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  • MonsieurM
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    about post#35
    James H. ROGERS

    Underground & Underwater Radio


    : http://www.energeticforum.com/142205-post35.html

    “Build a Hydronic-Radiation Transmitter” by Jack Althouse

    “Scientists in Florida have discovered a new form of electromagnetic radiation which propagates under water as well as radio does in air”.

    “I must protest. Has a serious trade journal resorted to sensationalism? It appears that either that either a hoax is being perpetrated or that…”.

    “A new mode of communications --- via underwater electromagnetic radiation --- is being explored by Hydronics Corp. Wallace Minto, inventor of the system, says signals have been transmitted over a distance as great as 30 miles by this method.”.

    Is “hydronic radiation” a fact or a fraud? It has raised a storm of controversy as illustrated by the quotations above, all of which were written by responsible engineers or technical writers. The fact is that hydronic radiation does work. And the equipment is easy to build once a basic understanding of the new concept is attained.

    But first, let’s see how the system’s inventor describes hydronic radiation. Wallace Minto of Sarasota, FL, desribes it as “a new vector field related to the electromagnetic and magnetohydrodynamic forces, characteristically propagated through a water medium and associated with electronic oscillations”. Translation: Hydronic radiation is the same as radio, except that it works through water instead of air...
    ...Only the antennas distinguish the hydronic-radiation system from a conventional radio system. Receiving and transmitting antennas both have large plates, at each end of an insulating separator, to make contact with the water. A half-wave radio antenna has insulators on each end and radiates at right angles to the wire, as shown in Fig. 1-A. The hydronic radiation antenna appears to radiate off the ends of its plates (Fig. 1-B)...
    Radiant Wave Anyone?



    Wallace Minto: Hydronic Radiation Transmitter

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  • MonsieurM
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    i was just going to post it under the Pyramid thread (http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...tml#post145962 ) but i thought it could be useful here in our research because if we replace the white tube seen in the picture with the trunk of the tree (details will have to be worked out )without changing anything to the rest of the apparatus, we can theoretically collect energy

    G. FANTUZZI

    Energy Accumulator


    The present invention relates to a device to collect, concentrate, bind and radiate wandering energy which is propagated on a electrical carrier wave, this device being made up by a surface in the shape of regular pyramid, octahedral, cone or surface of revolution, in particular a spherical surface, which are used as mean of collecting and concentration of the wandering or biological energy which is propagated on an electrical wave.

    At the interior of the aforesaid surface in the pyramid which can be made out of an unspecified material, metallic or not, are mounted with an electrically insulting formed of copper rollings of helical whorls around axis parallels between them and with the axis of surface. The ends of said rollings exceed teh basic wall of the pyramid and end in feet of copper which join the diffusers.

    The aforementioned energy or biological energy which is propagated on an electrical carrier wave, concentrated by the aforementioned surface, induced in excited rollings up by the terrestrial magnetic field and by an optional auxiliary variable magnetic field a flow of energy which radiates outside through the feet of copper in the form of a beam of electric and/or electromagnetic waves.



    G. Fantuzzi -- Orgone Accumulator -- French Patent 2264406

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  • MonsieurM
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    I like to find similarities in devices created for different purposes but using the same principle to function, sometimes it helps in understanding how a device works

    for instance:

    Electroflame contactless technology extinguishing
    Global warming of the planet increases, and as a consequence, increases pozharoopastnost arid regions of the planet. Recent large-scale fires in Australia fully confirm the severity of this global problem.
    As the tragic events of huge fires in Australia recently, all the old fire fighting (water, foam, etc.) do not allow to effectively fight a fire burning a large area and high intensity, especially during strong winds. This problem can be efficiently solved with the help of a fundamentally new technology electroflame fighting fires.

    The essence of technology:
    The technology used in the electric field of certain parameters, which allows you to instantly put out any fire.

    The design of the devices
    Structurally, the new fire-fighting is an electrical device comprising an electrical generator of low power, high voltage transformer, the drive of electric charges and telescopic rod (ground unit) or cable (the helicopter) with metal, filigree, mesh frame, unfolding on the principle of an umbrella.


