gravity waves found

[Harvey]

Spiralout,

You may want to give a blue light in a dark room a whirl.
Shade the light so you keep from looking at it directly.
You can locate the light in different positions around the PMH and off to the side. Not a black light but a blue type of light from Target, Kmart, Walmart, etc...

For those skeptical of this, set it up in front of a mirror and look at your own reflection in a relaxed dark setting with the blue light. You may be in for a surprise as to what becomes visible!

IndianaBoys

I've noticed this also - My HD tuner has a Blue LED (on) and a Red LED (off) and the blue LED lights up the whole room while the red barely gives any light at all. There is simply a lot more energy in those blue photons.

[CatLady]

Adie - I have been trying to get my mind around your centrifugal force number. I watched your Youtube link. Again. Superb graphics. I'm sort of beginning to see how you look at things. And you're in really good company. Clearly many think like you do. I've been watching those videos by SpreadingtheMuse - I think by Bernard Finnigan? Not sure of the first name. Very good indeed. Have you seen them? May be worth a 'look in'.

YouTube - The Physics of Starship Battles: Artificial Gravity and Centrifugal Force

Hey, I just watched this same video posted in #964. Maybe thats where you got it from?


TheTruthBeKnown

[gravityblock]

Where did Bruce go?
Any new observations?

Bruce has just moved and his computer is not yet connected. I'm looking forward to his update.

GB

[IndianaBoys]

My only concern is that it depends on 'imagined' faces - facts.

Witsend,

Help us all better understand what "your cup of tea is"?

What is your purpose in discounting this without doing the exercise?

You provide an armchair opinion of "imagined" without giving it a whirl.

It is very much in line with assisting Dave and those with PMH's to see waves emanating from it.

The idea behind using a blue light allows for an easier time to see the waves emanating from the PMH. The use of blue has been used in the past to help train the eyes to see electromagnetic radiation by Walter John Kilner. That idea carried forward to the glasses used in the movie "They Live".

Walter John Kilner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

IndianaBoys

[Adie123]

LOL Adie. I never knew this. At its least it shows us that either the Big Bang theory is wrong or that they've got the dates wrong. Or that the speed of light is somewhat greater than C - God forbid. Priceless piece of informtaion.

check this out Hubble Deep Field

update of same Hubble Deep Field a little wierdly editted with clips of other youtube vids but this one mentions images of 78 billion lightyears away.


Also as Catlady commented, Harvey posted that battleship video at post #964

[witsend]

Hi again Adie. I watched these last links of yours. Very nice indeed.

Also as Catlady commented, Harvey posted that battleship video at post #964

I know this. I wasn't sure if you'd watched them is all. In my opinion that is is a significant link as it relates to your thesis.

In some ways your ideas on centrifugal forces are not unlike my own. I also need orbits - but I need magnetic fields to orbit. Which, in the first instance, means that I need them to be extant away from electric fields. And I propose three different types of magnetic field - being 1, 2 and 3 dimensional. We know of and use the 3 dimensional field - which always takes the fundamental shape of a toroid. The other two are hidden within and around the atomic structure itself. The 1 dimensional field I attribute to the Casimir effect. They keep matter bound - in one condition - and loosen their grip in another. But the only localised spin - in my own thesis - is in the fields themselves. In other words the electron is pushed into an orbit. Our planet is pushed into an orbit. And so on And since I see the biggest toroidal field - being the whole of the universe - then technically it's also spinning. But Adie - I can't get my head around a centrifugal force unless it's also somehow made of 'something' - some material. But that speaks to my own limitations. Not yours.

[witsend]

Witsend,

Help us all better understand what "your cup of tea is"?

I'm possibly not as spiritually 'advanced' as you guys are - Indiana. I do not hold with 'third eyes' and such like. But - as a general philosophical proposition - it's certainly interesting.

What is your purpose in discounting this without doing the exercise?

Discounting it? That would have involved a discussion. I simply do not spend time on it as it holds no appeal for me - personally. Not sure why you should find this objectionable. I'm happy that you - unlike me - understand it. Nor would I prescribe your interests. Please don't prescribe mine.

You provide an armchair opinion of "imagined" without giving it a whirl.

Indeed. I find it entirely engrossing to look at science and scientific theories. Not actually into philosophy at all.

It is very much in line with assisting Dave and those with PMH's to see waves emanating from it.

I'll tell you what. Now that it's been pointed out that a blue light is 'more energetic' then indeed I intend to view my own rig through a blue light. So. Thanks for the tip.

[Jetijs]

Hi all
A little update from me. I finally got the laser cut plates. They are 200mm in diameter and 6mm thick. I guess I will have to wind more than one coil on these plates, because the overall flux path length in this plate is way longer than in the bent half tube setup. I have three of such plates. Will keep you up to date.





Thanks,
Jetijs

[ABCStore]

I'll bet Leedskalnin's device is still operational.

ABC

[Harvey]

Hi all
. . . I guess I will have to wind more than one coil on these plates, because the overall flux path length in this plate is way longer than in the bent half tube setup. . . .

I noticed after carefully looking at Ed's setup that he has 4 coils 90° apart. They are embedded under the 'stucco' but wrap around the 'clover leaf' at each dip.

