3D electromagnetic field

[ewizard]

xenomorph, Isn't what Mike is suggesting different than bucking coils. When I think of bucking coils with the Muller gen I think of one coil on top being wound one way and the one on the bottom below the magnet being wound the other way. But I don't think that is what Mike is suggesting here. Rather it sounds like two sets of wires on one coil with one wound CW and one CCW and the start ends hooked together as one connection point while the ending wires hooked together as the other connection point with everything wound on the same core. I envision this as being a bit time consuming to wind and am not totally clear on how would be best to do this but it sounds possible and once I get it clear I'll give it a try.

Does what I describe here sound correct Mike?

[Xenomorph]

To create the 3rd dimensional field you have to create an ANTIPHASE in your coils in the case of for example the Muller motor/generator. Your electromagnets are wound from the center of your ferrite rod, two wires connected but wound in opposite directions and terminating at each end.

This will create the 3rd field which is a vortex field and NOTHING ELSE, from this you can design your motor/generator. You will have zero Lenze effect and will only draw current for the driving circuit alone. It is ALL in winding the coils in ANTIPHASE to create a unique vortex field, I will leave the rest of the design of the motor/generator up to you, I will probably get shot for what I have told you.

Mike

What is your suggestion on how to exactly catch any usable energy from the antiphase situation?
Where do you see that realized in the Muller motor?
My antiphase experiments so far have not shown a way.
Also others that have built bucking coil Mullers have not seen anything unusual. There must be a bit more to it to "catch" it.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Mike, let me ask you this, being new to 3d electromagnetic theory, what is the link between Antiphase and Caduceus coil

thank you again for your invaluable input

As I have not done anything with a Caduceus coil, I can't say, I will look into it.

Mike

[MonsieurM]

To create the 3rd dimensional field you have to create an ANTIPHASE in your coils in the case of for example the Muller motor/generator. Your electromagnets are wound from the center of your ferrite rod, two wires connected but wound in opposite directions and terminating at each end.

This will create the 3rd field which is a vortex field and NOTHING ELSE, from this you can design your motor/generator. You will have zero Lenze effect and will only draw current for the driving circuit alone. It is ALL in winding the coils in ANTIPHASE to create a unique vortex field, I will leave the rest of the design of the motor/generator up to you, I will probably get shot for what I have told you.

Mike

Mike, let me ask you this, being new to 3d electromagnetic theory, what is the link between Antiphase and Caduceus coil

thank you again for your invaluable input

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Antiphase

To create the 3rd dimensional field you have to create an ANTIPHASE in your coils in the case of for example the Muller motor/generator. Your electromagnets are wound from the center of your ferrite rod, two wires connected but wound in opposite directions and terminating at each end.

This will create the 3rd field which is a vortex field and NOTHING ELSE, from this you can design your motor/generator. You will have zero Lenze effect and will only draw current for the driving circuit alone. It is ALL in winding the coils in ANTIPHASE to create a unique vortex field, I will leave the rest of the design of the motor/generator up to you, I will probably get shot for what I have told you.

Mike

[tutanka]

Thank you tutanka , for the image but you forgot one thing in it , the rotary motion of the electron itself (spin if you prefer )

Hello , that is vortex motion of electrons inside e-beam reactor

[MonsieurM]

Probably that help your mind to understand ... all is based on electrons and electrons are the key

Thank you tutanka , for the image but you forgot one thing in it , the rotary motion of the electron itself (spin if you prefer )

[tutanka]

Tesla also said:





besides the fact that the nervous system is Fractal (http://www.energeticforum.com/psychi...l-antenna.html )

Note: Neuronal Pulse = pulsed DC



linked this thread to my other threads

Probably that help your mind to understand ... all is based on electrons and electrons are the key

[MonsieurM]

Tesla also said:

Quite different conditions exist in my system in which the electromagnetic waves or radiations are designedly minimized. the connection of one of, the terminals of the transmitting circuit to the ground having, itself, the effect of reducing the energy of these radiations to about one-half, Under observance of 'proper rules and artifices the distance is of little or no consequence, and by skillful application of the principle of "individualization," repeatedly referred to the messages may be rendered both non-interfering and non-interferable. This invention, which I have described in technical publications, attempts to imitate, in a very crude way, the nervous system in the human body.' Nicolas Tesla

besides the fact that the nervous system is Fractal (http://www.energeticforum.com/psychi...l-antenna.html )

Note: Neuronal Pulse = pulsed DC



linked this thread to my other threads

[tutanka]

DC riding on a wave, like a surfer on a wave in the ocean, you have three things happening, DC riding on the wave which creates the forward power.

@Alex, the e-beam does not use complicated electronics, the frequencies are in the khz and as so do not need complicated electronics, but it has to be right and tuned to create the high current that is generated inside the molecules that you put in there.

