High Voltage from Thin Air?

[DrStiffler]

Doctor,

Which one is 18 series? Can you post drawing?

On the latest S.R. video, what happens when you put apart and close towers?

Is this an active casimir cavity?

Do you have higher spatial coherence return or CEC value when cavity is smaller?

Does top hat has to be on top of an extra coil?

How did you calculate (tap turns at 37 and extra coil 106) Based on Tesla's magnifying transmitter?

@Nuri

I do not recognize Tesla, he is a groupies distraction. I fully understand the technology from Tesla we use today and great it is, but you enter into this area and what Tesla did, ha! is folk lore, if not why do we not have REPLICATIONS.

[H2inICE]

"lets hear what he has to say about Tezla was in my mind"

as I try to be objective to the path we are on......


Mr H2inICE

[Shamus]

Hi Doc,

I'd say that from the sound of it, tuning a varcap is much easier than tuning an inductor. Especially when you factor in the fact that you can make your own tool from a $1 dowel from the hardware store, it seems like a no-brainer to me.

You're not going to believe this, but the problem with the unlit on-board LED was due to the fact that one leg of one of the diodes was not soldered onto the board. After I checked the LED with your test and it tested out OK, I figured that I might as well go on down the line and sure enough, there was a break in the continuity when I tried the closer leg of diode #2. So I turned over the board and sure enough. In your defense I have to say that that's something that's very easy to miss, especially with such a small board.

So now the board appears to be functioning as it should. I just need to make another longer string of LEDs to demonstrate CEC > 1. ATM, it's lighting up a string of five and another string of ten to full brightness. Assuming the power consumption on those older LEDs (I'm pretty sure they're from the 80s) is higher than today's, it should be a slam dunk.

Thanks again Doc, I think you've got a winner with this one. Also, I haven't given up on the 1-wire circuit--I'll post more when there's more to report.

[Inquorate]

Flogging a winner

This is the third time I've posted this video, only 50 views.

Guess I'm preaching to the converted, but I found it interesting that the two LED's behave somewhat like a cap and coil in resonance, only this is with mass.

YouTube - sec exciter energy gain (NOT RF)

enjoy

[Inquorate]

The next step?

Baby steps

YouTube - excited mass and apparent gain differences

Increased output with increased mass and some capacitive geometries

[DrStiffler]

Hi Doc,

I'd say that from the sound of it, tuning a varcap is much easier than tuning an inductor. Especially when you factor in the fact that you can make your own tool from a $1 dowel from the hardware store, it seems like a no-brainer to me.

You're not going to believe this, but the problem with the unlit on-board LED was due to the fact that one leg of one of the diodes was not soldered onto the board. After I checked the LED with your test and it tested out OK, I figured that I might as well go on down the line and sure enough, there was a break in the continuity when I tried the closer leg of diode #2. So I turned over the board and sure enough. In your defense I have to say that that's something that's very easy to miss, especially with such a small board.

So now the board appears to be functioning as it should. I just need to make another longer string of LEDs to demonstrate CEC > 1. ATM, it's lighting up a string of five and another string of ten to full brightness. Assuming the power consumption on those older LEDs (I'm pretty sure they're from the 80s) is higher than today's, it should be a slam dunk.

Thanks again Doc, I think you've got a winner with this one. Also, I haven't given up on the 1-wire circuit--I'll post more when there's more to report.

@Shamus

Well it is in the end my problem, but it may not be one I built, anyway glad you found the problem.

You keep talking how small it is, lucky the surface mount boards never made it past prototype. I have small hands and one fits on my thumb nail, coil and all. Found could not build without machines and the needed interface parts cost X2 what the board did.

Looking forward to your tests.

Sorry for any trouble, what is the line, will learn from our mistakes and improve our methods and install better controls

[DrStiffler]

@All
I ran a SEC 15 yesterday evening using the reflected setting sunlight coming through a window. I have a small 12v/ 2watt panel that worked. It also worked off the 48 leds running on the SEC 18. I have a computer o-scope now and it worked great to show this happening.
Doc has a video of an led to solar panel feedback and this is what I was working at doing. What I didn't expect was that the panel picked up the energy around the SEC also and turned it into electricity even without the led light hitting the panel. Interesting stuff folks.

YouTube - Low Solar SEC & scope shots

Lidmotor

@Lidmotor

I know you may have already thought of this, yet if not you may have found the ultimate wide band receiving converter in your solar panel. The large diode array may be just the ticket. Here are some thoughts and I would try but do not at the time have even a small panel around.

Solar panel during day charges batteries (may provide some energy during day usage also). At night batteries run Exciters for lighting and solar panels can use both light and radiation pickup to charge second set of batteries. Don't think it would work with same battery in closed loop.

Now the cell has a real efficiency problem, but even 1/3 return could be worth the effort.

Anyway if you get around to trying it, that cell may be what is needed as a dual capacity receiver converter.

[DrStiffler]

This is the third time I've posted this video, only 50 views.

Guess I'm preaching to the converted, but I found it interesting that the two LED's behave somewhat like a cap and coil in resonance, only this is with mass.

YouTube - sec exciter energy gain (NOT RF)

enjoy

@Inquorate

Wow! I feel the pain. It is so upsetting that everyone cries for the freedom from the wrath of the utility companies yet when something of promise is around and shown they would rather look at some jerk blowing up a pop bottle with Hydrogen that at something real and with great potential.

I'm always told "But think of the thousands that are in the background" bet me, how are they lurking if they are not watching.

I have an Idea, lets use exciters to make Hydrogen and blow up bottles around little children and we will be stars.

