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  • #16
    Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
    Does overunity exist or not ? I dont expect names like John Christie, Edwin
    Gray, Nikola Tesla, John Bedini, Troy Reed etc...I know enough about them
    and their achievements, what i really ask is if there is anyone among as
    mortals that succeeded make something like that or at least something
    close, why we are not allowed to see that circuit or youtube video which
    show as thing that we mortals could be able to reproduce with reasonable
    amount of money ? Is there such a thing or not ? Enough talks...SHOW AS
    AND HELP AS ! Ok, i will be so polite and write one more word : PLEASE !
    I have analysed three independent systems, made by Gray, Meyer and Puharich and concluded they all used the same principle to get their power.

    I have written it all down, so if you're interested in the dirty details and the basic principles, you may want to read my article, which is a work in progress:

    Article:Free Electric Energy in Theory and Practice - PESWiki

    Enjoy!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by lamare View Post
      I have analysed three independent systems, made by Gray, Meyer and Puharich and concluded they all used the same principle to get their power.

      I have written it all down, so if you're interested in the dirty details and the basic principles, you may want to read my article, which is a work in progress:

      Article:Free Electric Energy in Theory and Practice - PESWiki

      Enjoy!
      What i just have seen, at the first glance, looks pretty interesting, i am
      going to print this article and i am very sure that i am going to enjoy !

      Thank you very much, this is the way how we mortals could get out
      from this frogs pool and do at least something for our independance
      wich has given as from Creator but is taking away all the time from those
      who put themselves in the place of Creator.

      Thanks again !
      "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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      • #18
        Originally posted by cikljamas View Post
        What i just have seen, at the first glance, looks pretty interesting, i am
        going to print this article and i am very sure that i am going to enjoy !

        Thank you very much, this is the way how we mortals could get out
        from this frogs pool and do at least something for our independance
        wich has given as from Creator but is taking away all the time from those
        who put themselves in the place of Creator.

        Thanks again !
        You're welcome!

        I want my independence just as much as you do, so please spread the word and make it happen, my friend!

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        • #19
          @cikljamas
          Renewable energy is one thing, and free energy is another, and i know that you very good know the difference, so maybe you call it OPEN
          SYSTEMS, but it really doesnt matter wich word we use for the same
          thing untill it maybe show up that we dont talk about the same thing,
          does it ???
          Let's do a thought experiment, I have a black box and there are two wires coming out of the box which produce a potential difference between them thus an electric current --- power over time or energy. Is this black box producing free energy or renewable energy? How do you know?
          The key word is "know" or knowledge to be specific, if the dull black coating on the box harnessed the photoelectric effect such as a solar cell but you did not know this was happening is it free energy or does the fact that "knowing" the source must make it renewable energy?

          Next I will place a 8" x 8" black box on a metal table and input 1 watt of electrical power. On top of the black box I will place a container full of water and measure a temperature increase equivalent to a 3 watt input, Have I just created an "overunity machine" which will harness "free energy"? Have I defied all natural law as well as physics as we know it? No, inside the box is an ordinary heat pump that we might find in any refrigerator only the process is reversed. Some persons might accidentally touch the table and declare,"Eureka! not only is it overunity but it has also created a strangle and unaccountable cooling effect on the metal of the table", .

          You see the human mind cannot be trusted nor can our senses as they tend to make assumptions having no basis in reality. We see what we want to see and think what we will regardless of the reality of the situation. The problem has never been that free energy does not exist as we see this process all the time in renewable energy, the problem is that out mind makes a complete disconnect from what we see and know when it cannot readily identify the "source" of the energy. There is no "overunity", there is no "free energy" persay, there is a failure to identify the "source" of energy from our environment which drives any given device.
          This should be no more difficult to understand than why children and some adults believe a magician can make an elephant disappear, they saw an elephant disappear that is a fact and they call this "magic" because they have no comprehension of how an elephant could be made to disappear. In this respect "we" are like children when we believe others can make energy "magically" appear out of nowhere from nothing. I think we know better, we are making excuses for a lack of understanding and we have this fear that there are things we do not understand and may never understand.
          I have found there is one truth regarding supposed free energy machines---- "You cannot build what you do not understand".
          Regards
          AC
          Last edited by Allcanadian; 09-17-2010, 06:50 PM.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post
            "You cannot build what you do not understand".
            AC
            I remember saying these words (more like typing....)....its so weird.....seeing them again, coming from another.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post
              I have found there is one truth regarding supposed free energy machines---- "You cannot build what you do not understand".
              To me, free energy means energy I don't have to pay for. And there is an energy source available all across the universe you don't have to pay for: the electric field, emitted for free by each and every charged particle in the universe, 24/7, 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Prof. Turtur shows this without a shadow of a doubt using nothing but Coulombs law.

