If current are electrons , what is the voltage ?

[boguslaw]

I realized that possibility quite recently.
Voltage could be ALSO ELECTRONS !

You see : particles can act as waves, I think that is their lowest state. Interference of waves create particles. To interference it's enough to make wave circulating, meet itself with slightly changed phase for example, or reflect from the boundary like inside wire.

The only difference between non-closed and closed circuits are not flowing current, that means electrons does not propagate.Why ? Because boundary is static and interference wavepackets cannot move .

[Xenomorph]

Hmm, the point you are making is a bit difficult to understand.
I´d be interested to understand what you mean.
As i understand it, voltage can not directly be attributed to electrons, it is
more a description of electron force interaction.

This is the (official) definition of voltage:

Electrical tension (or voltage after its SI unit, the volt) is the difference of electrical potential between two points of an electrical or electronic circuit, expressed in volts.[1] It is the measurement of the potential for an electric field to cause an electric current in an electrical conductor and is analogous to pressure in a fluid. Voltage is a property of an electric field, not individual electrons. Voltage, as a definition, can more easily be described as a representation of the "carrier" of electrons.

[barbosi]

I realized that possibility quite recently.
Voltage could be ALSO ELECTRONS !

Hehehe, you really need something material to step on, or to sniff, or taste ha? Something like popcorn seeds but smaller?

From Electrical curriculum: What is Voltage? you'll find how close is your "educated" guess.

Most people know about magnetic fields but not about e-fields or "voltage fields." In part, this is because magnetism is explained in school, but for some reason voltage fields are hidden away under the name "static electricity." E-fields are never mentioned in beginner's science textbooks. This is odd, since voltage and "static electricity" go together.

And personally I do not agree with that site more than I just quoted (and already regret my statement).
How about associating voltage with a stress in a spring you pull...? Or a cylinder where pulling a piston you try to create vacuum...? Does "pure vacuum" has anything to do with electrons? I'd rather say has to do with the lack of them.

[redeagle]

Voltage is the difference in potiential from one point to the other. It can be created by an imbalance of electons. But it is much more than just that because different electrons carry differen't amounts of energy. The way I look at it is that the electrons are only carriers of energy whether it be in the form of heat, momentum or something else. The electrons are not what powers the circuit when a connection is made, other wise you could just jam one end of a wire back to the other and it would work because they are always present.

But instead electrons in a conductor are excited by the potential applied to it. Then and only then can energy be transfered along the conductor. So electrons are the path way and only part of the driving force.

[sucahyo]

The way I see it now, voltage is torque and current is rpm. If you multiply both you get horsepower.

[redeagle]

The way I see it now, voltage is torque and current is rpm. If you multiply both you get horsepower.

that's right. Volts times Amps equals Watts. and Watts equal electrical horse power. but the big question is what really energy. Tom Bearden said in one of his interviews that he has asked electrical engineers what energy really is and they couldn't tell him.

If resistance causes heat, negative resistance absorbs it.

[Inquorate]

my two cents

Everyone should know my view on this. Voltage = polarity of aether or aether stream.

[Aromaz]

I realized that possibility quite recently.
Voltage could be ALSO ELECTRONS

@boguslaw You have light.
Voltage is just exactly that: Electrons.

[darkwizard]

Voltage aren`t electrons the proof is this:

Put 1 nano amper at 10 kvolts , then... you have some electrons but a lot of voltage so it is very simply , voltage is a measure of the electrostatic field is the diference between two charges, it can be two opposite charges or the same, or between vacuum and the point charge.

Read Coulomb law, Coulomb was a great genius

Voltage is the aenergy of a point charge, is the capacity of the point charge to do work over other charges.

Electrons generates voltage, of course, i'm not discussing this.

[darkwizard]

The electrostatic force arise from the exchange of virtual photons between the point charge (massive carrier) and the vacuum.

Virtual photons are the "aetheric wind" are virtual particles that are vibrating, appearing and dissapearing faster than speed of light, they conform the basic matrix, the Absolut, (The Ayin Soph) to put it mystical.-

Tesla called it the OMNI particle, it is the responsible of gravity, magnetism, etc.

[darkwizard]

Stephen Hawking explains in his book, A Brief History Of Time that virtual photons are the force carrying particles of the electromagnetic field.

http://www.geocities.com/Area51/Shire/3075/mfield.html

[sucahyo]

Another analogy, wind.

If electron is air, voltage is the difference of air pressure in different place, and current is the amount of air that move between place. The amount of air that move will also be influenced by connection between place. If there are barrier, the air that move will be reduced even if the difference of pressure is high.

I think current is not electron, and voltage is not electron. They exist because of electron, but that don't mean they are electron.

[Inquorate]

Darkwizard, Sucahyo

You guys put it better than me, but I agree.

[Ted Ewert]

Voltage is the measure of the difference of electrical pressure between two points in space. Current is what passes between those two points to equalize, or void that pressure differential. Water pressure is not the water, just as voltage is not the electron.

[boguslaw]

OK.I maybe misrepresented my point. I should say that IMHO electric potential is an electron wave, but it common sense we are talking about voltage when we apply a power source to the circuit.

I thought about that event when a bare copper wire is connected to voltage source forming open circuit. I think that potential which appear on wire is ELECTRONS in wave state, but once they flow and meet wire boundary they reflect and interference with themselves becouse their speed is far greater then light.

Electrons are formed as interference of electron wave reflected back in time (sic!) because it flows with extremally high speed. This is also the explanation why some interesting effects occur like orbitals or Heisenberg uncertainty principle.

Fortunately my concept IS easy to verification. There should be small difference of magnetic field between unconnected wire and when wire is connected to negative terminal of big power source (even if second end of wire is unconnected). I think Ed Leedscalnin was right, but we are only opening that possibilities.