    Îáçîð íîâûõ òåõíîëîãèé àêàäåìèêà Äóäûøåâà*-*Íîâåéøèå ýêîëîãè÷åñêèå è ýíåðãåòè÷åñêèå òåõíîëîãèè
    ------
    and

    French Patent # 565,395
    Combined Apparatus for Capture of Atmospheric Electric Currents with Immediate Implementation (i think it is Jules GUILLOT but it resembles also Justin CHRISTOFLEAU's invention see:http://www.energeticforum.com/agricu...o-culture.html )

    Atmospheric Electricity Collection Patents



    Jules Guillot -- Atmospheric Electric Generator -- Article & 2 French Patents

    notice the similar head to emit (in the Russian invention) and to receive (in Jules GUILLOT's invention )

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    related to Jules GUILLOT's invention

    Suzanne GUILLEMETTE

    Perpetual Electrostatic Force

    The perpetual universal electrostatic force has long been the subject of research of all kinds by many scholars, in order to come to tame the static constant contained in the universal atmosphere. To date, none of them had managed practically.

    However, some have managed, in different ways, to capture a relatively infinitesimal amount of barely controllable electricity, remaining in the laboratory : a flow also very irregular, often obtained by extremely prohibitive means, this current generally does not exceed a few milliamperes, thus remaining practically unusable in any practical or industrial application.
    The invention object of this patent, completely remedies these drawbacks by making it convenient and extremely economical to obtain and use this constant electrostatic force by a new system, thus producing a continuous and perfectly regular electrical current and whose power allows its practical application and industry in a wholly consistent and perfect manner.
    The system works automatically and indefinitely, with absolute regularity and continuous, with no consumption, and no maintenance during the many years necessary for the destruction of the device, for normal breakdown caused by time alone.


    Guillemette -- Perpetual Electrostatic Force

    see also: Serafino Orlando -- atmospheric electric generator

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  • MonsieurM
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    follow up on these two posts #165, 166





    I don't know if you guys knew this :

    A century and more ahead of his time, Walter Russell, in The Secret of Light presents a unique Cosmogony, that of a universe in which Creator and Creation are proven to be a seamless, unified whole, and in which the dualism of "mind and matter" disappears. In revelation of what he terms "natural science," Russell presents a two-way, magnetic-electric thought-wave universe, cyclic in nature and eternally "creating," as opposed to the "created, expanding, entropic universe" of current science. Russell's philosophy of the science of Being, the invisible world of Cause--the nature of consciousness, knowing, thinking, sensing, inspiration, intuition, energy, and the creative process

    Free Energy and Free Thinking

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  • MonsieurM
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    Not speaking Russian , i used google translation to give me the correct translation for wireless electricity in Russian and i found this, quite interesting video:

    farmhand, you may want to have a look at it

    YouTube - ‪БеÑ�проводнаÑ� передача Ñ�лектричеÑ�тва‬‏

    This device transmits electricity without using any wires as a guide along which the transmission of electricity is land. The device is assembled by the scientist Nikola Tesla patents. The main element of the device is a transformer Tesla.
    Experiments with the free energy (watch starting at 2 min easy to reproduce )

    Experiments cold electricity transformer Tesla magnetic motor Vladivostok converter arc wireless power transmission cooler Bedini free energy of the pulse generator
    YouTube - ‪Опыты Ñ�о Ñ�вободной Ñ�нергией‬‏


    i found an amazing website (it comes to us from Russia), I opened a separate thread for it:



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  • MonsieurM
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    side note on Keely motors, it uses the same principle as presented by Viktor Schauberger and Walter Russell:

    The Keely Motor has been the subject of endless discussion over the past 120 years. John Ernst Worrell Keelys original patent was filed with the US Patent Office in 1872 and to this day resides in the Reserve section under Motors, Hydropneumatic and not generally available to the public. During all these years no indication of any kind was ever given as to its mode of function, its energy source or any principle of operation. In fact this motor was on display in The Franklin Institute in Philadelphia for many years labeled a perpetual motion machine. How does it work? What principle of physics is used in its design? Can these concepts be used today? This paper reveals for the first time answers to most of these questions. The answers are found in principles of water hammer, (cavitation, implosion)
    YouTube - ‪FUELLESS HEATER NO FUEL NO GAS NO WOOD NO GREEN HOUSE GASES‬‏

