Joule Ringer!

[Allen Burgess]

BITT BEMF recovery.

I realized while responding to questions about Thane Heins's BITT, that all the A.C. inverter circuits would start to fry without a BEMF recovery circuit and diode protection. A fast switching diode in line with a super capacitor looped back to D.C source from the primary should do the trick! A second set of diodes would also be needed to protect the Inverter componants. This simple upgrade combination should produce a self runner!

A fine BITT flux core could be cold molded from iron powder mixed with Locktite 1 to 1 epoxy. The mixture could be set in a 1/4 plaster of paris mold. The quaters could be cemented together with the same mixture. That would produce two halves with six butts. This would allow us to cement the flux core ends inside the empty cores of prewound copper magnet wire spools, again with the same mixture to insure uniformity, and save the tedious job of wraping.

I e-mailed Thane and asked him to review my posts here on the BITT to see if everything meets with his approval.

[totoalas]

5 Watts Solar for JB/Milnoly Mod Charger???

@b_rads

Interesting indeed. Still wrapping my head around the magnetic amplifier page, thanks for that! I'm trying to imagine whether or not the guy has to sit there and vary the potentiometer to make the thing work... it would seem so, to me, anyway.. and perhaps what you are saying is; hit it with a pwm. hmmm i don't know, but "rolling" a pot, would give you a sort of (rough) sawtooth on the positive side, would it not? I'm still trying to understand how he even gets AC (or if he truly does) out of such a simple circuit. Strange an cool indeed.

Hi Kyle, Sky and minoly
Dont know much about solar panels so help is most wanted here
I already have the 7 Ah battery to JB / Minoly charge 2 60 Ah Batteries which in turn will supply loads one laptop , one desk top and one 42 " led tv

The solar panel specs are 10 Watts 5 Watts
Peak Power 10 W 5 W
Max peak Voltage 17.5 V 18 V
Max peak current 0.57 A 0.28 A

Solar panel to charge the 7 Ah battery while another 7 A h battery is charging the 60 A batterry the other 60 Ah battery is supplying the load

Too many manual switching , any very basic auto changeover circuit to do all this

Also 5 or 10 watts Panels to use or how to connect them together....

The Solid state relay of Technomancer seems better since when I am testing the new 2A charge controller , the relay suddenly rattle and need to isolate the panel to reset the alarm......

One more thing, diode protection of solar terminal what size please

Hope you can help me with my set up

thanks to all
5 W Solar Panel test 050112 - YouTube
totoalas

10 W Solar Panel test 060112 - YouTube



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[Tectalabyss]

Earth

Hi All.
This post is off topic it's the first and last time I'll do this.Just feel the need I guess.In My Humble opinion whether we believe in God or not Earth is truly the mother of us all.and we need to treat her has such.....Peace to all....Tec

[Billxx]

Fuji/Kodak mod joule ringer circuit...

Hello...

After reading all the postings and viewing most, if not all the YouTube videos, I became intrigued with the disposable camera circuit configurations and how it fit into the circuit driving the CFL lamp/FL tube.

What I discovered, and maybe why so many were frustrated that their circuits didn't work or work as well as the circuit originator expected, was that there are about 4 various configurations, 2 entirely different circuit designs and 2 variations of the same design for both the Fuji and Kodak disposable cameras.

As the circuit design was being improved and the drawing revised, I didn't come away with a final improved design, as somebody else noted in one of the postings.

Since all the known components are all the same it appears that the construction of the 'Bifiler Coil' is the only variable and it looks like a great guessing game as to its construction for best tuning in the circuit for max performance in replicating the original circuit design.

I'm going to try my hand at it and see how close I might come in replicating the original circuit and I'll be guessing that the coil form is approx 0.43" dia x 4.50" long with 0.25" on each side to the end of the windings. This would equate to approx 150 windings/wrap and with 6 wraps giving a total of approx 450 windings for each of the 2 wires used.

I know everybody has moved on to new and different exciting projects, but, for me, I need to start from the beginning and understand the objective of these cool projects so I can better understand them.

Any hints or tips will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

[kcarring]

@b_rads

Interesting indeed. Still wrapping my head around the magnetic amplifier page, thanks for that! I'm trying to imagine whether or not the guy has to sit there and vary the potentiometer to make the thing work... it would seem so, to me, anyway.. and perhaps what you are saying is; hit it with a pwm. hmmm i don't know, but "rolling" a pot, would give you a sort of (rough) sawtooth on the positive side, would it not? I'm still trying to understand how he even gets AC (or if he truly does) out of such a simple circuit. Strange an cool indeed.

[boguslaw]

What kind of circuit is the best to charge 1000uF/350V capacitor from small cell accumulator 3,6V 800mAh or maybe 10000uF/25V ? Some variant of Joule Thief ? Need advice, please/.

[b_rads]

Cool - Inverter Circuit

@all:
Not certain if anyone is still experimenting with the inverter circuits or not, but I stumbled onto a couple of things I found very interesting.



DC to AC Inverter With the 555

, found at:

Homemade Magnetic Amplifiers.

My thinking is to combine the 555 timer circuit and complimentary pair transistors as the front end of the circuit by Van Roon and the schematic by Steiner as the back end of the circuit. I have completed the front end and am working on the back end.



