Big Joule Theif

[slayer007]

The amp draw with the cfl off was 140Ma to 600Ma.
With the cfl on it was 200Ma to a little over 1 amp.

It ran the brightest at 600Ma to 800Ma.

[slayer007]

The ferrite toroids I bought off ebay.
The wire is 23ga. there both the same.
I did want to use a biger wire for the pickup but didn't have enought.

I think it could use more windings on the pickup coil allso.

[DavidE]

Slayer007

Now... you are cookin with GAS!

[Lidmotor]

2" Ferrite ring JT

Here's another joule thief in a 2" ferrite core.
The joule thief has 20 turns and the extra pickup coil it has 160 turns,its 3 layers thick.

When its ran off a 12v battery it can light a CFL off the extram pickup coil.

Here is a video of it.

YouTube - Joule Thief Big Pickup Coil

Wow good one!!
I think that this is a "Must do" experiment replication as soon as I find a ferrite ring big enough. Any tips on where I can find one? I tried a speaker ring magnet but had very poor results. What is the amp draw on this when the CFL is on? Paul's rendition of this JT/CFL was drawing 800Ma at 10volts but he wasn't using secondary pickup winding. This 8:1 winding ratio seems to work just fine. Are the primary and secondary wires the same thickness?
Thanks,

Lidmotor

[slayer007]

Here's another joule thief in a 2" ferrite core.
The joule thief has 20 turns and the extra pickup coil it has 160 turns,its 3 layers thick.

When its ran off a 12v battery it can light a CFL off the extram pickup coil.

Here is a video of it.

YouTube - Joule Thief Big Pickup Coil

[Joit]

Sounds like a chaotic system :-) the pattern will never repeat. That's cool.

Not so bad.
Led goes stable flickering at a certain Point,
just at start it does like 1-5-1-4-1-6 Pulses.
Seems more like, it has to settle down.
But otherwise its a cool Way to make pulsed DC from continues DC.

[Inquorate]

Chaos

Sounds like a chaotic system :-) the pattern will never repeat. That's cool.

[Joit]

Now when i put another Pot between C and Coil,
the Led start slowly flickering and speed up with unconstantly pulses. Oo
I think, Aliens are sending me a Message Aha-ha-ha.

[Joit]

Lmao, Now i did connect a 220V/24V Transformer to my 1,3V Batt,
and at the right Connection, i guess thick Wires on Pot side, Led starts flickering like a Discolight!
I can control the flicker Speed with the Pot ha ha.
And light seems brighter too as with the Toroid.

I usual can get all Circuits to work, just need to switch Wires all time, till it works
My galvanic Batt with a Sharpender and Graphitpencil boostet from 1,3 to 8 V in good case.
But amp drops from 4mA to 1mA at a toroid.
With the Transformer still 2,5mA

Edit Pot is ~10k

[Inquorate]

Magnetic fields and electric current = time

@ StevenC - some VERY interesting reading, if you're short on time, just read the last one for what I mean about magnetic field being time. Otherwise, all the rest is also eye-opening, just keep in mind, I think they (Depalma and tewari) are wrong about the aether being incompressable; I think it is superfluid, and yes, electrons are vortices like what forms when you pull the plug in a bath :-)

FROM THE ELECTRON TO A PERPETUAL SYSTEM OF MOTION

Genesis of Free Power Generation

Limitation of the Law of Energy Conservation
This is the one about time.
On the Nature of Electrical Induction

Also, this is a pretty good page of links, Aether Theories - Collation of Scientific Theories of the Aether

Specifically the one dealing with superfluid aether.

[Hoppy]

1. Ain't we 'milking' the trigger strand in 0V mode instead of "milking" the power strand on the "COM" mode?
8:-)

2. Could we milk them both in a way?

3. The FWBR type is the further variant (no contact to source)

It crossed my thoughts this morning:
A. As all energy vortices ("electrons") have spin (*vortices* just happen to be spins of stuff ;-) ), all electrons inherently have spin.
B. brought to existance by a uniform sharp gradient of a collapcing mag-filed, the electrons (vortices) should all receive an uniform, ordered spin with all axles parallel to the mag-fields axis?
C. As the event passes along the conductors, it both transfers and aligns axes of other vortices nearby
D. in the end we have a L.A.B. filled (re-plenished) with electrons of like spin.

Could this be the source of the unusual properties of the charge?
Where would further expanding of this idea lead us to?

Give schematic a try. I make no claims but its interesting. I forgot to add on the schematic that it may need starting by tapping a magnet on one end of the coil and leaving it there.

Hoppy

Edit: Please note that I have drawn the capacitor the wrong way round. Positive should face D1.

[StevanC]

the bogled mind needs "time for recovery"

That is the same mind boggling idea I've been having ever since I found out about fluffy voltage charge :-)

Thankyou for encapsulating the concept in such a clear, easy to understand manner!

Now, if we can get people to understand that magnetic field produced by these moving electrons (and magnets etc) is a product of the time it takes to manifest the movement :-)

Like bodkins has been saying all along, BEMF is compressed time.

kthx

I've been "thought-lifting" my brain a while now (bench mind-pressing), so it's kinda "fit" :-P

I'm afraid i lost You with time-pressing ???

IMHO, the time compression Mr. Bedini talks about is in a different context ?
We don't alter the amount *used*, we merely *require* less amount - that is the time compression as I understand it:
We do more in less time = we do more easy with same energy = we achieve more for less?

(morning gone - no more light bulbs lit :-( )

[Inquorate]

That is the same mind boggling idea I've been having ever since I found out about fluffy voltage charge :-)

Thankyou for encapsulating the concept in such a clear, easy to understand manner!

Now, if we can get people to understand that magnetic field produced by these moving electrons (and magnets etc) is a product of the time it takes to manifest the movement :-)

Like bodkins has been saying all along, BEMF is compressed time.

[StevanC]

Mind bogging idea?

Yes, these are the two configurations.

Hoppy

1. Ain't we 'milking' the trigger strand in 0V mode instead of "milking" the power strand on the "COM" mode?
8:-)

2. Could we milk them both in a way?

3. The FWBR type is the further variant (no contact to source)

It crossed my thoughts this morning:
A. As all energy vortices ("electrons") have spin (*vortices* just happen to be spins of stuff ;-) ), all electrons inherently have spin.
B. brought to existance by a uniform sharp gradient of a collapcing mag-filed, the electrons (vortices) should all receive an uniform, ordered spin with all axles parallel to the mag-fields axis?
C. As the event passes along the conductors, it both transfers and aligns axes of other vortices nearby
D. in the end we have a L.A.B. filled (re-plenished) with electrons of like spin.

Could this be the source of the unusual properties of the charge?
Where would further expanding of this idea lead us to?

[Hoppy]

Hoppy,
does this picture, i hope i will upload, describe what we are discussing about?

feel free to edit it to match?

Yes, these are the two configurations.

Hoppy