overunity

[cikljamas]

Does overunity exist or not ? I dont expect names like John Christie, Edwin
Gray, Nikola Tesla, John Bedini, Troy Reed etc...I know enough about them
and their achievements, what i really ask is if there is anyone among as
mortals that succeeded make something like that or at least something
close, why we are not allowed to see that circuit or youtube video which
show as thing that we mortals could be able to reproduce with reasonable
amount of money ? Is there such a thing or not ? Enough talks...SHOW AS
AND HELP AS ! Ok, i will be so polite and write one more word : PLEASE !

[gmeat]

Hi Cikljamas,


Yes there is BUT nobody will hand it to you because we all don't like you hehehe .I would say that if you want to search for the answer to your question That your best place to start would be to read the whole Electric Motor Secrets thread and just let all of that information sink in really good for a couple of months or years and you to will probably come to an AH,HA moment where things will begin to make perfect sense .Good luck in your quest for FREE ENERGY.


-Gary

[RAMSET]

Sorry they don't like you,
but Overunity does exist ,here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/271-electric-motor-secrets-48.html

post 1435 ,read it study it, and learn!

You have never seen anything like this !

Chet

[Mark]

For some reason I am unable to download the information. Could someone please download it and post it.

[Joit]

Another Link,
but lets me kinda grin a bit.

[cikljamas]

Sorry they don't like you,
but Overunity does exist ,here

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/271-electric-motor-secrets-48.html

post 1435 ,read it study it, and learn!

You have never seen anything like this !

Chet

Well, here is the summary that present the main point of post 1435 :

Quote from: duff on 2010-09-15, 12:05:04
Grumpy,

That was a very interesting read. Thanks for posting it.

I have some questions:

1. I don't know what a couple of the acronyms stand for - can you enlighten me?
SEP
SOP

2. There is reference to a FEMM diagram. Do you have that?

3. Did you try to replicate the AVEC device?

4. Do you have any pics or videos of the efforts of others?

-Duff


1. SEP is Stable Ether Pattern

2. No idea what SOP is and do not see it in the doc.

3. yes

4. yes, but I am not in contact with them to get permission to post them.


but, anyway...

[cikljamas]

Hi Cikljamas,


Yes there is BUT nobody will hand it to you because we all don't like you hehehe .I would say that if you want to search for the answer to your question That your best place to start would be to read the whole Electric Motor Secrets thread and just let all of that information sink in really good for a couple of months or years and you to will probably come to an AH,HA moment where things will begin to make perfect sense .Good luck in your quest for FREE ENERGY.


-Gary

This part : " ...and U2 will probably come to an AH,HA moment where things
will begin to make perfect sense blablabla" i saw hundreds of times
on diferent free energy forums, and what i concluded is that all of you who
"know" the secret of overunity use that phrase to proof that you indeed
DONT know how to get there ! Well, i am sorry, but i just cant help myself
to tell you the real truth about that issue, but i HOPE that there is someone
who really knows the secret and who is not selfish to not invite all of as to
his realm of that sweet secret formula, like Stan Mayers was, oil lobby offered
him 1 000 000 000 000 $, and his answer was : NO thanks, this is for humankind...Life is to short to be evil or selfish...All knowledge in the world
doesnt worth as one simple did of unselfishness ! Think of this what i just
have written and U2 will probably come to an moment where things will
begin to make perfect sense !!!

[cikljamas]

Well, is this the truth about free energy :

baroutologos baroutologos is offline
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One typical mistake a noob does ( i have been also!) in sites like this is that he is biased by his want-to-believe, belief and reads all free-energy related posts and considers it has been done repeatedly by senior members etc, while treats all opposing posts as "Nay-sayers", negative aura people, MIB, etc

I have said it before, i will say it again and i will say it in every occassion. Free energy beyond doubt has never been produced.
From the moment that will be produced and a third trustworthy party replication occurs with full specs (results posted on the internet) will be made, this technology will spread like wildfire by Internet power.

Unfortunetely this is not the case in any way. You have been led here because you do not believe current official physics dogma.

Do not allow then, to believe anyone who formualtes theories and spell out words without tangible proof.

[rick123]

How do you define overunity?
If your talking about over 100% efficiency then yes it exist and is in our market place.

Splitting an atom
Hydroelectric power
Geo-thermo power
Ground source heat pump
Water wheel
Wind mill

It depends on how you look at each system and what your looking at within each system.

What I have learned from Peters electric motor vids, Bidini circuits, and others is the efficiency of building open systems not killing the dipole.

Although I suspect often when someone says over unity they are looking to flip a switch on a magical device that can pull power from some unknown place. Good luck with that.

[cikljamas]

How do you define overunity?
If your talking about over 100% efficiency then yes it exist and is in our market place.

Splitting an atom
Hydroelectric power
Geo-thermo power
Ground source heat pump
Water wheel
Wind mill

It depends on how you look at each system and what your looking at within each system.

What I have learned from Peters electric motor vids, Bidini circuits, and others is the efficiency of building open systems not killing the dipole.

Although I suspect often when someone says over unity they are looking to flip a switch on a magical device that can pull power from some unknown place. Good luck with that.

Well,what to say? I made several bedini 4 coil ssgs with 50 % efficiency,
when i test some new single coils i have almost 70 % efficiency, then i
made bedini/cole n-pole motors, then i added generator to one bedini/cole
motor, i made that generator with six coils (300 turns each) so i got two
phase generator(couldnt put 3 more coils to have three phase)and with
no cond. i get 6.5 V from that generator and when i connect one led
and measure ampers then i see 80 miliamps drain, and 20 miliamps on the
output of the generator, but i seen on you tube guy who claims that
his bedini window motor with comutator drain only 3 miliamps and he
still doesn claim overunity, but i think, and he think that draining just
3 miliamps and with that rpm, this should be very close to overunity....