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  • MonsieurM
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    John W. Keely held similar view as Tesla and Russell


    The Theory of a Musical Universe (wave matter)[ 1] "The universe consists solely of waves of motion." relates Walter Russell in chapter 31 of A New Concept of the Universe. Another way of saying this is: "There exists nothing other than vibration." In Russell's statement lies the base for his next blast at orthodoxy's belief in a material universe: "Any theory which cannot find a fitting place within the wave has no other place for it in Nature." Hard words for sure but can they stand up to scrutiny? Is it possible to create a paradigm of nature that is structured entirely on wave or vibration theory?

    Investigating the pioneer work of John W. Keely's "Sympathetic Vibratory Physics" [2] would lead us to believe this is so. Logically speaking, for such a paradigm to exist it would be couched entirely in vibration terms and concepts and would evolve from the simple to the complex addressing atomic phenomena all the way through human activity. The author (Dale Pond; Frank Germano, ED) believes this can be done, albeit not exhaustively, in so short a paper as this one. In as much as a premise voiced ought to be demonstrated it will herein be shown how all vibration is intimately connected to all other vibration...
    ...The vibrations of windows and glass dishes in response to the sounding of various musical chords first set his mind upon the subject of vibration, and the curious sympathy between distant waves vibrating in harmony.
    ...Therefore music is organized vibration or sound set in orderly principles of structure and behavior. The principles that make sound into harmonious music are the same principles that govern all associating vibrations throughout the universe - and that includes everything that there is. It will be shown how any given vibration gives rise to a complex yet simple series of subordinate vibrations known generally as harmonics and these harmonics are relative to one another as are musical intervals.
    Peter Davey:

    Davey noticed as he played the saxophone at home that everything resonated at a different frequency.

    "The glasses will tinkle on one note. Knives and forks in the drawer will tinkle on another note and I realised that everything has its point of vibration," he said. "In the same way, a component in the ball is tuned to a certain frequency."

    Davey said it took years of trial and error to get the device to where it is now. He has made a number of prototypes using the same principle, including a steamer.
    Nikola Tesla:

    "It is well known that an electric circuit compacts itself like a spring with a weight attached to it. Such a spring vibrates at a definite rate, which is determined by two quantities, the pliability of the spring and the mass of the weight. Similarly an electric circuit vibrates, and its vibration, too, is dependent on two quantities, designated as electrostatic capacity and inductance. The capacity of the electric circuit corresponds to the pliability of the spring and the inductance to the mass of the weight."
    John W. Keely
    ...When these harmonics form unisons or direct harmonic relations the two vibrating aggregates and their chords of vibration are said to be sympathetic to each other. This unison of frequency dictates that what happens to one vibratorily happens to the other simultaneously.
    "the two vibrating aggregates " are your trees existing under the Schumann Resonance

    and also :

    The Fourier principle of frequency signature transformation means that even the most complex shape is a simple sum of sine waves of different lengths.
    John Ernst Worrell Keely : Sympathetic Vibratory Physics

    Peter Davey -- Sonic Resonance Boiler

    YouTube - ‪Vibration. See the unseen.‬‏


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  • MonsieurM
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    Remember Crook's periodic table: (http://www.energeticforum.com/135346-post12.html )



    Uploaded with ImageShack.us

    Well it happens that Sir William Crookes was a mentor to Dr Tesla

    It is clear that Sir William Crookes completely grasped the significance of Tesla's entire demonstration and realized the closing formal announcement of the new electric force. Crookes could not contain the thrilling implications. He was also sure that the new force would completely revolutionize the scientific world.

