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    • vortex tube

      i saw an ad for a vortex tube and clicked on it. i had not really heard about their properties before but it is a great demonstrator to show how temperature is able to be separated using centrifugal air spin. there obviously is a heavier and lighter aspect to temperature that can be centrifuged and separated to a good degree. google it. Eds device separates the energy in a PMH into two opposite ends, just like temperature/ centrifuge. now he had a differential to work with. in the same way temperature equalizes, magnetic current will flow till it is at a resting point. the generator at coral castle fully separates this energy, by weight. weight and inertia are able to interchange because they are the same thing. on one end of the scale is gravity pulling down, the other is pushing up away from gravity. the more spin=more created gravity, more gravity= more levity or anti grav produced. i believe that Ed brought the ends of his separated current back together and controlled the flow using a variable capacitor as to which way the current flowed. like Ed said the two currents ARE the same. if you think about a water level tube, if you push the tube down fast, water will flow through the tube till the level is equal, then no more flow. this is what Ed said, dividing, concentrating then running one against the other, or chasing its tail.

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      • Originally posted by david lambright View Post
        i saw an ad for a vortex tube and clicked on it. i had not really heard about their properties before but it is a great demonstrator to show how temperature is able to be separated using centrifugal air spin. there obviously is a heavier and lighter aspect to temperature that can be centrifuged and separated to a good degree. google it. Eds device separates the energy in a PMH into two opposite ends, just like temperature/ centrifuge. now he had a differential to work with. in the same way temperature equalizes, magnetic current will flow till it is at a resting point. the generator at coral castle fully separates this energy, by weight. weight and inertia are able to interchange because they are the same thing. on one end of the scale is gravity pulling down, the other is pushing up away from gravity. the more spin=more created gravity, more gravity= more levity or anti grav produced. i believe that Ed brought the ends of his separated current back together and controlled the flow using a variable capacitor as to which way the current flowed. like Ed said the two currents ARE the same. if you think about a water level tube, if you push the tube down fast, water will flow through the tube till the level is equal, then no more flow. this is what Ed said, dividing, concentrating then running one against the other, or chasing its tail.

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        • Hey,

          After reading thru almost every pages and comments, this is my opinion.
          Some background : I played with PMH too and I find it quite interesting.

          I don't know if the OP is just too excited about this or what, but IMHO there's nothing special there.

          If you guys are giving this any credibility at all, you're gullible as hell!

          There's nothing in these videos except compression artifacts, absolutely trivial optical illusion, video processing artifacts and noise etc..


          Nobody was able to confirm the supposed effects, there is no science in this, only thing I see is people "feeling" things, and yet, those same people say that science is wrong and shady. What is shady here is the simple fact that there's nothing measurable.



          >> all the methods you describe are needed to validate these findings. my problem is severe lack of funds.

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          • And let me point this out .. It's been what.. 2 years since the OP posted the first message?

            Ok.

            Why I didn't see a bigger device with bigger power source somewhere? Lack of funding?? :P

            If there's an effect there, wouldn't it show up MORE with a bigger device, harder metal, bigger metal mass, bigger battery, bigger dimensions?

            Shouldn't cost a lot to try....

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            • I'll give you some free ideas that should take about a couple of hours of testing and really it's so easy you should do it.

              1) Balance a beam on a post (form a T structure with some wood with a pivot on the middle of the Top bar on the T) .. Align your device under one side of the T (once the T has been balanced and it stay's horizontal) .. What happens?

              2) Your future video, take a laser pointer and point to where you actually see something, at the instant you see it. Your camera should be centered on what you see, not far off like all your other videos (no offence).

              3) Make a pendulum, again on a stand (it's important that you provide structure to your tests); swing the pendulum and put your device 1, under the pendulum, 2, on left side 3 on the other side. You should see some change in the frequency, the height of the bob or you will see nothing. A pendulum don't change in frequency, remember, it keeps time. So this is a good test because a pendulum is supposed to be constant. Again video tape this.

              4) Please, put your device on a table, with an ambiant lighting that is not directed directly on your setup. Don't put your device on the ground where you'll certainly feel cold drafts.

              5) Document every test and every event and every thing you do, in a book, with the Date and Time of event. This seem useless, but it's actualy a pretty good reference.

              6) Get a car battery, fully charged, upscale your models.

              7) If your device is creating light, no doubt it will show in the dark.

              8) Put a compass near your device at all time in every tests.

              9) Get an infrared Temperature sensor (hand gun thermometer on dealextreme, they are cheap and useful.. There is also a ton of useful cheap instruments there) .


              I understand that you might not have the background, so don't take this as an offence, I'm trying to help. But with the data I see, there's not much unless it's measured correctly.
              Last edited by DensoHax; 01-05-2012, 06:24 AM.

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              • I agree, more substatial measurement is needed than odd video effects.

                Your 1) suggestion is for sure cost free, but may more show anything, with with a real local gravity enhancer. We cannot decide beforehand how it works. We don't even really understand gravity itself, although some like to, while disagreeing.
                A variation though, would be to balance under a pivot, and winch that up quickly, to add inertia. It might pull to one side if the device has gravitic effects.

                Dave and replicators, please stop the theory and do a couple simple tests. Find a way to measure what you are "sensing"!

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                • But with the data I see, there's not much unless it's measured correctly.
                  Which can be a problem working on a limited budget.
                  I can see the effect now with his newer videos. Its his laser experiment that really interests me.

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                  • Originally posted by Iotayodi View Post
                    Which can be a problem working on a limited budget.
                    I can see the effect now with his newer videos. Its his laser experiment that really interests me.
                    Can you post the link?

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                    • Can you post the link?
                      "when i aim my laser at the device,from 10 feet away, i can feel a force pushing back !!"

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                      • I didn't find the video where he aims a laser at the machine, the link you give me is the first page of this thread.

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                        • I didn't find the video where he aims a laser at the machine, the link you give me is the first page of this thread.
                          Thats where he made the statement. It was just a handheld consumer laser light,

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                          • Originally posted by Iotayodi View Post
                            Thats where he made the statement. It was just a handheld consumer laser light,
                            So there's no video of the laser.
                            What do you find interesting in the new videos?

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                            • What do you find interesting in the new videos?
                              Just that I can see the distortion which I couldnt in his first ones.

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                              • i am still skeptcial

                                but hundreds people have seen this in person and at least ten people have replicated these devices and have seen and felt the same things. this is new. this is real. the videos suck. seeing this in person would remove some of the skepticism. my next step is oregon state university's physics dept. if it is nothing they will show why, if it is what i say, well, we will see what they have to say about that too. thanks

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