Trees as radiant energy collector

[MonsieurM]

you could also try to get inspired by the experiments, i posted previously. Take one set up and apply it to your plant.

vortex/spiral/ helix shape antenna is also used in Tszyan KAN'CHZHEN: Microwave Transfer of Biological Information experiment and also Otto MOHR Detonator Ray experiment (scifi )(post#37 of a better way to present periodic table).

The cone-shaped antenna on top gathers the sun’s magnetic force which has transformed inside the instrument to motivated vibratory currents. Otto MOHR Detonator Ray

one more argument to add goes as follow:

More on Why Tree Trunks Spiral

When I worked for NOM 's Environmental Research Labs in Boulder, we were once asked why lightning sometimes spirals down the trunk of a tree. While the answer was not proven, we observed that the path of least resistance might follow the spiral grain of the wood. I eventually found a tree with a spiral lightning mark and it followed the spiral grain exactly. One tree, of course, proves nothing.

link:

More on Why Tree Trunks Spiral, Alaska Science Forum

Thus the tree is your helix antenna

Enjoy

link to know more about helix antenna: (you'll find docs i posted on helix antenna)

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/7909-open-source-project-tesla-jackson-wireless-transmission.html

[MonsieurM]

Guys, I want you to know that i truly appreciate your efforts and interest.

Now that is way cool ! I might just try that.

So It will just oscillate if I adjust the capacitance ? I have two x three gang capacitors like he uses on the tree. I just bought them without knowing why. I suppose I have found something to do with them now.

....Cheers

I am not much of a believer in chance, they were meant to be bought by you

As for how i interpret the experiment, it all evolves around creating a zone of activation, or "matching resonance", synchronized oscillation if you prefer and it seems to require time (ref the links below)

if you read the following posts you'll understand what i mean by zone of activation:

http://www.energeticforum.com/135946-post17.html

http://www.energeticforum.com/136257-post20.html

http://www.energeticforum.com/136258-post21.html

http://www.energeticforum.com/136338-post22.html

Common thread is water, try to find it in each exp (sort of "where is waldo" kind of game )

Cheers

[Bizzy]

power from plants

Good morning everyone
Here are two of the youtube videos on the subject of power from plants I found a while ago
Through trialand error I determined that the first video used carbon abd magnesium rods.
The second one is a crewd set up but shows that it can work.
Instead of coils around the tree as MonsiuerM suggests I wonder is a simple metal band fastened 360 degrees around the tree wold work better. Just a thought.

As far as tree selection like i said I found solitaire high trees work better.
I am fortunate to have a ten acre hunting camp not far from my house so i can pick and chose the tree i use
Enjoy

Bizzy

YouTube - ‪ELECTRICITY FROM THE EARTH‬‏

YouTube - ‪free tree power‬‏

[Farmhand]

Now that is way cool ! I might just try that.

So It will just oscillate if I adjust the capacitance ? I have two x three gang capacitors like he uses on the tree. I just bought them without knowing why. I suppose I have found something to do with them now.

http://public.bay.livefilestore.com/y1pQFdG9TL6OuiWk9Mt2VtRI0qoqdatvvW3dQ8qyn3ZPQmJpbA7UYvxnNalc_hFQRgkVxsllbRP_iNEIYtOpKzvHw/Variable%20Caps.jpg?psid=1

I also have a few pretty big tree's. And some wire.

What's the plan for a radiant collector version ? Replicate the tree antenna and see what happens I guess, maybe a light will come on and show me what to do next.

Maybe I make two identical antennae ? What will happen if the tree is struck by lightning ? I'll have to put it where I can see the show if it does get hit.

Any more idea's MonsieurM.