    Crookes upheld Tesla thereafter as the true discoverer of an unrecognized electrical force. Tesla continued correspondence with his mentor after his departure from England. He had hoped that his dramatic announcement and demonstration would produce a new regime of electrical engineering, and that others would now reproduce the radiant electric effects as described. His hopes would be strangely dashed to pieces in the coming years when the derisive academic attacks began.
    now if you read the recent post i made on tesla:

    interview with Dr. Tesla from

    Popular Science - Nov 1928 - Page 16


    BESIDES his world power scheme, Dr. Tesla says he is devoting his time chiefly to his vertically rising flying machine. This aerial flivver is to weigh less 200 pound...
    ...On the whole subject of matter, in fact, Dr. Tesla holds views that are startlingly original. He disagrees with the accepted atomic theory of matter, and does not believe in the existence of an "electron" as pictured by science or, he maintains, if it can exist at all, it does so only in perfect vacuum...
    ...Even before the discovery of radium, Tesla expressed his belief that radioactive rays were of this sort, a view ridiculed at that time. When radium was discovered it was found actually to emit particles of matter ....Tesla has maintained ever since that radium is not a generator but a transformer of energy, the emanations being caused by cosmic rays of immense power capable of penetrating all obstacles however thick.
    Popular Science - Google Books
    You realize that Dr Tesla must have held the same views on the periodic table as Sir W. Crookes

    To understand a man, you've got to walk a mile in his shoes, whether they fit or not.
    Nikola Tesla (23/26)

    YouTube - ‪WSM = Wave Structure of Matter‬‏

    YouTube - ‪Vibration. See the unseen.‬‏

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  • MonsieurM
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    One remark, I would like to make about post#91 (http://www.energeticforum.com/143716-post91.html)

    Note: the application of a coil inside a coil design is again being used in this experiment
    I consider that the principle of a coil within a coil is "a first degree fractal" design (second vertical figure)



    coil within coil design analogy Russian dolls:







    which also is inspired from nature if you read:



    also an example that was posted:

    Originally posted by goldsphere View Post
    Seems somewhat similar to the Cook Electromagnetic Battery.
    Cook Electro Magnetic Battery
    from http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...your-help.html

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  • MonsieurM
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    from post #133

    I found this document, which i think is authored by Nicolas Tesla, I have uploaded it, so as you can have access to it

    Quite different conditions exist in my system in which the electromagnetic waves or radiations are designedly minimized. the connection of one of, the terminals of the transmitting circuit to the ground having, itself, the effect of reducing the energy of these radiations to about one-half, Under observance of 'proper rules and artifices the distance is of little or no consequence, and by skillful application of the principle of "individualization," repeatedly referred to the messages may be rendered both non-interfering and non-interferable. This invention, which I have described in technical publications, attempts to imitate, in a very crude way, the nervous system in the human body

    ...I conclude that the invention wilt permit the simultaneous transmission of several millions of separately distinguishable messages through the earth, which, strangely enough, is in this respect much superior to an artificial conductor
    .' Nicolas Tesla
    If Tesla tried to emulate the nervous system, isn't it logical to search the nervous system for clues

    a while back i wrote this in a post on fractal antenna:

    I think that Tesla was the first to realize the Constructal/ fractal properties of Nature and was able to use that in order to make a fractal antenna out of whatever he wished and to tap into the scalar waves as well. Some think that Scalar waves travel at the speed of thought (which is of course instantaneous), maybe it is and if so, then Scalar waves and "telepathy wave" are likely to be one and the same. Which leads me back to the title of this thread: The Brain is an Advanced Fractal Antenna.
    Frontiers | Fractals in the nervous system: conceptual implications for theoretical neuroscience | Frontiers in Fractal Physiology

    This essay is presented with two principal objectives in mind: first, to document the prevalence of fractals at all levels of the nervous system, giving credence to the notion of their functional relevance; and second, to draw attention to the as yet still unresolved issues of the detailed relationships among power-law scaling, self-similarity, and self-organized criticality. As regards criticality, I will document that it has become a pivotal reference point in Neurodynamics. Furthermore, I will emphasize the not yet fully appreciated significance of allometric control processes. For dynamic fractals, I will assemble reasons for attributing to them the capacity to adapt task execution to contextual changes across a range of scales. The final Section consists of general reflections on the implications of the reviewed data, and identifies what appear to be issues of fundamental importance for future research in the rapidly evolving topic of this review.
    Neurobiologists Find that Weak Electrical Fields in the Brain Help Neurons Fire Together