A special PMH could be used to magnetize the poles on your laser-cut-rings. The pole faces of the PMH would need to be ground to 82.5° so they would lay flat against the poles of your elements. Iron Powder can be used to fill any gaps and ensure a good path for the magnetic flux. In this way, you can get the same magnetic arrangement that Ed had, without the permeable gaps in between. Each V becomes the cross bar for the PMH and that magnetizes the V. Simply alternate the PMH on each neighbor V charging each in succession.

Then when you are done, you can energize the entire ring using David Lambright's technique, first one way, then the other. This could set up an oscillation in the ring because half of the V magnets face the opposite direction, but the domains want to align with the circle flux. That demagnetization causes a flux change which results in eddy currents in the material that could result in a reversal of the flux and the possible oscillation. Conventional physics would expect the oscillation to dampen as energy is dissipated, but with Leedskalnin, who knows what may happen.

I might add too, that Ed could have understood thermocouple action well enough to force dissimilar metals into the gaps between magnets and that could have converted ambient heat to electric current in the ring.

[rave154]

jet..is your latest photo..all cut out of a single piece of steel?????????

[Harvey]

7 Circle Geometry continued

. . .

Now - how many 2" circles can you fit inside that big 13.38" center circle? Will they be nicely fitted? How does that relate to the 7 circles? What unique geometry occurs on the third layer from the center? Why?

Rather than leave everyone hanging - and since a picture is worth a thousand words, I thought I would put this up:

Zoom Picture

You will notice that in the first layer we have a single circle.

In the second layer we have six circles around the first layer. A true circle can be plotted through the center of each of those circles using the first layer center as the larger circle center.

In the third layer however, the real geometry emerges. Here we find that we cannot plot a circle through all 12 third layer circles. Some have a different distance from the group center.

In the forth layer we learn that the geometry is scaling. From here on, it will be a larger and larger hexagon as noted by the RED line.

Note that the Blue Line is an equilateral triangle. This is true of every layer from two onwards. You will notice that the number of circles for any given side of the triangle increases by one for each layer. So, the second layer has 2 circles on each side of the triangle, the third layer has 3, the fourth layer has 4 and so on.

So in answer to my questions above, you now you know the unique geometry and why and also know that the circles will not fit nicely into a circle arrangement because there are gaps along the hexagonal faces and the superscribed circle.

[Agent.A]

@ Jetijs

[Jetijs]

jet..is your latest photo..all cut out of a single piece of steel?????????

Yes, that is cut out from a single piece of steel sheet, 6mm thick.

I noticed after carefully looking at Ed's setup that he has 4 coils 90° apart. They are embedded under the 'stucco' but wrap around the 'clover leaf' at each dip.

A special PMH could be used to magnetize the poles on your laser-cut-rings. The pole faces of the PMH would need to be ground to 82.5° so they would lay flat against the poles of your elements. Iron Powder can be used to fill any gaps and ensure a good path for the magnetic flux. In this way, you can get the same magnetic arrangement that Ed had, without the permeable gaps in between. Each V becomes the cross bar for the PMH and that magnetizes the V. Simply alternate the PMH on each neighbor V charging each in succession.

Then when you are done, you can energize the entire ring using David Lambright's technique, first one way, then the other. This could set up an oscillation in the ring because half of the V magnets face the opposite direction, but the domains want to align with the circle flux. That demagnetization causes a flux change which results in eddy currents in the material that could result in a reversal of the flux and the possible oscillation. Conventional physics would expect the oscillation to dampen as energy is dissipated, but with Leedskalnin, who knows what may happen.

I might add too, that Ed could have understood thermocouple action well enough to force dissimilar metals into the gaps between magnets and that could have converted ambient heat to electric current in the ring.

Thanks for the idea! I will try this out.

@ Jetijs

Jetijs

[Cloxxki]

Rather than leave everyone hanging - and since a picture is worth a thousand words, I thought I would put this up:

Zoom Picture

You will notice that in the first layer we have a single circle.

In the second layer we have six circles around the first layer. A true circle can be plotted through the center of each of those circles using the first layer center as the larger circle center.

In the third layer however, the real geometry emerges. Here we find that we cannot plot a circle through all 12 third layer circles. Some have a different distance from the group center.

In the forth layer we learn that the geometry is scaling. From here on, it will be a larger and larger hexagon as noted by the RED line.

Note that the Blue Line is an equilateral triangle. This is true of every layer from two onwards. You will notice that the number of circles for any given side of the triangle increases by one for each layer. So, the second layer has 2 circles on each side of the triangle, the third layer has 3, the fourth layer has 4 and so on.

So in answer to my questions above, you now you know the unique geometry and why and also know that the circles will not fit nicely into a circle arrangement because there are gaps along the hexagonal faces and the superscribed circle.

Great stuff Harvey!

Are you able to explain the (apparentlycounted to be) 4 poles in the 24-section PMH, when your design here offers anything but 90 degree angles?

Ed's 4-clover layer I believe should be vital towards understanding what he did, and how to take it to his level of operation. I could speculate to the point of some special constant overbalance, but would not be able to even argument it.

@Jetijs, I can't wait to learn of your progress! :-)
Seems you'll be energizing it without segmenting it? I wonder if that will affect performance in any way. Good luck with your work on this!