[Inquorate]

@Inquorate

Wow! I feel the pain. It is so upsetting that everyone cries for the freedom from the wrath of the utility companies yet when something of promise is around and shown they would rather look at some jerk blowing up a pop bottle with Hydrogen that at something real and with great potential.

I'm always told "But think of the thousands that are in the background" bet me, how are they lurking if they are not watching.

I have an Idea, lets use exciters to make Hydrogen and blow up bottles around little children and we will be stars.

Dr Stiffler, that cracked me up! So true!

The pretty lights are good things to show the wives and partners though.



In yr8 science when doing the hydrogen pop test in science class, we distracted the teacher with a fire and broke into the store room, to get a huge flask, more hydrochloric acid and zinc?

The explosion/pop was heard several classrooms away.

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I know how you feel now, about all the ignorance, ''it's RF plain and simple, get a radio''

Pah.

Got another video coming. More evidence. Doing what I can to back you in this.

[Inquorate]

Spontaneous energy recovery in a capacitor

YouTube - capacitor spontaneously filling with sec 15-3 turned off

Love and light

[Lidmotor]

"Wide band receiving converter"---a solar panel???

@ Doc
That explains it. My litttle solar panel is converting the wide band RF into electricity. Thanks for showing me the direction to take this idea. The panel that I'm using is a 1.8 watt 12v car battery maintainer that works great for this because it puts out juice even at low light levels. The energy around the SEC gets the panel all excited and out comes electricity. Shine the light from the leds on it and things get even better. This opens up lots of possibilities.

@ Inquorate
Your last few videos were great to show the energy around the SEC and refute the argument that the only thing happening is that we are gathering ambient RF. I think you are right. We are asking mother nature (in a nice way) to give something up ---and she is saying yes.
What we do with the gift is up to us-----
Something useful or we can blow up pop bottles with hydrogen.

Lidmotor

[DrStiffler]

YouTube - capacitor spontaneously filling with sec 15-3 turned off

Love and light

@Inquorate

I tried to post a comment on YT but they were down for maint.

Anyway what I wanted to say was a SIDAC will work just fine and cheaper and easier to use than a SCR. The SIDAC's are two leads and you select what trigger voltage you want. This is what I used in the video's a year or two ago when this all first started with the antenna coils. In one of those vids I was drawing about 1.5amp for each bulb pulse. Of course it was all buried and so we moved forward.

Great job! You will have a way to show gain that even Barnum and Bailey will not be able to refute. Good job indeed.

[Tecstatic]

Getting no feedback is frustrating...

Hi to the active forum posters.

Great videos and findings.
Sometimes a short close up on a diagram would be nice though.

Doc, you have certainly met my expectations

I have managed to download and view the latest videos, despite being heavily attacked on the net for 3 days.

I have looked back at my little "SEC cube", it is almost a SEC 18 (thanks for the detailed photos). I will make a new more compact layout, so I have the filter on the same PCB side as the SEC. So in a few days I will make some new ones for experimenting.

Doc, I have been thinking of your latest videos, I do not have the arrangement, but I will try to get something useful to see if I can be successful to match the source to the load.

I have seen many of the effects reported, 1 wire and wireless etc.
You are a very trustworthy source of information, those of your claims I have tried, works as you say

Sorry for being too silent.

Eric

[Shamus]

@Inquorate: Great job with those vids--what's mass got to do with it indeed!

@Doc: Just some preliminary results with the SEC18, and probably not all that useful at this point as I just blew up the shunt on my 1A analog meter and I have no idea what the current draw is.

At any rate, I dug up all my loose LEDs that I had laying around (including around 14 I got today from the Shack) and made a string of 25 of them on a single AV plug. All different kinds and sizes. The short story is that I was able to tune the exciter (@18V) to get them all lit at full brightness. So then I figured, why not throw in the other AV plug with the ten LEDs on it and was able to get all 35 at full brightness and I'm pretty sure I haven't reached the limit of this thing yet.

It seems that I'm in the neighborhood of CEC > 1; I'm pretty sure the input current is somewhere between a hamster fart and a sneeze. I just wish I could measure it to prove it. I tried using my DMM (it's battery powered) but that was a no go.

I'm hoping to be able to make some more rigorous measurements in the near future so I can present something more substantial here. But everything I've seen so far is looking very good so I'm optimistic at this point.

@all: I made an interesting discovery (well, interesting to me) when soldering up the string of 25 LEDs: You can't rely on the internal configuration of the LED to determine polarity. When viewed from the side, you can see a larger piece of conductor, then a small gap, then a smaller piece of conductor.

I had thought that the side with the larger part was always the cathode but this was proven not to be the case when I powered the string up with an AV plug on the exciter. Some of the LEDs that I thought were hooked up with correct polarity (based upon the internal structure of the LED) would not light up until I reversed them. I should note that the relative lead lengths on the LEDs were absolutely consistent with the correct polarity (yes, it's true, I'm a dope ). I bring this up because a while back someone was having trouble getting all his LEDs to light up and this might be the cause.

I found it interesting that ALL the LEDs in correct polarity would light up even though there was one or two stuck in there with reversed polarity. I would have expected the entire string to be dead.

Now I know that the reverse current on an LED is very small and with high enough voltage you can still get reasonable power from one, but is this what is happening here? The forward current is much greater than the reverse current and it would seem that you would still need more current to light them up than you'd get from what leaks through a reversed LED. It seems quite evident there's more going on here than meets the eye.

[Inquorate]

Progress on measurement of output

YouTube - determining the output of the sec

What are the equations for measuring the energy in a capacitor again?

Will have to wait for power input measurements, broke another analogue meter..

Hope the video helps others determine output, which increases with your hand on the negative (i was doing that in the video). Trying to recover every last bit of power, ie from second tower would be a great idea too. I didn't do that.

Love and light