The higher the current generated "which is riding on a wave", the greater the vibration of the molecule and the quicker it breaks, that is what happens with molecules, "molecular vibration".

What I am trying to show here is that this can be applied to the Muller generator and others and probably was in the original Muller generator.

What you have to do is create a higher current than the input current and that current comes from the third electromagnetic field, if you can call it that, or it will never self run. I am not into building motor generators at the moment, but I will give all the help I can to someone to build one.

Mike

Mike I refer to your 3D electromagnetic field, that need for work RF circuits and coils. I know how e-beam work including molecular vibration as you call but e-beam work also using only high voltage in khz frequency

[MonsieurM]

DC riding on a wave, like a surfer on a wave in the ocean, you have three things happening, DC riding on the wave which creates the forward power.


Mike

You just made my day

from http://www.energeticforum.com/143854-post16.html

the way i see it, the waves of oceans provides us with best hint on how energy is transfered from one antenna to the another. think of a surfer riding his wave, now what if i told you that the surfer is the energy you are trying to transfer and the wave is the coupled resonance of both antennas (you should not see both antennas as two separate bodies but actually as one "big wave" ready to be riden ).

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What I am trying to show here is that this can be applied to the Muller generator and others and probably was in the original Muller generator.

exactly my thoughts

Mike, I understand what you mean, it is probably high time to stop thinking in 2D and move into a 3D approach :

It means efficiency functioning on multiple levels and in multiple dimensions.

Years ago, I saw a web page explaining a CD conditioning technology by Bedini. He used a coil wrapped around a magnet (or Iron cores ) and there was a field that came off perpendicular that was used to treat the CD.
This may also fit with the idea that Tesla was moving towards pulsed DC, rather than AC, since pulsed DC would keep spinning the electrons in the same direction.

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Combination

so pulsed DC gives you the cycle....

DC riding on a wave, like a surfer on a wave in the ocean, you have three things happening, DC riding on the wave which creates the forward power.

@Alex, the e-beam does not use complicated electronics, the frequencies are in the khz and as so do not need complicated electronics, but it has to be right and tuned to create the high current that is generated inside the molecules that you put in there.

The higher the current generated "which is riding on a wave", the greater the vibration of the molecule and the quicker it breaks, that is what happens with molecules, "molecular vibration".

What I am trying to show here is that this can be applied to the Muller generator and others and probably was in the original Muller generator.

What you have to do is create a higher current than the input current and that current comes from the third electromagnetic field, if you can call it that, or it will never self run. I am not into building motor generators at the moment, but I will give all the help I can to someone to build one.

Mike

[MonsieurM]

this quote is right on the subject

from Contact:
S.R. Hadden

if you think like a Vegan. An alien intelligence is going to be more advanced. That means efficiency functioning on multiple levels and in multiple dimensions.

just like a Fractal Construct....

V.I.Korobejnikov does deserve a Nobel of physics, because when you start to wrap your mind around it (not yet there ), it is quite a revolutionary theory

[MonsieurM]

This may also fit with the idea that Tesla was moving towards pulsed DC, rather than AC, since pulsed DC would keep spinning the electrons in the same direction.

so pulsed DC gives you the cycle....



Note: Tesla interplanetary communication apparatus would probably make more sense in light of 3D electromagnetic field theory

SETI needs to retool its Receivers...

[tutanka]

Hi Alex, this does not relate directly to my ORIGINAL RF splitting of the water molecule, but it is related to the e-beam reactor in so much that the electric field and the magnetic field are created along with a third field "one of current" which does not come from the input power, it is created in free space between the atoms within that free space, hundreds of times more powerful than you could ever put into the input of your system.

Where does that power come from? well it comes from the stressed atoms without breaking them "if it did that would be a nuclear reaction and this is not ".

Yes I do keep things close to my chest and I am still alive I am the only one that knows how to make this e-beam reactor for molecular manipulation, as far as I know at the moment

The RF breaking of the water molecule was just the start of a long road to where I am today with the e-beam reactor, and I can see more work needed even though the system works as it is. If this is to go out into the world to be used, it will be in the best possible form so as not to be thrown to the wolves and devoured and to never be seen again.

This thread is for showing how this third field can be used in other ways in the quest for energy generation, it has been used, just that nobody really knows what it is or how it is made or how it can be used. Nothing to do with my RF OR E-BEAM REACTOR, well not here anyway.

This thread is to show the way, like a shining light, how and why you can get a magnetic pulse motor to self run, as an example lets keep it that way

Mike

Mike,
why use complicated RF circuit when for creation of fuel gas you can use simply high voltage and affordable mechanical parts? E-beam reactor with new source of electrons work great. Probably you are oriented to extract energy directly but isn't my goal at this time.