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  • No the field coil I made shorted in the water, the one I showed was a traditional wound Smith coil, but I did get the one I was working on wound

    This is the one that shorted so I didnt get to test it, but I may try again
    Last edited by Dave45; 08-16-2011, 01:36 PM.
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    • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
      No the field coil I made shorted in the water, the one I showed was a traditional wound Smith coil, but I did get the one I was working on wound

      This is the one that shorted so I didnt get to test it, but I may try again
      Is it possible to slip a copper tube filled with water inside the coil (like a core ) then freeze it

      why copper: http://www.energeticforum.com/151424-post312.html
      Last edited by MonsieurM; 08-16-2011, 01:48 PM.
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      • Yea when I made that one I didnt set it up for an ice core, I wont make that mistake again.

        Here's the one Im working on now got it wound yesterday I could only get two wraps one right one left, I ran out of wire, need to order some more.
        Its six inches long on one inch pvc I think Im going to leave one end open on the first freeze to see how much expansion I get.
        Last edited by Dave45; 08-16-2011, 02:54 PM.
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        • Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
          Is it possible to slip a copper tube filled with water inside the coil (like a core ) then freeze it

          why copper: http://www.energeticforum.com/151424-post312.html
          the copper core would be a good experiment, will give it a try, Iv tried a copper core before but without ice.
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          • Well I put this one in water again today, I ran the circuit different hopefully it will work this time, I really wanted to see the field.
            The ones with the pvc core are ok but you cant see the results.
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            • Originally posted by shawnnweed View Post
              At what voltage range does this effect begin? And how effective is this method of cooling? To be honest this is a new one on me.

              ,Shawn
              Electrostatic Cooling - Pro/Forums

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              • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                the copper core would be a good experiment, will give it a try, Iv tried a copper core before but without ice.
                should not be too hard to slide the iced core from the copper tube, and you maybe able to see the magnetic lines

                Last edited by MonsieurM; 08-16-2011, 09:50 PM.
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                • Originally posted by Dave45 View Post
                  Yea when I made that one I didnt set it up for an ice core, I wont make that mistake again.

                  Here's the one Im working on now got it wound yesterday I could only get two wraps one right one left, I ran out of wire, need to order some more.
                  Its six inches long on one inch pvc I think Im going to leave one end open on the first freeze to see how much expansion I get.

                  Excellent Idea, the displacement of ice would give an idea of the energy used for the expansion, however you should use a similar non coiled pvc tube of the same size filled with water to have an element for comparison

                  Note: avoid putting them both at the same time in the freezer , one may affect the other
                  Last edited by MonsieurM; 08-16-2011, 10:00 PM.
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                  • Barkhausen effect - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

                    The Barkhausen effect is a name given to the noise in the magnetic output of a ferromagnet when the magnetizing force applied to it is changed. Discovered by German physicist Heinrich Barkhausen in 1919, it is caused by rapid changes of size of magnetic domains (similarly magnetically oriented atoms in ferromagnetic materials).

                    Barkhausen's work in acoustics and magnetism led to the discovery, which provided evidence that magnetization affects whole domains of a ferromagnetic material, rather than individual atoms alone. The Barkhausen effect is a series of sudden changes in the size and orientation of ferromagnetic domains, or microscopic clusters of aligned atomic magnets (spins), that occurs during a continuous process of magnetization or demagnetization. The Barkhausen effect offered direct evidence for the existence of ferromagnetic domains, which previously had been postulated theoretically. Heinrich Barkhausen discovered that a slow, smooth increase of a magnetic field applied to a piece of ferromagnetic material, such as iron, causes it to become magnetized, not continuously but in minute steps.
                    Dave remember the shot gun noise you heard

                    Practical use

                    The amount of Barkhausen noise for a given material is linked with the amount of impurities, crystal dislocations, etc. and can be a good indication of mechanical properties of such a material. Therefore, the Barkhausen noise can be used as a method of non-destructive evaluation of the degradation of mechanical properties in magnetic materials subjected to cyclic mechanical stresses (e.g. in pipeline transport) or high-energy particles (e.g. nuclear reactor). Schematic diagram of a simple non-destructive set-up for such a purpose is shown on the right.
                    Barkhausen effect demonstration - YouTube

                    excellent method for fine tuning

                    Permeability of different materials - YouTube

                    Last edited by MonsieurM; 08-18-2011, 12:24 PM.
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                    • Here's the coil in ice you can see how it was connected,


                      Im going to connect it different and will show results.

                      Dave


                      You probably cant see it but in the original image there are lines radiating outward from the coil in a 360 degree radius
                      Last edited by Dave45; 08-18-2011, 05:11 PM.
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                      • MonsieurM, etal,

                        I made wrote an app to try and help myself understand what Rodin's numbers are all about...

                        Attached are some outputs when various number combinations are used.
                        My filenames, basically: add 1 or 8 means we keep on adding 1, then plotting the next point. In the first file, you can see that it is either going forwards (for 1) or backwards (for 8) around the edges of the circle.
                        See Rodin's page for more info.

                        If anybody else has a equation, formula, or set of numbers they would like to plot, then let me know. I'm a bit at a loss here...

                        How can we take this baby further??!

                        rodin_circles.jpg
                        ‎"It's all in the MIND"

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                        • Originally posted by StweenyA View Post
                          MonsieurM, etal,

                          I made wrote an app to try and help myself understand what Rodin's numbers are all about...

                          Attached are some outputs when various number combinations are used.
                          My filenames, basically: add 1 or 8 means we keep on adding 1, then plotting the next point. In the first file, you can see that it is either going forwards (for 1) or backwards (for 8) around the edges of the circle.
                          See Rodin's page for more info.

                          If anybody else has a equation, formula, or set of numbers they would like to plot, then let me know. I'm a bit at a loss here...

                          How can we take this baby further??!

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                          Excellent StweenyA , You have done us all a great favor, trust me they will discover its application soon enough

                          could you try it on Koch's Experiment the table is here http://www.energeticforum.com/149179-post146.html

                          Rodin math:

                          RodinAerodynamics.org - Marko Rodin - Rodin Coil
                          Last edited by MonsieurM; 08-18-2011, 11:23 PM.
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                          • correct link: http://www.energeticforum.com/148978-post135.html

                            also if you want to try it on the data available over at http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...merouk-40.html

                            but if you want to test this baby, let's try it on something most people know here ie: circuits , any circuit would do with the known variables you need

                            LC circuit for instance
                            Last edited by MonsieurM; 08-18-2011, 11:06 PM.
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                            • StweenyA,

                              I just realized, you have given us the tool to Apply the LAW of Correspondance, see Gnostic.Org: The Kybalion , a tool we are using to translate The Golden Tractate of Hermes Trismegistus ,

                              Signs and symbols rule the world, not words nor laws.” -Confucius.

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                              • btw, gosh, why did it distort my image so much kinda sad..

                                anyway, MonsieurM, in your post, I got the Kowsky Frost excel document. Do you basically want me to run those numbers in the circle?
                                ie, row #1 { 2, 5, 3, 1, 9, 1, 2 }, row #2 { 2, 5, 3, 9, 8, 3, 3 }, all at once? Or... what?

                                One thing I've noticed, how do they jump from the circle, to the torus? Something suspicious is going on here... We really need to get to the bottom of it!

                                And how can we make this thing 3D? I would love to make a model in OpenGL.
                                ‎"It's all in the MIND"

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