    "So far, neural communication has been thought to occur almost entirely via traffic involving synapses, the junctions where one neuron connects to the next one. Our work suggests an additional means of neural communication through the extracellular space independent of synapses."
    link:
    Neurobiologists Find that Weak Electrical Fields in the Brain Help Neurons Fire Together - Caltech Media Relations

    I'm glad this document confirms my theory


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  • MonsieurM
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    I know some of you already are aware of this but for those who are not:


    interview with Dr. Tesla from

    Popular Science - Nov 1928 - Page 16


    BESIDES his world power scheme, Dr. Tesla says he is devoting his time chiefly to his vertically rising flying machine. This aerial flivver is to weigh less 200 pound...
    ...On the whole subject of matter, in fact, Dr. Tesla holds views that are startlingly original. He disagrees with the accepted atomic theory of matter, and does not believe in the existence of an "electron" as pictured by science or, he maintains, if it can exist at all, it does so only in perfect vacuum...
    ...Even before the discovery of radium, Tesla expressed his belief that radioactive rays were of this sort, a view ridiculed at that time. When radium was discovered it was found actually to emit particles of matter ....Tesla has maintained ever since that radium is not a generator but a transformer of energy, the emanations being caused by cosmic rays of immense power capable of penetrating all obstacles however thick.
    Popular Science - Google Books
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    The Illustrated Tesla - Google Books
    By Nikola Tesla

    -------


    very interesting read...





    ps: http://www.energeticforum.com/new-me...dic-table.html

    As you can see from the article, Dr Tesla wasn't using the same referential as modern scientist, you need to know how he viewed the world of matter to truly understand how he realized his wireless power transfer...I hope i have shown you enough to realize what Tesla discovered was as did:

    Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
    - Ben Rich, the “Father of the Stealth Fighter-Bomber” and former head of Lockheed Skunk Works

    When Rich was asked how UFO propulsion worked, he said, “Let me ask you. How does ESP work?” The questioner responded with, “All points in time and space are connected? Rich then said, “That’s how it works!
    Extraterrestrial UFO Are Real : Ben Rich Lockheed Skunk Works Director Admitted In His Deathbed Confession |Latest UFO News| UFO 2011 Sightings|Alien Pictures|2011 Solar Flares|Disclosure Project|Web Bot

    Isn't he describing this:

    Originally posted by MonsieurM View Post
    Just wanted to post this info because its representation is nothing more than a Fractal representation:

    Multiverse = Many Worlds, Say Physicists - Technology Review



    Enjoy
    as the saying goes: To understand a man, you've got to walk a mile in his shoes, whether they fit or not.


    from: http://www.energeticforum.com/psychi...tml#post145546
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  • MonsieurM
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    Computational Modeling of New Kinds of Fractal Antennas and
    Fractal Frequency-selective Structures Based on Them



    Abstract| Authors' realized modeling of two kinds of fractal antennas with similar structure, but different algorithms of development. The first antenna geometry is a figure "Life Flower" and the second one is series of crossed circles nested to each other. The obtained results were analyzed and conclusion of the practical applicability for these antennas was made. The obtained theoretical results allow us to conclude that synthesized fractal antennas have multi-band and wide-band features. Besides the direct usage, such fractal structures performed on micron-level may reveal an application in a wide class of new fractal frequency-selective materials and surfaces. The applicability sphere of fractal antennas in modern technologies was shown: cellular communication, wireless information transmission and reception, and radar location devices. Also application filed was described for fractal antennas in modern technology: cellular communications, wireless receiving and transmitting information devices, and radar.



    Awesome documentary on water: (please watch starting at 4:38)

    YouTube - ‪Top secret water 2005 part 2‬‏

    Note: Thanks God we have the Russian Scientists and their willingness to explore Fringe Science, they are doing a great favor to humanity
    (I'm not Russian, if you must know )

    TREES AND THE SACRED (remember adaptive fractal antenna )

    From the earliest times, trees have been the focus of religious life for many peoples around the world. As the largest plant on earth, the tree has been a major source of stimulation to the mythic imagination. Trees have been invested in all cultures with a dignity unique to their own nature, and tree cults, in which a single tree or a grove of trees is worshipped, have flourished at different times almost everywhere. Even today there are sacred woods in India and Japan, just as there were in pre-Christian Europe. An elaborate mythology of trees exists across a broad range of ancient cultures.
    Sacred Places: Trees and the Sacred

