Perpetual Motion Holder | Edward Leedskalnin

[graphitebone]

pmh for $17

American Science & Surplus : Excellent Electomagnet

thought it was interesting, begin experimenting for 17 bucks

[jacek]

American Science & Surplus : Excellent Electomagnet

thought it was interesting, begin experimenting for 17 bucks

I got this electromagnet from them a while ago and can confirm that the soft steel bar 'sticks' to the electromagnet after energizing it (the electromagnet) for a fraction of a second. Pretty cool gadget.

[psykopanther]

hate to bring up a old post on the pmh, but either i am repeatedly missing this or it is not stated in Eds book. Where does it state to wire both coils to themselves? From what i understand of how everyone is doing this, we are suppose to connect the coils by the top wire on the left coil to the bottom wire on the right coil, and bottom on left to top of right. basically the infinity symbol. but does ed say specifically to do this? again sorry to bring this back up but trying to verify the basics before i pursue anything deeper with his projects.

[logos]

from the picture on the cover of animal mineral and vegetable life!

[Loadstone]

@ psykopanther....about the coil connections...Ed wrote this ". Connect the battery with the coils so that each current is running in both coils at the same time, and so that one end of the bar is North Pole and the other South Pole."
Lets say the coils each had an open end...one on the left, or west side and one on the right, or east side.....now we connect the pos to the East wire and neg to the west wire of the coils....by doing that the pos magnets from the battery first have to run in the east coil before they enter the west coil....and the neg magnets from the battery have to go through the west coil before the east one.....Ed said the magnets have to run in both coils at the same time so it means the coils must be connected.

Like i stated earlier, the pmh is just to prove that a constant "electric current" is running in the pmh metal bar after the battery is disconnected....Ed demonstrated that by the crossbars ability to displace a magnetized needle that is suspended obove it....the same way a current carrying wire does according to the right hand rule....
Cheers....
Scotty.

[erfinder]

@ psykopanther....about the coil connections...Ed wrote this ". Connect the battery with the coils so that each current is running in both coils at the same time, and so that one end of the bar is North Pole and the other South Pole."
Lets say the coils each had an open end...one on the left, or west side and one on the right, or east side.....now we connect the pos to the East wire and neg to the west wire of the coils....by doing that the pos magnets from the battery first have to run in the east coil before they enter the west coil....and the neg magnets from the battery have to go through the west coil before the east one.....Ed said the magnets have to run in both coils at the same time so it means the coils must be connected.

Like i stated earlier, the pmh is just to prove that a constant "electric current" is running in the pmh metal bar after the battery is disconnected....Ed demonstrated that by the crossbars ability to displace a magnetized needle that is suspended obove it....the same way a current carrying wire does according to the right hand rule....
Cheers....
Scotty.

Hello Scotty,

Glad to see you still at it, theres more to the PMH (I'm sure you are well aware of that). We should have a chat and talk about a few things its been too long. Send me a PM if you are interested.



Regards

[Dave45]

The electric field runs ninety degrees to the magnetic field, so if there is a magnetic field running in the pmh there is a electric field running ninety degrees to the magnetic.
As long as the bar is connected there is a magnetic field running through the pmh, that means there is also an electric field there as well, a standing field.

So if we have a fixed amount of magnetic flux running through the pmh, then the electric field has a fixed amount of electric field, If we draw from the electric field the magnetic flux has not changed so the pmh will draw from the aether to replace the electric field.

[david lambright]

What i have found is that Eds PMH held this energy forever, till the core loop is broken. His generator at coral castle is a PMH, the magnetism is residual, left over from being energized like any iron PMH will do. The field that PMH makes can be oriented by gravity, artificial or natural. The artificial way Ed used was centrifugal so that the center line [axis] and equatorial plane are opposite sides of the energy he termed magnetic current. I have also found that this energy is absolutely and completely visible. VISIBLE energy field - YouTube and Enhanced version] A TRULY VISIBLE MAGNETIC FLOW - YouTube are a couple of examples of just how visible this field can be. I am still trying to get usable video of a piece of coral deforming in this field, what i mean by that is i can push down on the coral and it bends ever so slightly but even a deformation of hundredths or even thousandths would be significant, wouldn't it ? And the way a PMH can induce giant paramagnetism in MANY metals, [aluminum, LEAD, magnesium etc.] and even heating the lead to melting did not cause the metal to loose its newfound property, just showing that this energy is profound in its abilities. With the coral, it is like the density is being manipulated, making it become softer and lighter. There is another thing i have noticed, is that at times, certain objects SEEM to loose some of their opaque-ness, but movement, or another form of energy has to be added to get that effect. I have seen a video from John Hutchinson that has many similarities to what I and many others are experiencing with the devices I make. I believe John makes something similar but with HF radio and other waves as the extra energy needed, added to a PMH type field, to obtain his effects. I believe that he looses a lot in controlability of the effect, using electrically produced fields and that Ed made the same type of field using magnetics as its source so he gained a better control of the energy fields . Edward Leedskalnin cut and placed many tons of stone. He said he used the generator, at his castle, to accomplish this feat, i believe he did just that and it is those same energy fields that I have rediscovered.

