3D electromagnetic field

[skaght]

Years ago, I saw a web page explaining a CD conditioning technology by Bedini. He used a coil wrapped around a magnet and there was a field that came off perpendicular that was used to treat the CD. Years later, I've searched for that web page and have come up empty handed. However, I think it's the same field described here that was being used by Bedini years ago. If you pulse a coil, I would guess you'd get the same type field radiating off the sides as the magnetic field swirls in opposite directions through each loop of coil. Basically if you look at a solenoid, the turn above and the turn below an individual turn would act the same as the cylinders and coils demonstrated in the PDF you posted.

This may also fit with the idea that Tesla was moving towards pulsed DC, rather than AC, since pulsed DC would keep spinning the electrons in the same direction.

[MonsieurM]

Mike,

This appears to explain aspects of what I've been working on. I've been using pulsed coils to produce magnetic fields for healing. I initially assumed the strongest effects would come from the ends of the coil. Based on reading the link you provided, I surmised that it might actually be a magnetic field with infinite wavelength as described on the website, so the actual beneficial field is radiating off the sides of the coil. After some simple experiments, that seems to be the case. I'm really excited about designing further experiments to test out these concepts.

Thanks!!!!

i was just wondering about 3D electromagnetic field and coils.... I have three particular experiment i talked about and one of them uses Tesla coil ; Mike, I think you may be right about Tesla knowing about it...

the experiments i refer to are:

Francis E. WILKINSON: High-Frequency Transformations ( http://www.energeticforum.com/136338-post22.html )

Leon SPRINK:Space Activator (http://www.energeticforum.com/135946-post17.html )

and Tszyan KAN'CHZHEN: Microwave Transfer of Biological Information

http://www.energeticforum.com/136258-post21.html

for now...

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Thank you Mike for confirming my suspicions ..so the good news is we can explain Felix Ehrenhaft's experiment and now we have two applications to study and hopefully develop newer ones


I'll have to review all the experiments i talked about in my various threads and figure out if 3D electromagnetic field plays a major role in it (which i have the feeling that it is the missing piece of the puzzle)


note: Tesla's experiment may have to be relooked at with the 3D electromagnetic field in mind

Yes, I have a feeling that he knew all about this and never documented it or it was destroyed.

Mike

[MonsieurM]

Thank you Mike for confirming my suspicions ..so the good news is we can explain Felix Ehrenhaft's experiment and now we have two applications to study and hopefully develop newer ones


I'll have to review all the experiments i talked about in my various threads and figure out if 3D electromagnetic field plays a major role in it (which i have the feeling that it is the missing piece of the puzzle)


note: Tesla's experiment may have to be relooked at with the 3D electromagnetic field in mind

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Good example

you reminded me of

Felix Ehrenhaft: Magnetic Current --- 9 articles



pay attention to his set up and compare to the set up of the EH Antenna

That is a good example where current is created, "the 3D", in the molecular structure of water, and gess what, NO INPUT

Mike

[Xenomorph]

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Understanding what happens

If Mike have open and posted that pdf is because want help peoples to understand. But the main problem is that peoplecan't see inside Mike mind and for that reason is very difficult understand.. Simply Mike using that method solve some problems that surely have with old RF reactor.
Using that method you can process your water molecules in the middle of EM field and obtain in output your gas , that semplify previously method but my question is you obtain an high efficiency >90% during the reaction?
Im not sure of that because during my test the variable of time inside process is very important.

Hi Alex, this does not relate directly to my ORIGINAL RF splitting of the water molecule, but it is related to the e-beam reactor in so much that the electric field and the magnetic field are created along with a third field "one of current" which does not come from the input power, it is created in free space between the atoms within that free space, hundreds of times more powerful than you could ever put into the input of your system.

Where does that power come from? well it comes from the stressed atoms without breaking them "if it did that would be a nuclear reaction and this is not ".

Yes I do keep things close to my chest and I am still alive I am the only one that knows how to make this e-beam reactor for molecular manipulation, as far as I know at the moment

The RF breaking of the water molecule was just the start of a long road to where I am today with the e-beam reactor, and I can see more work needed even though the system works as it is. If this is to go out into the world to be used, it will be in the best possible form so as not to be thrown to the wolves and devoured and to never be seen again.

This thread is for showing how this third field can be used in other ways in the quest for energy generation, it has been used, just that nobody really knows what it is or how it is made or how it can be used. Nothing to do with my RF OR E-BEAM REACTOR, well not here anyway.

