Joule Ringer!

[fusionchip]

i still have had no luck at it with 4 different transformers from fuji cameras and one kodak..
maybe i need to stop buying my stuff from the dollar general store..
hell with it..

robbie

Bet we could get this to work with a MOT and HV cap

@all you can make another transformer that oscillates with the trigger coil by wrapping 8 turns around it and connecting them to the two unused pins on the bottom . Pictured is just that with a 2n2222a . more later ..

Albert

[Mark]

When I was playing with the Fugi circuits I got mine for free. I just went to Walgreens or anywhere they develop film and asked if I could have a couple of the old disposable camera's. They just throw them into a big barrel to recycle. I grabbed out a half dozen for the circuits and the batteries in them were also good!

Mark

[seth]

OK - Ive got a neon to quickly flash now for 15 mins with no battery. But the flash is pretty pathetic. And i can do it with or without the bifilar coil (but bifilar lasts longer). Im using a flyback and i think the cap in the flyback is bleeding off charge as well as the cap i use to power it (35V 10000micF). I'll make a vid if anyone is interested, but its not really the same effect (it seems to me anyhow).

Anyone got a CFL to last a minute yet? (other than laser)

[xee2]

@ LaserSaber

Does this match what you built? Please check to see if there is about 200 ohms between pins 3 and 6 on your transformer and that pin one does not connect to any other pins.

[LaserSaber]

@xee2

Does this match what you built? Please check to see if there is about 200 ohms between pins 3 and 6 on your transformer and that pin one does not connect to any other pins.

I will try and check it soon. I am sorry that I have not been able to help on here more. My vacation time is over and I am back at work now. I will still try to help as I am able.

@seth

Anyone got a CFL to last a minute yet? (other than laser)

I thought Dragon said he had his running for over 15 minutes.

@fusionchip
You were one of the ones who inspired me to really start working in this field. Thanks for all your hard work and help. I am sure that you will get it working soon. I got my Fuji cameras at WalMart. I am looking for a better source as well. I have ordered some of the camera assemblies from Electronic Goldmine. I will let you know if they work.

[Lidmotor]

Slow progress

@All
This is a slow project to get working right. It looked really simple, quick and easy but it isn't. Like Seth mentioned----the holidays and normal life are part of the problem. Last night, as I sat on the couch with a magnifing glass trying to figure out the circuit on a disposable camera, my wife turned to me and asked me--- "What are you doing?" When I tried to explain it to her she simple looked at me with a blank stare and went back to what she was doing. I decided to put the project to away for the evening and spend time with her.

@Bolt1
Your description of what is happening in this circuit makes the most sense to me right now. Maybe using a regular toroid JT circuit might be a better way to explore it.


Lidmotor

[LaserSaber]

I decided to put the project to away for the evening and spend time with her

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That is one of the best posts I have seen in years. I find with two kids and another on the way plus a full time job it is not easy to find time for this hobby. We have to put family first and then somehow fit this hobby in during that free time that most people spend watching TV. I am very blessed because on many occasions my wife enjoys getting right in on the experimenting as well. Without her help and encouragement I would not have gotten some my projects working.

[seth]

@xee2



@seth


I thought Dragon said he had his running for over 15 minutes.

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Hooray!

Sorry, i missed that post!

Well done Dragon!

PS.. 2 kids and full time job and a third on the way - you do pretty well at your ''hobby'' all things considered

[dragon]

@xee2



I will try and check it soon. I am sorry that I have not been able to help on here more. My vacation time is over and I am back at work now. I will still try to help as I am able.

@seth


I thought Dragon said he had his running for over 15 minutes.

@fusionchip
You were one of the ones who inspired me to really start working in this field. Thanks for all your hard work and help. I am sure that you will get it working soon. I got my Fuji cameras at WalMart. I am looking for a better source as well. I have ordered some of the camera assemblies from Electronic Goldmine. I will let you know if they work.

I wasn't able to get a CFL to light for more than a couple minutes, the only ones I have on hand are a 13 and 23 watt. The one that will run for 15 minutes uses a standard 4 watt FL tube. The 8 watt tube worked as well but wasn't very bright and would only make 4 minute runs.

I was looking around trying to find some tubes that require less voltage and current to operate. There are some very low wattage CFL's ( 2 and 3 watt ) but they use the CCFL technology which I believe needs around 1800 volts to operate, they only draw 3ma. Digikey has a very small one that requires 1.5 ma but was expensive. Seems like we may need to find something in the 130-300 volt range with very low current requirements.

Refining the overall usage (lowering input requirement ) and some enhanced electrical recovery system would be the key to longivity. Lasersaber has the winning combination, trying to match what he has is going to be challenging.

