Kapagen Systems - 12v Input Only

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Warning and Disclaimer



DISCLAIMER: WHILE THE INPUT VOLTAGE IS ONLY 12V, THERE IS STILL DANGER FROM ELECTRIC SHOCK. WARNING! HIGH VOLTAGE. LETHAL DANGER FROM HIGH VOLTAGE ELECTRIC SHOCK. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO REPLICATE. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED. INFORMATION PROVIDED ONLY FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. THESE VOLTAGES AND CURRENTS CAN KILL YOU!

IF YOU ARE A NOVICE OR A JOKER STAY AWAY!

...danger with 12 v . Even 9 v can kill a person. It depends on the places of your body which the potential. touches. Here is the picture of these places. The problem becomes more serious if you drink a little bit of alcohol.

When dealing with electricity, there is either danger from macroshock or microshock. The point is both forms of electric shock can kill.

DISCLAIMER: The author(s), either jointly or individually, of this thread assumes no liability for any incidental, consequential or other liability from the use of this information. All risks and damages, incidental or otherwise arising from the use or misuse of the information contained herein are entirely the responsibility of the user.

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Danger from Electricity: A Very Tragic Story of a 15 Year-old Boy

Rescue 911 - Episode 320 - Dock Electrocution "A teenager is electrocuted while working on a boat lift. This segment was taken from Episode 320 which aired on March 17, 1992 on CBS." as quoted in the YouTube video description.

The young man did not die but could have if it were not for the first responders using a defibrillator multiple times.

-a good reason for those working with electricity to have an emergency defibrillator in close proximity to the first aid kit.

Notice in the video when his father unplugged the power cord to the motor, the young man received a jolt that stopped his heart. The situation was compounded by being in water up to his chest.

Inductive Spike

When I open the switch on this simulation, the voltage across it jumps to over 2,000 volts.

Test it for yourself. Let the current flow reach about 50 mA through the switch before opening it.

See Inductive Kickback Simulation Applet.

[TanTric]

HI

anyone can help?

i reversed my step down transformer (I/P 220 50hz O/P 10V 1A) , and im feeding it with a variable wall adapter 3, 4.5, 6, 9, 12V ... the transformer is 10W, and it is consuming that, and maybe more at 12V it can reach 1.5/2Amps, depends on the load... but my output, that should be the same 10W is not solid... with a neon on the load it shows 110VAC, but with my 25 W (220VAC) Lamp, it only shows 45 V across it, lightning barely the filaments!

i putted a diode to half way rectify, and measured the current with an analogic amp meter, and it shows 30miliAmps, but the DC voltage, is still 45VDC, should not be only half if compared with FULL AC?

I should put 10VDC x 1A (10W), and get 220VAC at 45miliAmps (10W) onload! but fore shore im doing something wrong!

the circuit below shows a pull-push circuit activated with 50Hz signal from timer circuit, but i cannot even put the push pull combination to work, it only works if i use just the one transistor (NPN), in standard setup... (timer output to base/ emiter to negative/ colector to primary / primary to positive)

somebody can have an idea of what probably is wrong with it? please?

EDIT: if i try to measure the output without load... my DMM get nuts! maybe wrong frequencys, but i used all the values exactly as the diagram!




DC to AC Inverter by IC 555 and TIP41 TIP42
This entry was posted on Saturday, July 19th, 2008 at 12:03 am and is filed under 555, inverter.

This be basic AC inverter Circuit. Convenient for the initiator who have to is extremely fond of something experience. Because of use IC 555 highly popular, perform produce the frequency ,then enlarge with transistor NPN and PNP number TIP41 and TIP42 drive the coil transformer. Get by can pay Voltage output about 120V to 230V at frequency 50Hz . By have R4 perform control the frequency and should use. Voltage supply about 5V to 15V the detail sees in circuit picture sir.

[seth]

More chance of being struck by lightning than dying using a 12V battery.

I find it rather ironic that i personally use a 12V battery out of concern for the safety of me and my family (and have tried to persuade others afraid of using a MOT to give a low power Kap a try), whilst everyone else uses a MOT...... and its ME who gets a lecture about safety every 2 mins....

Take things carefully if you want to, but heh, you wanna grab the output wires on a MOT and ignore reasonable advice, well i aint gonna stop you. Thats true freedom....freedom to act recklessly if one so desires.

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Electrical Safety Training



Awesome video by Don L. Steiner, president of DL Steiner, Inc.: See Electrical Safety Training Video

Electrical Dangers from
1. Electric Shock
2. Arc Flash
3. Arc Blast

Very sobering video.

[dragon]

Argumentum Ad Hominem Personal attacks on your opponent are an admission of intellectual bankruptcy.

I disagree with you. No one here is doing what you claim.

The point here is to show others who might read your post about this matter that the danger from electric shock is real and present.

That man lost his life from a macroshock, and he was a professional, used to dealing with electricity. If he were here and alive now, he would be telling you the same thing that I am telling you now.

When dealing with electricity, there is either danger from macroshock or microshock. The point is both forms of electric shock can kill you.

The fact is discounting the danger from electric shock as you have done and advocating others do the same is a very poor choice.

I would have to agree, any work with electric circuits needs a certain amount of common sense reguardless of voltage. Granted the lower voltage stuff is less likely to cause harm but used in the wrong way can be deadly. I don't remember exactly but I believe charging a cap to approximately 16 joules can kill you if discharged through your body. Higher voltage simply makes it more likely to find a path.