Renewable energy is one thing, and free energy is another, and i know
that you very good know the difference, so maybe you call it OPEN
SYSTEMS, but it really doesnt matter wich word we use for the same
thing untill it maybe show up that we dont talk about the same thing,
does it ???

[Farmhand]

There must be some effect of pulling massive amounts of energy from the Eather, if everyone on the planet hat a cop 50 device running or a device that could pull 50 kw contiuously, running flat out what would happen ?

Would it upset a balance ? Or tip a scale too far ?

I'm not saying it shouldn't be done because I wouldn't have a clue what would happen.

There may well be people that have very powerfull free energy or OU devices. But think that it is better to be cautious and keep it to themselves. For the good of humanity or whatever other reason.

I have thought about what I would do if I stumbled into a situation where I had an ou device, I think I would just start building them one by one and handing them out to people I know and trust while at the same time teaching them how it works and how to build it, so for anyone to hide the truth would be very difficult. I would take my chances with that. Putting out a one off or an idea is not good enough. If you build a good OU device don't just build one build many. And give them away to those who could best use them for domestic purposes. If you must tune it down for people you don't trust so well so it is not so spectacular.

In my humble opinion the word is not ready for high c.o.p. devices. We are far too wastefull.

Regards
Andrew

P.S. I know you didn't want any names but from recollection I think Mr Bearden mentions something in one of his video interviews about the unknown ramifications of large scale Eather energy manipulation.

[cikljamas]

There must be some effect of pulling massive amounts of energy from the Eather, if everyone on the planet hat a cop 50 device running or a device that could pull 50 kw contiuously, running flat out what would happen ?

Would it upset a balance ? Or tip a scale too far ?

I'm not saying it shouldn't be done because I wouldn't have a clue what would happen.

There may well be people that have very powerfull free energy or OU devices. But think that it is better to be cautious and keep it to themselves. For the good of humanity or whatever other reason.

I have thought about what I would do if I stumbled into a situation where I had an ou device, I think I would just start building them one by one and handing them out to people I know and trust while at the same time teaching them how it works and how to build it, so for anyone to hide the truth would be very difficult. I would take my chances with that. Putting out a one off or an idea is not good enough. If you build a good OU device don't just build one build many. And give them away to those who could best use them for domestic purposes. If you must tune it down for people you don't trust so well so it is not so spectacular.

In my humble opinion the word is not ready for high c.o.p. devices. We are far too wastefull.

Regards
Andrew

P.S. I know you didn't want any names but from recollection I think Mr Bearden mentions something in one of his video interviews about the unknown ramifications of large scale Eather energy manipulation.

Well, my friend, maybe there is some valuable logic in your opinion that
i just have read, but i think that there is much more sense in my logic
wich is this : who wants to control everything for God sake ? Our big
brothers ! Should we trust those kind of people, do they fight for our
goodness ? They fight for their own goodness wich they realise with
prise of milions of dead bodys all over the world, wherever they dont
find governments wich are not ready to obey what they ask of them...
Energy is one of their most important means to gain control over
someone, what is oil if not energy ?...So, dont be naive, OU is not
threat for mother earth, it si threat for mother f.... who wants to
control everyone and everywhere...What Morgan said to Tesla (tower
on Long Island) : How am i going to collect money if anyone could
pull out his antena and receive energy for free ? No,no, get lost you
and your concern for the good of humankind...Teslas answer was :
Oh, you stupid, selfish, little worms(all people like Morgan), you will
always be poison that spread all over the world looking to destroy
everything and everyone who is not in service of your own benefit...
You disgusted me in the maximum possible extent...

[Farmhand]

If a back yard inventor were to build a high c.o.p. device and decide it better to keep it secret he is not trying to control anybody.

When I said there may well be people with high c.o.p. devices I meant backyard inventors. I don't like the suppression people have suffered any more than anyone else on these boards. I am totally against it. But if an inventor decides to keep his or her secret that's his or her choice.

[cikljamas]

If a back yard inventor were to build a high c.o.p. device and decide it better to keep it secret he is not trying to control anybody.

When I said there may well be people with high c.o.p. devices I meant backyard inventors. I don't like the suppression people have suffered any more than anyone else on these boards. I am totally against it. But if an inventor decides to keep his or her secret that's his or her choice.

You are right, that kind of hypothetical back yard inventor is not trying to
control anybody, but it would be unnatural behavior if someone kept such a
valuable thing just for himself, that would be the same manner of acting as
we see on the world stage by our big brothers. I remember what Truman
said when he was leaving his presidential mandate : beware of military
establishment, even president could not control those guys, who killed the
Kennedy etc.( i talk about events that occurred 50-60 years ago, imagine
if you can, how this things looks like today!). But i do not expect of backyard
inventors to keep such eventual devices just for themself. Can you imagine
that one of the visitors of this forum for example, who use to come here to
share his knowledge with others, one day discover something unique and then
suddenly decide to keep it just for himself and forever ? It would be just
foolish,selfish,stupid,etc., but it is possible, we agreed !

[Farmhand]

I agree it would be unnatural, but it would be an unnatural situation, if I didn't know better my first reaction would probably be to run around and tell as many people as I could and show them. But maybe posting with instructions and what not to many other people at the same time if you want to get something out. It would be extremely stressfull I imagine, i'm not sure my heart or my head could take it if it were to happen to me. I feel for those that must make the choice by themselves.

Developing an ou device in full view on a public forum would be a pretty good way of getting one out, completely open, documented and backed up. Seen by many. As well as understood. Got any Idea's. I got a few, but some are a bit whacky.

Cheers