Cheers

[MonsieurM]

Got what you need guys, found this website and it explains in details how he made his set up. W5JGV has done a great job :



ps: this experiment is a proof of concept for transforming tree as Antenna, the next step would be to turn a tree into a radiant wave collector

ok guys i know this may sound crazy but why not try using a very large Rodin Coil (i love that coil) to replace the coils he used to surround the tree (off course you'll have to find a way to get it around the tree, or just use a "skinnier" tree )



ps: if i write all this is to inspire some of you to try to experiment and in case i forget (hope it is not information overload for you, sorry in advance )

link:

A Tree Antenna for the 600 Meter Band

http://www.w7aia.org/techinfo_files/docs/RCC_Oct_2006_WB7ESV_The_Tree_Antenna.pdf

[MonsieurM]

one more info:

Wasserfadden, the floating water bridge experiment

YouTube - ‪Wasserfadden, the floating water bridge experiment‬‏

Two brimful glasses of water are placed adjacent to each other on an insulating panel, and moved so their rims are nearly touching. A short length of (silk?) thread is wetted and placed so as to bridge across the rims of the glasses. A high voltage, low current power supply or Wimshurst electrostatic generator is connected to the water in the glasses, with one wire lead going to one glass, the other lead to the other.

When the high voltage power supply is turned on, the water is reported to move along the thread. If the thread is short and very thin, the fluid current will carry the thread along through the bridge. The thread will be entirely pumped into the ?NEGATIVE?? glass, but the conductive bridge of water will not break when the thread has left it. A short filament of pure water will be left behind. If the high-voltage supply is disconnected, the water filament falls apart. If salt is added to the water, this also disrupts the filament. There are reports that the water in the core of the liquid thread moves in one direction, while water in the surrounding shell goes opposite.

Weird Science: The Wasserfadden High Voltage Water-thread Experiment

note

There are reports that the water in the core of the liquid thread moves in one direction, while water in the surrounding shell goes opposite.

sounds like rodin coil type of phenomena, if so then I suspect a third very weak electromagnetic field is created

If it can receive, it can emit

[MonsieurM]

I may have an answer to that:

"Although I can find no absolutely credible link through a google search and the debate could be settled more easily if either of us spoke Russian and had a knack for tracking down relatively ancient research (1920s-30s)...

Apparently the Russian scientist Alexander Chizhevsky, who proposed and thoroughly researched links between solar activity and biological response, found that bacteria in water responded to solar flares instantaneously, as opposed to the 8.3 minutes it should take for the photon bombardment to elicit a response."

Red Dog Bear: Why Your Brain is not a Quantum Computer

"Life is a phenomenon. Its production is due to the influence of the dynamics of the cosmos on a passive subject. It lives due to dynamics, each oscillation of organic pulsation is coordinated with the cosmic heart in a grandiose whole of nebulas, stars, the sun and the planet."
- Alexander L Chizhevsky

If so, and I think it is, water is definitely your coil to catch radiant waves

a perfect example of that: (from the links in post#7)



another interesting experiment, this i may try it, just replace the conical antenna with a Rodin Coil (use rapid growth plant to have faster results.



link:

Alexander Chizhevsky - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Cycles Research Institute Research Chizhevsky

[Bizzy]

Hmm, fair point
I would presume that rapid growth varieties in normal conditions may yield good results. Mind you, a cactus may be another idea. Time I quit waffling and tried all this out. Again squire, GREAT thread idea

The earth batteries are very cool. That's something else to look at.

That would be a great idea for another expeiment...a potted cactus verus a potted common flower that would get watered regularly
Bizzy

[Slider2732]

Hmm, fair point
I would presume that rapid growth varieties in normal conditions may yield good results. Mind you, a cactus may be another idea. Time I quit waffling and tried all this out. Again squire, GREAT thread idea

The earth batteries are very cool. That's something else to look at.

[MonsieurM]

Here's a thought...a Bonsai power station !
i was thinking about that tree moving thing and decided a Bonsai garden might be a wonderful idea (for my back).
Quite feasibly, linked with the trick say of obtaining light from an LED by use of an AV to Ground etc, we could end up with a garden that self illuminates at night, has a water wheel feature and more...with no external electricity needed. The water wheel could be a Bedini/Muller/Romero wheel, generating power for a micro sprinkler that also waters the trees periodically.
Bonus being that you could probably charge your phone from it too..