              So, we know the electric field is an energy source, and therefore we know we can use that energy source in principle to power every load we want to power, for free. It's just a matter of finding the right tricks to do it. Turns out Gray, Meyer and Puharich all used the same set of tricks. I have written these down for everyone who is interested in building a free energy device he does understand:

              Article:Free Electric Energy in Theory and Practice - PESWiki

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Allcanadian View Post
                @cikljamas


                Let's do a thought experiment, I have a black box and there are two wires coming out of the box which produce a potential difference between them thus an electric current --- power over time or energy. Is this black box producing free energy or renewable energy? How do you know?
                The key word is "know" or knowledge to be specific, if the dull black coating on the box harnessed the photoelectric effect such as a solar cell but you did not know this was happening is it free energy or does the fact that "knowing" the source must make it renewable energy?

                Next I will place a 8" x 8" black box on a metal table and input 1 watt of electrical power. On top of the black box I will place a container full of water and measure a temperature increase equivalent to a 3 watt input, Have I just created an "overunity machine" which will harness "free energy"? Have I defied all natural law as well as physics as we know it? No, inside the box is an ordinary heat pump that we might find in any refrigerator only the process is reversed. Some persons might accidentally touch the table and declare,"Eureka! not only is it overunity but it has also created a strangle and unaccountable cooling effect on the metal of the table", .

                You see the human mind cannot be trusted nor can our senses as they tend to make assumptions having no basis in reality. We see what we want to see and think what we will regardless of the reality of the situation. The problem has never been that free energy does not exist as we see this process all the time in renewable energy, the problem is that out mind makes a complete disconnect from what we see and know when it cannot readily identify the "source" of the energy. There is no "overunity", there is no "free energy" persay, there is a failure to identify the "source" of energy from our environment which drives any given device.
                This should be no more difficult to understand than why children and some adults believe a magician can make an elephant disappear, they saw an elephant disappear that is a fact and they call this "magic" because they have no comprehension of how an elephant could be made to disappear. In this respect "we" are like children when we believe others can make energy "magically" appear out of nowhere from nothing. I think we know better, we are making excuses for a lack of understanding and we have this fear that there are things we do not understand and may never understand.
                I have found there is one truth regarding supposed free energy machines---- "You cannot build what you do not understand".
                Regards
                AC
                You handle with english very good, i am also skilled in the same(language)realm in my native tongue, its a pity that
                i cant play that game with you from equal position, if that
                was the case, we would be very interesting rivals and we
                would surlely successfully amuse audience with our dueling
                banjos, but since it is not so, audience will be deprived with
                that pleasure...All i can say as answer you this time is that
                if i knew for sure that there is no possibility for anyone to
                make such a OU device i would not put that question to
                debate it, but even if it turned out (if one day someone
                proof that there is no OU) that we was wrong (we who
                believe that this things are possible)i will be glad that i have
                participated in this OU belief and enthusiasm. Ultimate goal
                is not to achive something, but to travel the oceans of faith
                in better world...Who said that, it can not be me, it sounds
                to well for some unknown boy from nowhere...
                "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                • #23
                  How far from overunity is this :

                  YouTube - Window Motor Assembly And Capacitor Test

                  Im just doing my first window motor, yesterday i made full bridge window
                  circuit and tasted it with trifilar ssg coil, it doesnt run good, but it runs,
                  i used bd 243 and bd 244 instead mps 8099 and mps 8599, maybe mpsa 06
                  doesnt interact so well with bd 243/244, but in HALF bridge window motor
                  using trifilar ssg coil those bd 243/244 do they job very well...Now i am
                  going to wind first window coil, and i am not sure how to do that the best
                  way....If you listen what this man say in above linked video at the begining
                  of the video he changed trigger coils and used them as power coils and that
                  significantly improve performances of his motor...Can someone who has more
                  experience with window motors give me a little help regarding :

                  1. winding the window coil (which solution is the best bifilar,trifilar...)
                  2. which circuit is better - full bridge or half bridge
                  3. some notes maybe about the transistors
                  4. how about changing coils as man in video did ?