I wish I had more time to play with it but other projects need to be completed first, although, I may find some free moments to tinker with variations... fun stuff
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Ferrari 166 History

[fusionchip]

Hi Lightsaber ,
Isn't it strange that after all these years and especially this past year when i got cancer that you inspired me to stop feeling sorry for myself and experiment with your cause. Thank you becuase i would normally be in bed . I know it's hard to go thru daily life because on top of me being a single dad of a 9 year old gal and maintaing a new house all by myself i got sick and that crushed me into hopelessness.ANd i have to learn 3rd grade math all over at 54 yrs old They are teaching Einstein field equations for Christ sake in 3'rd grade . Christmas is a good time for me to remember . So i am glad you remember me and i won't give up because you have a very gifted hand and if i had a small part in it then i am happy for you man .I Like your projects more than i have seen next to lidmotors you guys are in the groove I still have My Cubee-e- light and it is still running in My daughters bathroom after almost 2 years now . the thing feeds back to the run battery (Ni-mh) and its the only one i didnt draw out the schematic Its built with super fine # 36 wire and has two coils in it and some of these germanium diodes and a special transistor . I tried taking it apart to trace out and some of the wires snapped . I managed to get them back together and laid it in Clear Cast to never move again so i know feedback to source is real and takes the right combination of coils . You hit it right on recirculating the charge and its so close to perpetula Light . We will get it .
God bless you and yours

Albert

[seth]

Lasersaber has the winning combination, trying to match what he has is going to be challenging.

Thanks for the details dragon. You've done great work here.

Sounds like the gauntlet is laid down........who is ready to pick it up?

Good luck everyone.

[Jbignes5]

@dragon

I went out searching for a low wattage fl and found a 1.5 watt fl tube and was a night light. It only cost me 9.99 at RiteAid. A pretty good deal. It was in the hardware section and is a direct plugin to the socket type. The bulb is only 2-3 inches long but it has 3 wires out of each end. Figuring this out will be pretty hard but it is only 1.5 watts.

I am glad that Fusionchip is still going even after such heart breaking news about the cancer. Always focus yourself and stay on the course. It is when we let ourselves go down to the lower depths of life that we loose all hope. Hope and happiness is the key to health. Never give up and you will know in the end that you gave it your all. I hope you have a good long life friend and know that you will be in all our payers and hearts!

[dragon]

I went out searching for a low wattage fl and found a 1.5 watt fl tube and was a night light. It only cost me 9.99 at RiteAid. A pretty good deal. It was in the hardware section and is a direct plugin to the socket type. The bulb is only 2-3 inches long but it has 3 wires out of each end. Figuring this out will be pretty hard but it is only 1.5 watts.

I am glad that Fusionchip is still going even after such heart breaking news about the cancer. Always focus yourself and stay on the course. It is when we let ourselves go down to the lower depths of life that we loose all hope. Hope and happiness is the key to health. Never give up and you will know in the end that you gave it your all. I hope you have a good long life friend and know that you will be in all our payers and hearts!

@jbigness5, that sounds like a good start other than the odd wiring... I'll have to keep my eye out for one.

Had a big idea of upping the voltage to see if I could get some similar odd feedback results I saw with the other one... charged the caps to 12 volts... pooof said the transistor. Guess it wasn't such a good idea.

I proceeded to unsolder the transformer and took some measurements from it, the pins all seem to be tied together - I wonder if it's one coil with taps at certain turns.... taking it appart will be a quest for another day....
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Kitchen Measures

[SkyWatcher]

Hi folks, how very interesting, the comments about so called reality here. Are folks here waking up to the fact that human systems are designed to keep people occupied with survival and thereby severely limit our ability to progress away from survival. food for thought.
Anyway, unfortunately, the led series string of 20 I was using is damaged. Must of been too high a voltage for it, at least it showed some of the 'joule ringer' effects while it survived. Obviously this project needs a higher voltage load for the voltage it outputs. While it was working, it was drawing 600 milliwatts lighting the led string to probably 75% brightness, which is pretty good considering it normally draws 2.4watts.
peace love light
Tyson

[twofortheroad]

This is my first post to these forums. I have been reading them for a while and trying various circuits here and there. As for this joule ringer I have gotten a bifilar toroid coil to work for 11 minutes (lighting a CFL) on about 12000 uF. It is 1.25" OD .75" ID .625 tall with approx. 70-80 turns in two or three layers of door bell wire (red & white twisted pair from Home Depot). I wound this coil till I couldn't get any more wire on it. It was a coil I hadn't used in a while and decided to try it instead of making a Stubblefield coil. The electrolytic caps were 10, 16 and 25 volts totaling approx 12000 uF. Some of these caps were scavenged from old electronics and I bet if I had newer caps the circuit would be much more efficient. I didn't have the 1n60 diodes so I used 1 megaohm resistors in parallel with a capacitor. I believe I used 3 1M resistors in series, paralleled with a 33 nF cap.

While experimenting I have burned up 2 transistors that came with the Fuji circuits and decided to switch to 2n4401 transistors. The Fuji circuit transistors max out at 10 volts according to the specs. FYI if you try to look up the specs the part numbers are prefixed with 2S (2SC5720, 2SD2504). For some reason they drop the 2S when labeling the part. 2n4401 work but I haven't been able to get as good a time out of them yet. Everything has to be matched to the transistor's gain. Currently I'm using a 50k pot in parallel with caps to make it easier to tune. Also with the 2n4401 you can charge your caps to a much higher voltage, producing brighter light and increasing lit time.