gravity waves found

[IndianaBoys]

Cost to send Jetijs a PMH builf by Daivd?

David,

What would the shipping cost be to send a working PMH you built to Jetijs?

Before sending it, you verify that it you see the fields emanating from it.

IndianaBoys

[Cloxxki]

a suggestion to make these things work better:

build the entire ring out of 1 piece of metal, by bending all the sections. That way there's only 1 gap to worry about making good contact. It will be more work at the beginning, but way easier in the long run.

This ring David has. It locks fine, just didn't exhibit the anomalous effects.

There seems to be significance of the 4-pole effect also. And Ed just a 4-leaf 2nd layer. There may be need for the magnetic bridges, like spark gaps for magnetricity, to open up a gateway of sorts.

It is strange that Jetijs' awesome work is not being rewarded while David just threw tother his own replication,a nd it was better than the first. I SO hope that the effect is not location-related, and Jetijs can get the effects from things like the aluminum under flate, or the carrying cutting board.

[SuperCaviTationIstic]

a suggestion to make these things work better:

build the entire ring out of 1 piece of metal, by bending all the sections. That way there's only 1 gap to worry about making good contact. It will be more work at the beginning, but way easier in the long run.

EDIT:

I also suggested to David that you could use a lens with an interference pattern to see the interference pattern. Perhaps as simply as placing 2 cheapo fresnel lenses on top of each other and offsetting the center point. Or 2 window screens. Or maybe even multiple polarizing lenses with lines of polarization at differing angles.

[Jetijs]

Hi all
Today I tried to put the segments together in reverse, like this:



I had to magnetize it, remove the coil and only then put it on the rotating platform, because the coil would be in the way otherwise. I still don't see anything, but the sensations are about the same. Then I thought that maybe the aluminum rim of the fan has some effect on this, so I removed the rim:





Still nothing. Will also remove the plastic blades.
No luck yet, but we will get there eventually.

[witsend]

wit...i know you have ...you will get this!...david

[david lambright]

wit...i know you have ...you will get this!...david

[witsend]

Water is the only other variable. Is it real humid where you live?If not, then it must be using moisture from the atmosphere to cause this effect.Interesting that it would effect both gravity and light.This would seem to suggest that both are interconnected in some way.

Hi Stealth. Not sure of your point here. Water is hardly the cause of gravity as gravity is a understood as a universal field and there is no known saturation of space. I think that the effect is unrelated to atmospheric conditions as Dave is not able to duplicate the Schlieren effect.

[witsend]

i will try on a smaller scale,2" is HUGE...you are correct, though i wonder about limits...is there a point where lock will not get stronger?...my largest dia.PMH is a mere 5/8 "...like you said, different voltages and different amperage DO create a stronger lock...i believe there is a saturation point..super cav suggested a leyden jar spark to energize the pmh....i have not tried that yet...i did try a peizo to energize a small pmh but no success yet....any thing is possible...we just have to build it....i built and energized a small device...40mm dia.....i will post a video....jet you have been working so hard on this project ....my thanks goes out to you......david

Dave - I get it that the level of 'lock' is not critical to the 'effect'. I guess it's just a question of experimenting to see which is the more effective. I'm also surprised to see how much work Jet has done on this. Amazing stuff Jet. And Dave, I've also been working very hard here.

[david lambright]

David, I am not sure about that. I have a giant PMH built from a 2" diameter steel rod and it has two coils on it each about 1000 turns of wire. I also had the impression that too much current might be an overkill, but then I tried to lock this huge and heavy U shaped piece on a steel bar and let it hang on its own weight. I used a small 9v battery for this. It would lock and hold its own weight, but I can easily break the lock. This 9v battery can supply about 300mA of peak current. Then I tried the same using a big 12v battery with way higher peak currents and I also achieved a lock, but this lock was way stronger. If the previous lock could barely hold the U shape piece hanging, then wing a 12v battery I had to put considerable force to break the lock. So I guess the bigger the energizing current the better. Will post picture tomorrow
Thanks,
Jetijs

i will try on a smaller scale,2" is HUGE...you are correct, though i wonder about limits...is there a point where lock will not get stronger?...my largest dia.PMH is a mere 5/8 "...like you said, different voltages and different amperage DO create a stronger lock...i believe there is a saturation point..super cav suggested a leyden jar spark to energize the pmh....i have not tried that yet...i did try a peizo to energize a small pmh but no success yet....any thing is possible...we just have to build it....i built and energized a small device...40mm dia.....i will post a video....jet you have been working so hard on this project ....my thanks goes out to you......david

[Jetijs]

i am glad you saw it!...i believe too much input power is over kill... ...david

David, I am not sure about that. I have a giant PMH built from a 2" diameter steel rod and it has two coils on it each about 1000 turns of wire. I also had the impression that too much current might be an overkill, but then I tried to lock this huge and heavy U shaped piece on a steel bar and let it hang on its own weight. I used a small 9v battery for this. It would lock and hold its own weight, but I can easily break the lock. This 9v battery can supply about 300mA of peak current. Then I tried the same using a big 12v battery with way higher peak currents and I also achieved a lock, but this lock was way stronger. If the previous lock could barely hold the U shape piece hanging, then wing a 12v battery I had to put considerable force to break the lock. So I guess the bigger the energizing current the better. Will post picture tomorrow
Thanks,
Jetijs

[rave154]

David,

your last video, i could definitely see it, it looked to me almost like dry ice was pouring out of the end of the tube and downwards.....but it wasnt as thick as dry ice would be..a lot more.....wispy.

i wonder how jet is coming along?

[Stealth]

The fact that we are seeing a rainbow effect would indicate a dissasociation of light. Just as a prism does when white light strikes it. It seperates all the different light wave frequencies and causes all the different colors. Water is the only other variable. Is it real humid where you live?If not, then it must be using moisture from the atmosphere to cause this effect.Interesting that it would effect both gravity and light.This would seem to suggest that both are interconnected in some way. I will build one to experiment with when I get the time.Thanks! Good Luck. stealth

[IndianaBoys]

Wilhelm Reich Orgone Draw Bucket

hi...i did better this time...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pr2FFcb46E....also bruce, #2 is in the mail...i went ahead and paid the postage ive got the ups tracking #, i can tell you when to expect it...i wish i could be there at THE moment you see it!.....david

David,

Good job! Yes, they are visible.

Seeing the tube directing energy from your PMH reminded me of the Wilhelm Reich Orgone Draw Bucket apparatus.

Posted about this sometime ago:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3258-wilhelm-reich.html#post36345

You might find incorporating the draw bucket and your PMH together produce a more effects in some way.

IndianaBoys

[Bruce_TPU]

Computer error... bump!

[david lambright]

wit!

i always do charge it both ways, just to make a good "flux path".....a small plastic compass works well...you will get it!...david