    WATER AND THE SACRED

    Water is a primordial element which underlays creation myths and stories around the world. The Egyptian Heliopolitan creation story recounts that the sun-god Atum (Re) reposed in the primordial ocean (Nun). In Assyro-Babylonian mythology, first the gods and subsequently all beings arose from the fusion of salt water (Tiamat) and sweet water (Apsu). The holy books of the Hindus explain that all the inhabitants of the earth emerged from the primordial sea. At the beginning of the Judeo-Christian story of creation, the spirit of God is described as stirring above the waters, and a few lines later, God creates a firmament in the midst of the waters to divide the waters (Genesis 1:1-6). In the Koran are the words We have created every living thing from water.
    Sacred Places: Water and the Sacred


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  • MonsieurM
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    please read this post before you view the video:



    This guy used the same concept to transfer energy wirelessly

    YouTube - ‪Oil Water and Energy - Energy Transits Water and Oil - Dimensional Imagery‬‏

    The 'MT' Unit is a wireless-cordless power supply that can be scaled up or down for use (first rule of fractal ). The 'MT' unit transfers power via magnetic fields to produce electricity in other units.

    The Sun transfers power to Planets with Electro-Magnetic Energy causeing Planetary Spin.

    Its believed by this Researcher that most Galaxies are Electro-Magnetic, Causeing, mantaining most of any Solar and Plantary Spin of bodys that are in orbits. (Copyright 1980 -2010 Daniel Paris)
    mtunit.com is available for sale at $100. It is a great fit for an Education business


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  • MonsieurM
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    I 'll be looking forward to your results Slider , in the meantime i found this:

    DIY oscilloscope

    YouTube - ‪Jyetech scope DIY KIT‬‏


    this is hazardous tinkering so please be careful

    Water Capacitor Resonance

    YouTube - ‪Water Capacitor Resonance‬‏

    Capacitor 1000 uF 10 Volts under water

    YouTube - ‪Capacitor 1000 uF 10 Volts under water‬‏

    Water charging a capacitor

    YouTube - ‪Water charging a capacitor‬‏

    Wireless Electricity no Battery

    YouTube - ‪Wireless Electricity no Battery.wmv‬‏

    Wireless Energy

    there in Ukraine was reserched special forms antennas wich with special generator can transmitt and recieve without wires energy with loss of less than 1%.
    it would be great to have a pick at their antenna, or at least a translation

    YouTube - ‪Wireless Energy‬‏

    High Voltage Power Line Exp ( free energy & wireless electricity ? )

    Experimenters Corner by: Lorrie Matchett.....Did you hear of the farmer that powered his house from under high voltage power lines for free, well it just might be true....In this experiment you will need a vehicle ( a minivan in my case ) to act as receiving antenna that is insulated from the ground...( Important note; make sure you turned your vehicle off when performing this experiment and make sure you have no gas leaks....equals no chance of an accident ) ...The next thing that you will need to complete this experiment is one led light bulb (110-volt a/c ), a multimeter and a grounding rod,.... The black wire that you see coming from my van is connected to one side of the led light bulb....The other end of this led light is the red wire which is connected to a grounding rod and when pushed into the ground it completes the circuit, causing the current to flow....The voltage on my multimeter reads over 700-volt a/c with no load and drops to about 54-volt a/c with the led light bulb in circuit....You really got to be careful when performing this experiment because you can get a nasty shock,,,,Always make sure you are insulated from the ground... Wearing shoes is a must and never do it in the rain because water and electricity can kill.....Please read my disclaimer located on my home channel`s page before performing this experiment....If you decide to do this experiment it is at your own risk....I would suggest you not to because it can be dangerous.....
    YouTube - ‪High Voltage Power Line Exp ( free energy & wireless electricity ? )‬‏


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  • Slider2732
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    Thanks for all that info
    I'd want to initially create a 27MHz fractal antenna, plus a 49MHz one...for R/C experiments and to be formed upon the aircraft shape. Down the line, a 2.4GHz antenna would be envisaged.
    Time to check out those links you've posted

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