Magnetic monopole arises when magnets repell each other.

[broli]

Why not go back to my message posted above and consider Pat. #4874346. This patent states that a number of geometries can be used. For instance, take a number of cone shaped coils and arrange them in a sphere, with the commonly connected points in the center.

Sorry I missed that one. I just went through it and now I see where JNaudin had his designs from. He indeed proposes valuable things. But I don't get the levitation thing. If it's levitating why is there a string attached to it? Also with all his experience why didn't he make a design that makes permanent monopoles?

Broli. A moejoe cell creates a magnetic field where one pole is in the center and other pole is on the surface of the sphere. It is just several concentric spheres locates one inside another. The inner sphere is connected to a negative terminal of the power supply and the outer sphere is connected to the positive terminal of the power supply. Resulting magnetic field has its poles on the inner sphere and outer sphere surface.

I had to research this device but I don't exactly get how the radial magnetic field is achieved in this cell. If I'm not wrong, electric charge moves from the outer to inner sphere or vice versa? Wouldn't the magnetic fields nearly cancel each other. This is the first result I get when I drew a few current paths with their fields.

[Jetijs]

Broli. A moejoe cell creates a magnetic field where one pole is in the center and other pole is on the surface of the sphere. It is just several concentric spheres locates one inside another. The inner sphere is connected to a negative terminal of the power supply and the outer sphere is connected to the positive terminal of the power supply. Resulting magnetic field has its poles on the inner sphere and outer sphere surface.

[Electrotek]

I have already started thinking of methods of making a 3d spherical monopole. Like shown above. The ideas I have currently range from many coils surrounding the sphere to gyroscope kind of device that has spinning radially magnetized ring magnets.

Why not go back to my message posted above and consider Pat. #4874346. This patent states that a number of geometries can be used. For instance, take a number of cone shaped coils and arrange them in a sphere, with the commonly connected points in the center.

[barbosi]

You could have helped by posting the relevant information of this man because I sure can't go look up his entire biography just to get what you're referring to.

One can show you the door, but you have to enter that door yourself.

It's been said: "Nikola Tesla and Walter Russell did meet and discuss their respective cosmologies. Tesla recognised the wisdom and power of Russells' teaching and urged Russell to lock up his knowledge in a safe for 1,000 years until man was ready for it."

Is going to be a long journey, and every journey starts with a first step.

[broli]

However, now I shall comment. The fact you say: this plane it won't make a monopole particle/body. It is a body because you have a drawing of it. And is not monopole as long you can draw it in two colours.
And this idea is not new, has been around for about 50 years or more. The author is Walter Russell. Now you may continue speculating your idea or read what that man had to say.

Regards.

It will indeed not make an actual particle but that's not the point. A magnetic dipole doesn't exists either (Gauss law) but yet we can determine the resulting field lines of something that has no physical shape or form. And these field lines actually have effect on other magnets. It doesn't have to "exist" to be used. As long as you have the formed field it's enough.

I also do not know Walter Russell. You could have helped by posting the relevant information of this man because I sure can't go look up his entire biography just to get what you're referring to.

But as a conclusion I give you the full right to not believe any of this. It's all talk and no experimental proofs. Can someone with two magnets and magnetic viewing film post a picture of the resulting shapes on the film?

I have already started thinking of methods of making a 3d spherical monopole. Like shown above. The ideas I have currently range from many coils surrounding the sphere to gyroscope kind of device that has spinning radially magnetized ring magnets.

[barbosi]

Removed on second thoughts. Oyster's sweat should not be sniffed.

Regards.

[Electrotek]

Have a look at Boyd Bushman's "Apparatus and method for amplifying a magnetic beam" US Patent 5929732

Peace
PJ

Thanks for the patent.

[broli]

Oh man, my question was simple.
Why did you draw the magnetic lines radial? Clue: why do you say are linear (not curved or curled or circular)? Can you prove it? Is there any manual, or better yet an experiment, that proves your theory?
I think this is an assumption taken because the visualisation with iron fillings did not reveal anything spectacular.

Please do not take it as a personal attack, but I believe you are wrong with regard to the shape of the lines of field. You may have a great idea to share, but excuse me, I cannot start comprehending a concept which starts with an unproven theory. In fact I can suggest simple experiments (all credits go to a fellow researcher) which disprove your assumption and might give you a hint about how is really the top view of the field lines of a bar magnet.

But now is your move....

Now is my move? I'm helping you understand why do you make it look like we're in a dance competition. This is not a theory this is as straightforward as 1+1 being 2. The top view is shown ONLY showing the field lines at the center between the two magnets repelling. It has to be at the center between them where the field lines cancel out in the y component.

[sigzidfit]

Have a look at Boyd Bushman's "Apparatus and method for amplifying a magnetic beam" US Patent 5929732

Peace
PJ

[barbosi]

.... In case of permanent magnets these are either the electron that's spinning around the nuclei or the electrons own spin around its own axis. In that illustration the electrons are all force to spin radially and thus make a radially outwards magnetic field....

Oh man, my question was simple.
Why did you draw the magnetic lines radial? Clue: why do you say are linear (not curved or curled or circular)? Can you prove it? Is there any manual, or better yet an experiment, that proves your theory?
I think this is an assumption taken because the visualisation with iron fillings did not reveal anything spectacular.

Please do not take it as a personal attack, but I believe you are wrong with regard to the shape of the lines of field. You may have a great idea to share, but excuse me, I cannot start comprehending a concept which starts with an unproven theory. In fact I can suggest simple experiments (all credits go to a fellow researcher) which disprove your assumption and might give you a hint about how is really the top view of the field lines of a bar magnet.