[Dave45]

If you want to see the fields immerse the pmh in distilled water and freeze it, try to keep metal objects away from the cell as it freezes.
Keep the coils in a vertical position

[StwartMad]

Possible experimentations on the PMH

I just used the PMH as an induction coil yesterday and got an output of 80 volts from a 12 volt battery. Now it has been awhile since I made it so I do not remember the turn anymore but I know that there is 250 feet on each prong of 28 AWG magnet wire, with that stuff in mind I am thinking of doing it again but this time with iron wire bundles inside aluminum square tubes with flat bars on the ends therefore making a square or rectangle. What do you think it will cause due to having many different magnets on each "prong"?

[Vinyasi]

Two reversals of both soft and hard electrons? - Joseph Cater.

Alright i made that video i promised. I finaly figured out how to download the video so you can see all the flashes, which you really need to in order to understand what im doing. There are 2 different effects im showing here. The first effect is just kind of like Duh.... of course that works, but i havnt seen anyone relate this yet. And the second one is very strange and is really baffleing me. It apperars(visually) to be giving out more energy than the energy applyied Im not saying that is what it actually is doing, but it does appear that way. Perhaps someone has a rational explanation for me. Anyways, let me know what you think
YouTube - Ed Leedskalnin 3

I'm sorry I'm so lazy that I'll answer this before looking any further into this topic's pages...

My guess is that there are two forces at work here: a memory, and the actualization of that memory inside the PMH.

So, the toggling back and forth can't initially light the LED because the PMH already remembers which way the prior flow of energy was directed within its circular path. This would imply that there are two reversals occurring simultaneously within every AC transformer during each half cycle: a reversal of its memory of the direction of flow and the actualization of its reversal (which is what everyone looks for: an output).

The reason why I suggest this, is on account of Joseph Cater's series of books, such as: The Awesome Life Force, which describes hard electrons contained within soft electrons. If soft electrons are moved about with either: no expense of energy (no resistance), or else an expense of energy less than 'breaking' the soft electrons which encapsulate the hard electrons to release their greater amount of energy, then an overunity results. {If I quote him accurately from dim memory of my own. }

So, this could imply two flows going on within a PMH: one of soft electrons and another of hard. Thus, there are two actions to take in reversing the polarity of flow for every PMH or AC transformer demonstration. It's just that in the case of an AC transformer, both polarity reversals happen at the same time, while in the case of the PMH set of reversals -- as aptly demonstrated by your YouTube video -- each reversal has to occur separate from the other.

[Vinyasi]

Two coils, wired as a single, provide for two center taps to connect to power source.

hate to bring up a old post on the pmh, but either i am repeatedly missing this or it is not stated in Eds book. Where does it state to wire both coils to themselves? From what i understand of how everyone is doing this, we are suppose to connect the coils by the top wire on the left coil to the bottom wire on the right coil, and bottom on left to top of right. basically the infinity symbol. but does ed say specifically to do this? again sorry to bring this back up but trying to verify the basics before i pursue anything deeper with his projects.

It's a problem of perspective. Slide both coils together and they should be wound and wired as if they were one and the same coil. Yet, they could be split into two separate coils with one slid over to the opposite side making it turn upside down during its slide which makes it appear as if it needs to be wired to the other coil on the opposing side in reverse polarity (which is not the case). Or, keep them together as one coil. Someone (I can't remember who) had only one coil on only one leg of the horseshoe shape which implies what sort of connection to make among multiple coils should you elect to split one into many.

On the other hand...

I stand corrected...

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3969-perpetual-motion-holder-edward-leedskalnin-5.html#post120300

The above is indicating that a continuous looped pair of coils are being used with two taps on opposite sides of the continuous loop. Kind of like having multiple taps on a cylindrical coil winding in a crystal radio set to help tune to various frequencies. But here, the purpose is different. The multiple two taps are for connecting to a power source, because we're dealing with a circular core and a circular coil without any 'ends' to either. And these two taps are placed symmetrically equidistant with respect to how much length of wire is separating the taps on either side of each tap measuring from one tap to the other tap traveling in either direction around the loop. {tap dancing smiley}

[Vinyasi]

Longitudinal vs Transverse = Soft vs Hard Electrons?