                  Thanks beforehand !
                  "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                  • #24
                    No help, ha?..Hahaha...But im gonna make it in a few hours, some
                    help would be wellcome, but with help or without help im gonna
                    finish it in early morning (now is midnight), yes, that is the best
                    time to wind the bedinis, when everybody sleep...I think it will be
                    one of the best results ever : bedini window motor made in just
                    one day, isnt that fast ? But, help is still wellcome...
                    "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                    • #25
                      You do awaiting to fast help, there are not all times the Peoples online,
                      what did build the specific Device with what you play around right now.
                      Sometimes it takes Days before you get the right answer.
                      I did not build a Window Motor, but a similar one,
                      For rectifying you may should look with an Oscilloscope on it, to see what Waveform you get there.
                      What i have seen, when you have ie a Northpole close to the coil, but the southpole more far, then one way works better,
                      but i would try both ways anyway.
                      About the Transistors i cant help you much, but usual i take one,
                      what lays around for the first tests.
                      At this Motors is the Timing an importend Factor, it can decide,
                      how much Power it takes, how much Power it creates and how much Torque you get from it.
                      So maybe a mechanical switch is better as a trigger coil.
                      And what i do know from this motor is, that it has simple 2 coils on it,
                      no bifilar one, but can be, they are different.
                      Theorizer are like High Voltage. A lot hot Air with no Power behind but they are the dead of applied Work and Ideas.

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                      • #26
                        Well, i built it,and it runs ok, but i am not satisfied at all, i mean, i am
                        satisfied concerning everything but how much current he drains, when
                        i have changed the transistors (full bridge):instead of bd 243/244
                        i put bc 639/640 and in that case instead of 70 miliamps he drains
                        3 miliamps but he runs just if i turn the rotor with fingers...I expected
                        of window motor posibility to run with less ampers draining then other
                        bedinis, but in this case it is not the case...When i try with half bridge
                        circuit it is the same : 70 amps minimum needs to run...How to achive
                        much less ampers draining ? I tried to adjust the pot. on the trigger coil
                        but there is no help from that ! Who knows the answer ?
                        "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                        • #27
                          I managed to decrease amps to 40, and in the same time increase
                          significantly speed of rotor...Now it works really good...Next step
                          is to put big capacitor on the bridge rectifier and see some other
                          details, but as i am going forward help is even more precious, so
                          is there anyone whose bedini window motor works well draining
                          just a few milamps or even below 1 miliamp. ? Let me know, and
                          give a little help for your brother in arms !
                          "There is no love without prayer - there is no prayer without forgiveness because love is prayer - forgiveness is love." Virgin Marry - Immaculate Conception ...The geologists say it's not in the ground, the airforce says it's not in the air, the astronomers say it's not from space, so we are running out of options...

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                          • #28
                            Hi,

                            Watch this video, the claimed current consumption is under 100 uA (microAmper) taken from a 2V supercapacitor:
                            YouTube - Window Motor Assembly And Capacitor Test

                            Watch his other videos on Window motors, they are amazing too.

                            Gyula

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                            • #29
                              synchro

                              @Guyla,

                              Please have a look at my latest post entitled "Lenz's law" over at Jonnydavro's "Single magnet no bearing Bedini thread". I have achieved overunity and explain why and how it can easily be replicated.

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                              • #30
                                This is just my first time to hear about overunity and while I'm reading this thread, I'm being little by little attracting on it. It seems to be interesting. I think I'm going to have an interest to learn it too like cikljamas.
                                Low Cost Desalination

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