Gray Tube Replication

[Electrotek]

Just thought Id drop a line or two. Ive been pretty busy trying to machine a half-way accurate tube like Gray had. Here it is so far. Cant wait to build the rest of the circuit to see what happens!

Electrotek, did you say the battery actually charges a couple of hours after you pulsed it?

That's what I've been observing. The charge goes up after the battery sets for awhile. Your coil looks like Gray's. How did you wind it, so that both wires come over the top?

Ghst: Are you saying that plasma worm is unsupported, as in no central wire? What is it sparking to?

[lamare]

Just thought Id drop a line or two. Ive been pretty busy trying to machine a half-way accurate tube like Gray had. Here it is so far. Cant wait to build the rest of the circuit to see what happens!

Just looked at your pic. It seems like Gray's version has some kind of shiny tape around the PVC tube. Could it be that he used something like thin aluminum-tape around the tube to create an additional grid??

[lamare]

That's what I've been observing. The charge goes up after the battery sets for awhile.

That's interesting. What happens when you connect a neon-bulb to the plastic of your battery, for example during charging?

I saw some video from Bedini showing that a neon-bulb lights up when touching the plastic of a battery with one lead, while holding the other lead in your hands IIRC.

If that is what happens with your battery too, then you can be sure what you're feeding it is "radiant" or "cold" electricity.


I suspect what happens is that the plastic of the battery gets charged with static electricity, probably consisting of positrons, because plastic does not conduct electrons. If that is the case, it might very well be that this static charge is slowly but steadily influencing the chemicals inside the battery, which apparantly charges the battery in a different way then charged with "normal" electricity.

[Ghst]

That's what I've been observing. The charge goes up after the battery sets for awhile. Your coil looks like Gray's. How did you wind it, so that both wires come over the top?

Ghst: Are you saying that plasma worm is unsupported, as in no central wire? What is it sparking to?

That is correct. There is no wire there (where the worm is). The plasma worm looks as tho it is like it was squeezed out of one of those tiny holes in that it appears to be rounded segments or round balls that have been compressed together. The plasma 's main burst is also pouring onto the floor and goes around to the back of the board from the right. Again, it appears to be like a energy fluid or something. This is certainly not just a average flash!

[Electrotek]

Monopole Field

@lamare:I can't find my neons at the moment. I know they're around here somewhere because I see them from time to time. When I find them, I'll try your test, which may help characterize the charging effect.

@Ghst: VERY interesting!

@Everyone: I have a number of fan motors I've salvaged from MW ovens, and they have some prefect little coils for repulsion experiments. I've discovered that I can carefully separate the sections of laminations by pounding in the right spots with a screw driver, leaving a core in the coils. So I took a couple of these coils and laid them on a flat surface, wired in series and connected to my plasma spark circuit. When I fired it, the side-by-side coils went flying apart quite a ways. I did it again, this time reversing the wires on one of the coils and they still repelled, even if only a couple of inches. Then I rewired them back to maximum repulsion and placed them in a T arrangement, with the end of one coil facing the middle of the other coil's side. This duplicated the first effect, when they were side-by-side. Flipping the side coil end for end - the long part of the T - once again produced the minimal repulsion. This works with or without a battery in the circuit.

The reason I tried this is because John Bedini's diagram shows the North Pole magnetism on the side of the coil, which I seem to have verified. The coils repel regardless of their polarity or orientation. Also, the spec sheet says that the magnetic field is oriented 360 degrees. It seems that this kind of energy produces a Monopole Magnetic field.

[Raui]

That is correct. There is no wire there (where the worm is). The plasma worm looks as tho it is like it was squeezed out of one of those tiny holes in that it appears to be rounded segments or round balls that have been compressed together. The plasma 's main burst is also pouring onto the floor and goes around to the back of the board from the right. Again, it appears to be like a energy fluid or something. This is certainly not just a average flash!

The description you gave me sounds a lot like Tesla's description of ball lightning. Could you post a circuit/video of this circuit?

Raui

[Ghst]

@ Raui: Here is a schematic sorta.
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The proto board was drawn about actual size. Basically you want the HV to get to the coil connection that will charge the caps first. The low voltage is not connected to the board but is positioned closer to the caps charging coil wire connection to the board. The low voltage is placed like a spark gap and has to jump to the board. My video of this got accidentally deleted by my son. But I had sent a copy of the video to Electrotek. The video is 104 MB and probably to large for him upload in its entirety.(he has dial-up connection) But he may be able to clip a small section showing a burst and post it. The 8 turn coil on the low voltage may or may not have to be in the circuit. I was goofing around with a piece of coaxial cable and just put it in there. But it was in there when I got the effect, so I thought that I would show it.

[Electrotek]

Ghst: No problem, I'll have my neighbor download the email and send it back to you. Good thing you sent it to me. He'll be up and around in a couple of hours.

[Electrotek]

Ghst: I got your video. This is amazing! I tried to upload a couple of outtakes but I'm getting a "network error" as usual this time of day. I'll try again later.

[Ghst]

Thats cool Electrotek! I'm playing around with another board right now that is about 3" X 6" I'm learning how to control the digital sparking that jutters wildly about. so that I can position the sparkgap to be more centralized to the larger board. This is very weird trying to get the thing to preform like the CSET. and control the spark path. But I have made some progress. I can now discharge the board by placing the spark gap wire (LV) to a place predetermined by me!

[Electrotek]

Ghst: Glad to hear you're making progress. That's more than I can say. I've tried 5 times today to upload a clip for you, with nothing but frustration to show for it. You may have to find a way to post yourself. I'm going to stop dealing with videos or I'm going to resign from this forum.

[Ghst]

White Plasma Worm

Electrotek Thanks for the time you spent trying to upload the clips. I think I have got it now.
YouTube - Plasma Worm

[Electrotek]

Electrotek Thanks for the time you spent trying to upload the clips. I think I have got it now.
YouTube - Plasma Worm

That's OK. It just turns out that I finally got ImageShack to download the toolbar which allows me to upload videos. I posted two clips from your video.

http://img531.imageshack.us/img531/3635/plasmaworm5636814xl6.flv

http://img531.imageshack.us/img531/5928/extraspark6026450yi3.flv

Both clips show a Plasma Worm, but in the second vid it's where the alligator clip clips to a different wire.

The thing I find important is the white flash across the proto board. This is a high frequency effect.

[Electrotek]

AC Motor Test

Just to keep things going, I tested the plasma spark circuit with a small fan motor, from a MW. Surprisingly, the motor did turn a little. Actually, a little more than DC treadmill motor. So this energy will work with an AC motor, at least some of them. I think the primary factor will be the frequency of repetition.

[martin]

That's what I've been observing. The charge goes up after the battery sets for awhile. Your coil looks like Gray's. How did you wind it, so that both wires come over the top?

Ghst: Are you saying that plasma worm is unsupported, as in no central wire? What is it sparking to?

Sorry havnt posted for a while, got a daughter graduating here in a bit so things are a little hectic.

The windings are wound spirally around the tube. It's an optical illusion I guess with the diameter of the tube vs wire size.

Ghst, cool worm effect! Ive never seen anything like that!