I'm sorry I'm so lazy that I'll answer this before looking any further into this topic's pages...

My guess is that there are two forces at work here: a memory, and the actualization of that memory inside the PMH.

So, the toggling back and forth can't initially light the LED because the PMH already remembers which way the prior flow of energy was directed within its circular path. This would imply that there are two reversals occurring simultaneously within every AC transformer during each half cycle: a reversal of its memory of the direction of flow and the actualization of its reversal (which is what everyone looks for: an output).

The reason why I suggest this, is on account of Joseph Cater's series of books, such as: The Awesome Life Force, which describes hard electrons contained within soft electrons. If soft electrons are moved about with either: no expense of energy (no resistance), or else an expense of energy less than 'breaking' the soft electrons which encapsulate the hard electrons to release their greater amount of energy, then an overunity results. {If I quote him accurately from dim memory of my own. }

So, this could imply two flows going on within a PMH: one of soft electrons and another of hard. Thus, there are two actions to take in reversing the polarity of flow for every PMH or AC transformer demonstration. It's just that in the case of an AC transformer, both polarity reversals happen at the same time, while in the case of the PMH set of reversals -- as aptly demonstrated by your YouTube video -- each reversal has to occur separate from the other.

Maybe soft electrons are equivalent to longitudinal waves and hard electrons are equivalent to transverse waves?

Newton's Cradle might indicate that this is true, since the center spheres are stationary and seemingly contain the energy flowing through them from one side to the other. The end spheres would correspond to transverse waves composed of hard electron-style motion, while the center spheres might correspond to longitudinal waves composed of soft electron-style motion.



Or in an alternative description, are we supposing that potential energy (longitudinal wave / soft electrons) and kinetic energy (transverse wave / hard electrons) can be latent within electricity as well as physical motion? This would seem to be true, because we have authority figures such as John Shive's video, "AT&T Archives: Similiarities of Wave Behavior (Bonus Edition)" at AT&T Archive YouTube channel saying that there is a one to one correspondence between: electrical, mechanical and optical dynamics.

[Vinyasi]

Newton's Cradle defined to refute Einstein's Theory of Relative Reference Frames...

Maybe soft electrons are equivalent to longitudinal waves and hard electrons are equivalent to transverse waves?

Newton's Cradle might indicate that this is true, since the center spheres are stationary and seemingly contain the energy flowing through them from one side to the other. The end spheres would correspond to transverse waves composed of hard electron-style motion, while the center spheres might correspond to longitudinal waves composed of soft electron-style motion.



Or in an alternative description, are we supposing that potential energy (longitudinal wave / soft electrons) and kinetic energy (transverse wave / hard electrons) can be latent within electricity as well as physical motion? This would seem to be true, because we have authority figures such as John Shive's video, "AT&T Archives: Similiarities of Wave Behavior (Bonus Edition)" at AT&T Archive YouTube channel saying that there is a one to one correspondence between: electrical, mechanical and optical dynamics.

"a stationary body can have kinetic energy
moving through it"

Thanks @Handyandy for this linked set of PDFs!

[Vinyasi]

Pods are temporary Soft Electrons?

I'm sorry I'm so lazy that I'll answer this before looking any further into this topic's pages...

My guess is that there are two forces at work here: a memory, and the actualization of that memory inside the PMH.

So, the toggling back and forth can't initially light the LED because the PMH already remembers which way the prior flow of energy was directed within its circular path. This would imply that there are two reversals occurring simultaneously within every AC transformer during each half cycle: a reversal of its memory of the direction of flow and the actualization of its reversal (which is what everyone looks for: an output).

The reason why I suggest this, is on account of Joseph Cater's series of books, such as: The Awesome Life Force, which describes hard electrons contained within soft electrons. If soft electrons are moved about with either: no expense of energy (no resistance), or else an expense of energy less than 'breaking' the soft electrons which encapsulate the hard electrons to release their greater amount of energy, then an overunity results. {If I quote him accurately from dim memory of my own. }

So, this could imply two flows going on within a PMH: one of soft electrons and another of hard. Thus, there are two actions to take in reversing the polarity of flow for every PMH or AC transformer demonstration. It's just that in the case of an AC transformer, both polarity reversals happen at the same time, while in the case of the PMH set of reversals -- as aptly demonstrated by your YouTube video -- each reversal has to occur separate from the other.

I'll take a guess that F.D. Tombe's use of the term 'Pods' may be equivalent to Joseph Cater's term of 'soft electrons' making both a temporary phenomenon.