For the back end I salvaged some 120VAC to 5VDC transformers (no center tap). Using two of these transformers, I connected them together similar to what is shown by Steiner. Placing the 2 transformers side by side, I put 2 magnets between and a single magnet on the outside of each. The polarities of the magnets are all facing the same direction. The bulb lit slightly brighter with no increase in current supplied to the circuit. I then placed a 100uH choke from RadioShack on one leg of the AC output to the bulb, and an even greater increase in light without an increase in supplied current.







Magnetic Amplifiers - Principles and Applications : Paul Mali : Free Download & Streaming : Internet Archive

Brad S

[Allen Burgess]

@Allen

Are you suggesting that using a fencewire core this could be done?
I'm a bit confused with the Thane Heins based methods, because in most cases a see a prime mover, be that a motor or a transformer, which apparently has a fairly (larger) current draw/power requirement, and the secondaries, when added, do not seem to load it down, rather it's own draw decreases, suggesting that the high impedence coil, the secondary, is providing its' load with power, at no real cost. But, if the whole apparatus draws substantially more current than would required to just power the secondary load, on it's own, conventionally, where are the savings? When he talks about his technology being used in a regenerative acceleration situation, I am lead to believe he means, if you are going to be powering a current-hungry motor in the first place, to accelerate a EV, why not be charging the batteries simultaneously for free? Is this correct? If so, in a lighting situation, is it similar, i.e. sure, those 3V lamps seemingly are drawing very little current, but what about the Variac, what is it drawing? Would we not need to have a high speed "fan" or something, that provided additional light (for allegedly free...). Set me straight if I am confused! Thanks

Thane maintains that the BITT'S saturated primary core begins to return power to the grid! The conventional transformer's primary draw mirrors its output; The BITT'S seconday draw is independent of its primary input, and furthermore, Thane discovered that the primary BEMF returns power to the utility company instead of looping around the flux core to fight itself. Even though the primary appears to draw power in the amp meters through the Variac, the utility meter on the outside of the house should be standing still!

[Allen Burgess]

Bi-Toroid.

@Totoalas,

The BITT transformer, like all transformers, requires A.C. input current to operate correctly. Pulsed D.C. will yield some, but very inferior results. Try powering the JT with the Flip Flop Inverter or transformed A.C. wall current. Looks awesome, good luck!

[totoalas]

bi toroid joule ringer 020112



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using the small toroid as trigger and jkst placed inside the crt cone coil pick up 12 ro 20 ma very dim led with 5 v dc with 12 v it will not light up the led bulb

totoalas

[SkyWatcher]

Hi hiops, yes made mistake, i fixed it, good luck with the circuit.
peace love light
tyson

[hiops]

Thanks, SkyWatcher!
I'm gonna try it, I believe 2n4403 is PNP.
Alex

[SkyWatcher]

Hi hiops, Mine is using a 2n4403 PNP and an n-channel mosfet.
By adjusting the 100uf capacitor, that changes the pulse frequency and so larger value takes more time to charge and allows greater voltage in dump capacitor.
So you adjust that for the voltage you want to dump for a given load.
peace love light

[hiops]

Hi folks, Hi guruji, I'm not sure what you mean by self charger.
The circuit i posted is just for dumping a capacitor that is charged by other means, like a joule ringer flyback.

I was testing something minoly showed in one of his videos, where he back charged his 6 volt input battery by placing another one in series with it.
So I did the same thing with my 12 volt batteries and used a joule thief ringer flyback and placed the diode output across the series input batteries, though only one of the 12 volt batteries actually powers the oscillator.
It seems to charge the other passive 12 volt fairly well.
I'm using schotky diodes for the flyback.
peace love light
tyson

@ SkyWatcner
What kind of PNP transistor and mosfet do you use, and you says it dumps at 18 volts, how do you think this voltage can be regulated in this dumper of yours
Alex

[Allen Burgess]

BITT Transformer.

@Dave45;

I agree with you. My understanding of Thane's transformer theory implies that increasing the twin secondary wraps should increase the BITT transformer output without raiseing primary draw. The matching secondaries generate power in one another through the thicker outer wire loop, rather then return the BEMF to fight the primary, protected by the thinner wire "H" bridge of higher flux path resistance.

@Kcarring;

Woopyjump apparently found that thin insulated fence wire does indeed work as a flux transformer core. I see no reason why it could'nt be scaled up to illuminate 120 volt A.C. LED Bulbs.

@Farmhand;

Doubleing the twin secondary wraps should boost the efficiency of Woopyjump's BITT transformer from 19% to 38%, if my understanding of Thane's theory is correct!



Winding a fence wire circle of ten loops, followed by another ten, criss-crossed for the H bridge, then finished off with an additional ten loops around the outside, would result in a simple 2 to 1 flux path ratio that seems to work well. Any disproportionate ratio would probably work bound tightly by tape like Woopyjump's. This approach beats ordering custom laminations from a manufacturer. Coils of wire are equally magnetic regardless of which direction they're wound. Woopy promised to cut the loop to see if works when reconnected. This would simplify construction enormously, allowing us to simply insert the six transformer core end butts into prewound wire spool cores. Let's wait and see if Woopyjump suceeds.