This thread is to show the way, like a shining light, how and why you can get a magnetic pulse motor to self run, as an example lets keep it that way

Mike

[MonsieurM]

i'm currently reading Maxwell in 3d and it comforts my views on the fractal Universe, and some of the posts i made in various threads

http://www.eh-antenna.com/EH_maxwell.pdf

A charged particle (mass - charge) is surrounded with an electromagnetic field making it complete. This applies to any body having mass and an electric charge (mass - charge). Generally, when there are charges moving in time or moving on a contour with a current in space surrounding them, there is a variable electromagnetic field. If these processes are periodic, the variable electromagnetic field will be a wave. [1] [2] [3]. All this applies to the full concerns and to such enormous concentrated mass, possessing electric charges (mass - charge), with the periodic law of movement, as planets, stars, galaxies. Much to our regret, lengths of electromagnetic waves (frequency) of such heavenly bodies are not reflected yet on a scale in directories and textbooks. Now practical frequencies are lower than 1 Hertz by 5-6 orders of magnitude and more (105106the hertz and is lower). These have been considered as constant electric current or in the general category of "static", but that basically is not true.

All this demands we consider any physical processes as occurring in an external electromagnetic field....
...in the universe there is no motionless point, and uniform, rectilinear movement in the pure state does not exist.

‪Solar system new interpretation‬‏ - YouTube

[MonsieurM]

If Mike have open and posted that pdf is because want help peoples to understand. But the main problem is that peoplecan't see inside Mike mind and for that reason is very difficult understand.. Simply Mike using that method solve some problems that surely have with old RF reactor.
Using that method you can process your water molecules in the middle of EM field and obtain in output your gas , that semplify previously method but my question is you obtain an high efficiency >90% during the reaction?
Im not sure of that because during my test the variable of time inside process is very important.

you reminded me of

Felix Ehrenhaft: Magnetic Current --- 9 articles

Can a magnet take water to pieces?

pay attention to his set up and compare to the set up of the EH Antenna

For his "impossible" experiment, Dr Ehrenhaft employs the simplest of apparatus. Two shiny rods of pure Swedish iron, sealed in holes through opposite sides of a U-shaped tube, resemble a setup familiar to high-school students for breaking up water into hydrogen and oxygen gases by passing electricity through it. And that is exactly what would happen if Dr Ehrenhaft attached electric wires from a battery to the rods. But, he does no such thing.

[MonsieurM]

From Mike's pdf doc:

Let us concentrate our attention on the simplest question: That will be, does an electric charge (electron) rotate? Such rotary dynamics of an electric charge (electron) will somehow be reflected in an electromagnetic field of this charge in space.

[tutanka]

I just had a quick look ...I read about it before here

Robert T. HART

EH Antenna



Robert hart -- EH Antenna

will definitely look into it

If Mike have open and posted that pdf is because want help peoples to understand. But the main problem is that peoplecan't see inside Mike mind and for that reason is very difficult understand.. Simply Mike using that method solve some problems that surely have with old RF reactor.
Using that method you can process your water molecules in the middle of EM field and obtain in output your gas , that semplify previously method but my question is you obtain an high efficiency >90% during the reaction?
Im not sure of that because during my test the variable of time inside process is very important.

[MonsieurM]

Have you guys come across

Maurice HATELY // Fathi KABBARY

Crossed Field Antenna

Maurice Hately, Fathi Kabbary, X-Field Antenna,US Patent 5,155,495



looks like it is using the same principle

[skaght]

Mike,

This appears to explain aspects of what I've been working on. I've been using pulsed coils to produce magnetic fields for healing. I initially assumed the strongest effects would come from the ends of the coil. Based on reading the link you provided, I surmised that it might actually be a magnetic field with infinite wavelength as described on the website, so the actual beneficial field is radiating off the sides of the coil. After some simple experiments, that seems to be the case. I'm really excited about designing further experiments to test out these concepts.

Thanks!!!!

[Iotayodi]

Thanks for the link MonsieurM.

[MonsieurM]

You are welcome, please make use of it

Mike

As you see from my motto " "You cannot invent, you can only discover" -

from this and the fact (a personal belief) that the Universe is fractal, this revolutionary discovery exist in nature at different scale....
...and you can tap into it.....this deserves some serious pondering...

Thank you Michael for this precious info