But now is your move....

[broli]

broli,
Could you explain please in the first figure the "side view" why the field lines are as you presented?

Well what causes magnetic field. Spinning charge right? In case of permanent magnets these are either the electron that's spinning around the nuclei or the electrons own spin around its own axis. In that illustration the electrons are all force to spin radially and thus make a radially outwards magnetic field. If you don't understand I'll try to explain it in a different way.

Edit: I noticed I explained the wrong drawing. Do you know how one can draw electrical fields? Basically you pick a random point in space and add up all the forces/influence of charge on that point. This should help:

Yeah I've always been a magnet man myself, its always facinated me. once I demanded of myself to quit calling the action they preform "magic" and actually understand it, the more I am amazed.

From what I understand about your theory, is you think that the Bloch wall is, or contains monopoles?

and about your perfect magnet... if you understand that the magnetic field is a result of an order of the electrons spin, either forced by a current or induced by solid state. So I think you would need a toroid shaped electron pattern, where instead of going in only one way to make normal bar magnets, like you said, would need a more circular pattern... However I dont think a circle shape could hold a monopole field. I think if you could magnetize a sphere with a toroidial shaped electron pattern, then the S or N would be completely internalized and the other would show on the outside.

How you would do that is beyond me. possibly take a sphere and divide it in a few parts, magnetize those parts with the section of the pattern you need, and then once assembled... but also it might not want to hold together well.

A better way to look at magnetic fields is to take periodic walks around your neighborhood, picking up old tv's that people throw away because of the digital change, and just bluescreen it.. Thats what George Green did.

When I did that, I had large 10 lb ceramic magnet bars, and I was able to open up holes in the screens output in the same area that the "monopoles" are created. The TV returns to normal after I leave it alone.

Anyway, Cheers!

Bloch walls are kind of chaotic but yes in a way you probably could find some sort of monopole fields in those regions.

And yes the spherical field is not an easy one. One could assemble one with many pieces but that wouldn't be elegant now would it . Keep that brain working. The answer is always simple.

Edit:I just noticed the arrows in the above spherical drawing should be reversed. Magnets go from north to south not the other way around .

[CosmicFarmer]

MagnetMan

Yeah I've always been a magnet man myself, its always facinated me. once I demanded of myself to quit calling the action they preform "magic" and actually understand it, the more I am amazed.

From what I understand about your theory, is you think that the Bloch wall is, or contains monopoles?

and about your perfect magnet... if you understand that the magnetic field is a result of an order of the electrons spin, either forced by a current or induced by solid state. So I think you would need a toroid shaped electron pattern, where instead of going in only one way to make normal bar magnets, like you said, would need a more circular pattern... However I dont think a circle shape could hold a monopole field. I think if you could magnetize a sphere with a toroidial shaped electron pattern, then the S or N would be completely internalized and the other would show on the outside.

How you would do that is beyond me. possibly take a sphere and divide it in a few parts, magnetize those parts with the section of the pattern you need, and then once assembled... but also it might not want to hold together well.

A better way to look at magnetic fields is to take periodic walks around your neighborhood, picking up old tv's that people throw away because of the digital change, and just bluescreen it.. Thats what George Green did.

When I did that, I had large 10 lb ceramic magnet bars, and I was able to open up holes in the screens output in the same area that the "monopoles" are created. The TV returns to normal after I leave it alone.

Anyway, Cheers!

[barbosi]

broli,
Could you explain please in the first figure the "side view" why the field lines are as you presented?

[broli]

broli,

I'll dare to guess that people do not understand magnetism and so there's not much participation.

I sometimes forget that it took me many hours to come to particular realizations so it's selfish of me to except people to go AHA the moment they see these concepts. Thanks for reminding me of that.

Broli,
Dont take it personnel. Due the the complex nature of magnetic forces its a focused field.
There is a lot being done in industry to harness some of the energy that lies in this element...
Please continue to share your findings with us. As far as the threads.Many times the subjects get old and these threads need to time out and get renued to avoid lengthy historical renderings.

Thanks I'll always gladly share any idea I have.

@Broli
They are something else, They are quite interesting.
But its hard to apply anywhere, Mostly you use Magnets only to repel or generate something, there is less use for it, but quite interesting.
Its something like 'good to know'.
And i think, most are at her own Projects, but when there is a Way to apply it, some will surly do.
Personally i would prefer to have something to make the Magnetfield visible,
and i would use a lot Time at it.
But about a tripole i think, it wont work, the other Pole will allways appear something else, if not, then at last in an other Dimension.
But mostly anywhere around, like electrostatic, where the Walls are the other Load or the Environment in a large Circle.

I would rather have people people understand the concepts and try their own ideas of it than have them blindly follow with little understanding and quit quickly after the first unsuccessful experiment.

Btw there are other ways of creating planar monopoles than the one I've shown. When you create a radially magnetized magnet it's essentially a monopole if you look at it from a 2d world, like this...



This shows something very interesting. As you can see even though it's a monopole it exists of a dipole. Here's a method to make such radially magnetized fields...

How to simply make a radially magnetized magnet (a 2d magnetic monopole).

Now this is just a puck. It's only nicely radial in one plane. But how can one make a true 3D spherical shape that is radially magnetized, meaning having a core that is the north and an outer shell that is the south or vice versa. This I have not figured out yet.

Here's how a 3d monopole would look like if cut in half...

[Electrotek]

Joit: Here's where you can get the magnet viewing sheets, for $3:

Magnetic Viewing Paper - view magnetic patterns of magnets | Edmund Scientific