It's easy to get caught up in the moment of experimenting and sometimes we don't completely think things through. When using a MOT or other high power transformer you absolutely have to stop and think before making a move. You don't get a second chance with these. Lower power stuff you get a wake up call and in most circumstances you'll definately learn from this lesson (hopefully). The Kapagen as laid out using a MOT can and will kill you and all precautions should be taken. Shut it down and discharge the cap before making any changes and always use the one hand rule !

Have fun but play safe !
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The Danger of Discounting Electric Shock Hazards

Using someone elses death to prove a point really shows a man of low character.

Argumentum Ad Hominem Personal attacks on your opponent are an admission of intellectual bankruptcy.

I disagree with you. No one here is doing what you claim.

The point here is to show others who might read your post about this matter that the danger from electric shock is real and present.

That man lost his life from a macroshock, and he was a professional, used to dealing with electricity. If he were here and alive now, he would be telling you the same thing that I am telling you now.

When dealing with electricity, there is either danger from macroshock or microshock. The point is both forms of electric shock can kill you.

The fact is discounting the danger from electric shock as you have done and advocating others do the same is a very poor choice.

[seth]

Good Job, Luno!

for setting the record straight.

It is better to err on the side of caution when dealing with electricity. Reference shock. See microshock

YT Video: Power Company Lineman Electrocuted

Rest in Peace, Jake Booth.

He leaves behind a wife and a baby boy.

Using someone elses death to prove a point really shows a man of low character.

yeah, a MOT is deadly, and you're right to point it out to people. But come on...a 12V battery. You're worse than the news!

Fear is a disease. You wanna live a terrified existence, go right ahead. Be sure the rest of us are having a good time.

What about my 6V video? should i post a disclaimer?

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In Support of Luno

Good Job, Luno!

for setting the record straight.

It is better to err on the side of caution when dealing with electricity. Reference shock. See microshock

YT Video: Power Company Lineman Electrocuted

Rest in Peace, Jake Booth.

He leaves behind a wife and a baby boy.

[seth]

Hi everyone,

You are not right that there are no danger with 12 v . Even 9 v can kill a person. It depends on the places of your body which the potential. touches. Here is the picture of these places. The problem becomes more serious if you drink a little bit of alcohol.

How do i make something deadly with a twelve volt battery?? Probably a bit off topic, but if there is a way, might as well make myself a weapon before the global financial ponzi scheme collapses

I didnt think there was a way....though perhaps im mistaken???

Perhaps we should have a discaimer on every single thread here which states ''be careful, you might die tomorrow in a freak acident''....after all, it is true. We all lose people at young ages occasionally, and i am no exception.

Personally, I'm a little tired of disclaimers...yes, i know the response....its for your own good...

yada yada yada....

I'm an adult. If i die i know no-one is responsible except myself - im a big boy now!

[TanTric]

hmm

thank you luno.. is not that schematic to drive a TV flyback transformer? it is not to put out very high voltage?

i found a circuit that oscillate in 40Khz, maybe this would work?

Schematics Depot (tm) - 555 Timer 40khz IR Oscillator

[dragon]

I need a source of very cheap NST 2-9kV (higher is better) and up designed for 220V (better) or 120V and it's a small one - like that one used by Don Smith.I searched here but it's very hard to buy any one even old for a good price. They are priced too high for me in case of NST similiar to Bertonee.
Why they are pricing it so high ?

Maybe it is possible to just contruct one for myself from scratch if someone is willing to post schematic from one commercial model ?

"$6.50 allelectronics 2000 volt 10ma NST's ( 12 volt )" - wow ! can you post a picture of that one ?

It appears allelectronics is out of them, the exact same unit can be seen here... High Voltage, High Frequency Power Supplies . It's the minimax3 unit that I use on some of my low power/HV experiments
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[TanTric]

=)

thank you very much luno!

do you know some oscilator circuit to work with this setup? i dont have a frequency generator...

just one more thing, why 2 volts?

Hi,

66 KHz, 2 v

[TanTric]

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my friend! what a wonderfull video!!

and reallly good music!!

loved it... you rock!

I tried my 12V ''kapagen'' without the kapagen coil.....I replaced it with the 450 turn coil of my tesla secondary....

I got very similar results with either coil concerning how many CFLs were still lighting....

YouTube - Teslasecondary12-6V.flv

in the video you'll see the CFLs lighting, even from my 6V, 2.8 AH battery...surely less than 6 W....perhaps 1 or 2???

I'm starting to agree with juju's conclusions - we can light the same amount of bulbs with or without the kapagen....but only experiment will prove him right or wrong.

Good luck and have fun!!!

PS - interesting stuff dragon - well done!

[boguslaw]

I need a source of very cheap NST 2-9kV (higher is better) and up designed for 220V (better) or 120V and it's a small one - like that one used by Don Smith.I searched here but it's very hard to buy any one even old for a good price. They are priced too high for me in case of NST similiar to Bertonee.
Why they are pricing it so high ?

Maybe it is possible to just contruct one for myself from scratch if someone is willing to post schematic from one commercial model ?

"$6.50 allelectronics 2000 volt 10ma NST's ( 12 volt )" - wow ! can you post a picture of that one ?