We have a couple of Ficus here, except they're plastic and our kittens are normally sat in them

I think that the volume of water (being your coils for both trees or your tree) plays a major role in capturing radiant wave; a Bonzai being a tree "starved" of water would not do you much good.

Check this out:

Magnetic and electric effects on water

[Bizzy]

you tube

There are a couple of good youtube vidoes Unfortuneately I cant access them so heopefully can post the links tomorrow unless someone does sooner.
Just search "earh battery" in you tube and your
there was one of a guyr runing a calculatorfrom a couple of pots and another of two guys charging capacitors from a tree.
Bizzy

[Slider2732]

Here's a thought...a Bonsai power station !
i was thinking about that tree moving thing and decided a Bonsai garden might be a wonderful idea (for my back).
Quite feasibly, linked with the trick say of obtaining light from an LED by use of an AV to Ground etc, we could end up with a garden that self illuminates at night, has a water wheel feature and more...with no external electricity needed. The water wheel could be a Bedini/Muller/Romero wheel, generating power for a micro sprinkler that also waters the trees periodically.
Bonus being that you could probably charge your phone from it too..

We have a couple of Ficus here, except they're plastic and our kittens are normally sat in them

[MonsieurM]

If we look at the tuning of the trees, by placement, for exact wavelengths....well i'll pass the shovel to whoever volunteers
I mean, if such a condition exists, that distance sets up standing waves between the two trees, then one of them may have to be moved !
Thin and tall and on their own...ok... A couple of Redwoods in a field would be best ? does foliage amount count ? root depth ? root spread ?

If we consider traditional Tesla towers, there would seem a point in thoughts of fiber density, as though the fibers of the tree are the gauge of the conducting wire. Hard wood, soft wood, some have got to be better than others for a multitude of reasons.
It would be a fascinating experiment, to place a Primary coil at the base of a tree and pulse the coil from an exciter circuit.
If the resident birds suddenly rocket skyward with streamers of plasma from their feet, then that would indicate success.

This is all fascinating and my humour is due to wonder and excitement for the possibilities. Will be glued to this topic, or should that be rooted

Just wanted to say, that for the sake of starting experimentation of the concept, you must forgo all those questions for the moment, see first if there is an effect, then you start refining (that is my personal approach)

I would suggest you start with two same species (if you live in an apartment the higher the better i think) of tree/flower in similar pots and just try to replicate Dr Luc Montagnier's experiment or the following proposed by Slider2732

It would be a fascinating experiment, to place a Primary coil at the base of a tree and pulse the coil from an exciter circuit.
If the resident birds suddenly rocket skyward with streamers of plasma from their feet, then that would indicate success.

You MUST keep an open mind and use these methods as those successful have already used them to achieve success. Who are you willing to believe, those who have not succeeded or those who have?
Dr. Alexander Graham Bell

[MonsieurM]

Good thing open source exist...got a couple of Ficus in 2 different pots, I'll see what i can come up with....

hope more will join in

Couple of photos taken from the links i posted







A picture is worth a thousand words

[Slider2732]

If we look at the tuning of the trees, by placement, for exact wavelengths....well i'll pass the shovel to whoever volunteers
I mean, if such a condition exists, that distance sets up standing waves between the two trees, then one of them may have to be moved !
Thin and tall and on their own...ok... A couple of Redwoods in a field would be best ? does foliage amount count ? root depth ? root spread ?

If we consider traditional Tesla towers, there would seem a point in thoughts of fiber density, as though the fibers of the tree are the gauge of the conducting wire. Hard wood, soft wood, some have got to be better than others for a multitude of reasons.
It would be a fascinating experiment, to place a Primary coil at the base of a tree and pulse the coil from an exciter circuit.
If the resident birds suddenly rocket skyward with streamers of plasma from their feet, then that would indicate success.

This is all fascinating and my humour is due to wonder and excitement for the possibilities. Will be glued to this topic, or should that be rooted