a toroidal core is they radiate. a toroid keeps the coils from radiating because the electric aspect of the field is attracted to the magnetic field that is inclosed in the toroid, providing its not overpowered.

[blackchisel97]

Thank you Monsieur M, good reading

I took a break from other experiments and hooked up my 8" dia 12ga bifilar Tesla coil to ZVS circuit (common to the choke). I got it oscillating and pulling 0.18A @ 12V DC. I made half a size (4") pancake coil (same wire) with 0.1uF across and 20W bulb. I need to measure but the bulb seems as bright as powered from 12VDC but total draw is only 1A which equals 12W. Probably just an illusion. I have beautiful sine on the output, measuring 18V on the scope. Output frequency is 76kHz. Very nice inductive coupling with such small output coil. I knew that Tesla bifilar works great as transmitter and wonder what would happen if I'll use identical bifilar as a receiver
Dave, I will try your idea with ground.

Update; I got both Tesla Bifilar Coils for primary and secondary. Much better coupling. I have to move secondary over an inch from primary because the bulb is getting too bright. Right capacitor across secondary makes a big difference.
Also (Just for fun) tried 5" ferrite rod with 120T secondary and two 20T primaries in series. Lighting 110VAC 3W LED light no problem. 40mA draw without a load and 110mA with the bulb connected at 9VDC supply. AC out with a load 110V on the scope.
I want to test this circuit with different primaries on large ferrite toroid. I have to make some kind of spools so they can be moved and spaced apart around the circumference.
I tried Dave's idea with ground but nothing extraordinary so far. A few more variations to try.
Vtech

[MonsieurM]

Dave thought this might interest you ..... as you know .... love to go back to the Master to find new clues

Terrestrial stationary waves - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

References

Elmore, Glenn, "Introduction to the Propagating Wave on a Single Conductor," Corridor Systems Inc., 2009.

E*field direction

The solution to the wave equation for the propagating TM mode produces a non*zero
longitudinal component of the E*field. This is in contrast to the solution for the TEM
mode in coax which produces only a transverse E*field.

[blackchisel97]

I really like this circuit as you can tell
I was thinking this morning we want to draw in from the aether or ground maybe we are trying to do it on the wrong side of the coils.

If we use a resistor that passes just enough juice to get the system oscillating with a small load then a larger load should pull from the ground or kill the oscillation
Its worth a shot

dave

Hi Dave. It is a neat circuit which can be controlled by input V and parallel capacitor. I built Negative Ion Generator using flyback and small induction heater using this ZVS. I have persistent thought to try it with Tesla bifilar coil coupled with primary. Just finished bifilar last night but need to come up with primary design. Something similar to the idea being tested by JLN and Romero but using tunable primary instead of induction cooker. I also did brief test with 120mmm toroid which I used for different experiment while ago. It has three primaries spaced around circumference. I accidentally touched one lead from unused primary to one side of primaries connected to the circuit and oscillations went up lighting 110V LED hooked up to the secondary. I'm busy with other projects at the moment but can't let this idea go for some reason.

Thanks
Vtech

[Dave45]

I really like this circuit as you can tell
I was thinking this morning we want to draw in from the aether or ground maybe we are trying to do it on the wrong side of the coils.

If we use a resistor that passes just enough juice to get the system oscillating with a small load then a larger load should pull from the ground or kill the oscillation
Its worth a shot

dave

[Dave45]

Ever wonder why hurricanes spin ccw in the norther hemisphere and cw in the Southern

[Dave45]

Here's something interesting look at the last pic
Of interest is the cw coil the applied current moves to the right as it moves through the coil making the top N.

[Dave45]

depends which side you lead off from

[Dave45]

I believe Ed Leedskalnin when he said magnetism is electricity but you have to understand a magnet has two fields a static magnetic field and an electric A vector field.
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