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  • Dr. Beshires1: It depends on your setup. I can do it with 7.5kV, using this same circuit, if I stretch the arc gap, then give the cap a little time to charge while the diode's spark is operating.

    Otherwise, I've gotten a spark around 1" with 45kV and no cap. So 2" would probably take close to 100kV, with a non rectified rf type spark.

    But a capacitive discharge spark is completely different. Without an initial inductive electron trail, HV from a cap will only jump a very short distance, creating its own ion path. So a cap would have to have around 800,000 Volts to jump 2" on it's own.
    Last edited by Electrotek; 01-22-2009, 01:20 AM.

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    • Thanks this gives me a idea of how much kV my two ignition coils (non-rectified) spark is putting out.

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      • Resonating tank circuit

        I have so far been able to make my tube fire at approximately 4KV with a 75KV 22nf capacitor. I'm using a Variac to drive a 75KV x-ray tube transformer. When I try to add more voltage, it merely makes the sparks happen with higher frequency, which makes sense. It evidently only takes 4KV to jump the gap I have set. I have a coil and another cap at the proper place in the circuit, but the coil will not even deflect the needle of a compass which tells me I'm getting squat through the grid.



        On the Gray's Zero point energy page, the following statement is made following the graphic of his CSET;

        "Capacitor 38 and inductive load 36 constitutes a tank circuit that resonates at 6Khz."

        This would seem to indicate that each coil, stator and capacitor should have very strict values of inductance, capacitance and impedance. Does anyone have any idea of what these values should be? The values I have come up with are entirely unreasonable and likely indicate that I'm using flawed math. Any help will be appreciated.

        I'm trying to learn to use LtSpice, but that is also a steep learning curve .


        Thanks,
        Carl

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          • Spearmaster: You're right. I checked the resonance, and with 12 uF the inductance would be way too low. So it's back to the concept of the stator and rotor coils, in series and opposition, equating to a bifilar inductance. The two inductances, in this arrangement, would essentially cancel, giving the low value for the resonance. With the right kind of energy. The best thing to do is to have an adjustable interrupter rate and an adjustable spark gap length. Then set the rate for the optimal repulsion between two coils, experimentally, and fine tune the frequency with the spark gap. But you may need a bigger cap to get any usable field from the coil.

            Gauss: Yes, it's a mistake to jump to another project after only initial results. But I do find Meyer's system interesting. Some of his components might be applicable to the Water Sparkplug, as far as getting the water to ignite, without the subsequent implosion. I haven't had time to follow the VIC thread. Are there any claims of OU? I need a motor which will run my mechanical systems, without having to have an on board Fusor or other power source.

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            • CSET As Inverter

              Dr. Beshires1: I'm starting to "smell the water". So here's the deal, Champ. Ed Gray called the CSET his "Inverter". An inverter is something which "converts" a battery's voltage into a higher voltage, with a frequency. Since the CSET is wired in parallel with the battery, it provides the "switching" circuit which places the rectified pulses onto the capacitor. This circuit has such a high efficiency that one capacitor can be charged up in less time than all the previous caps, each with their own charging circuit and transformer, with this one capacitor doing the same work as all the others.



              I'm going to try this, using a lower voltage MOT, since the voltage builds up so quickly and I don't want to blow my expensive cap.
              Last edited by Electrotek; 01-21-2009, 11:41 PM.

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              • You Go Dude!!! Good Luck!!!! OH, seven smileys bowing GREAT effect... Sure gets more attention than one or two..

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                  • Thanks for this information, Gauss. An internal combustion engine which burns water, then condenses and recycles the exhaust vapor would be an ideal closed system to power a mechanical type Space Drive, which is my real line of work. Especially when it produces additional energy, besides. But some of the things in Meyer's system are currently beyond my time and resourses. Of course, this doesn't include the laser. High powered UV lasers are so simple anyone can build one, with minimal parts. Water will dissotiate directly at a wavelength of 2135 Angstroms, which is well within the capabilities of a Nitrogen laser, if anyone has the time and interest to apply it. And my own patent (4260933) clearly shows a photolytic application. Still, I think the simplest approach of all is to use Keely's frequencies modulated onto a Water Sparkplug circuit. It's a matter of historical record that Keely exploded a drop of water - launching a cannon ball - by playing three notes on his violin. "C" "A" "F", with just the right cadence and increasing volume. (This makes an amazing sound.) Bearden put it the right way when he said that there are a hundred ways to get Free Energy. It's up to each individual to choose their own approach, based upon their talents and interests. Good luck with your VIC research. I know you'll get it right. My own choise lies with taking energy from the Zero Point. And I'm not talking about temperature, since this energy exists at any temperature. My primary need is for a small, light weight, powerful electric motor, with quickly adjustable amounts of high torque output. So that's what I'm persuing.

                    Warm Regards,

                    Jerry

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                      • @ Electrotek

                        Now I know why the purple flash in orange neon effect is of interest to you :-) I'd love to see it replicated.
                        Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                        • Purple Spark

                          Originally posted by Inquorate View Post
                          Now I know why the purple flash in orange neon effect is of interest to you :-) I'd love to see it replicated.
                          I can replicate your effect quite easily with my Vacuum Tube Amplifier (VTA), or as Bearden calls it, Vacuum Triode Amplifier. What you're doing with your transistor is inverting the input, so that the output is a Phase Conjugate Replica. Congratulations!

                          And you're right, this is a rather important effect. This is the key to producing longitudinal energy, electronically. BTW, what transistor are you using? (Chuckle, Chuckle.)
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                          • Of course!

                            I phase conjugated the who out my what now?

                            Transistor is a 2n3055 from here:

                            Jaycar Electronics
                            Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                            • Schematic link

                              I have a feeling that phase conjugate is important, I've heard bearden say it a few times too.

                              Here's schematic Electrotek just made reference to, in case anyone knows what phase conjugate means :-)

                              purple+flasher.jpg (image)

                              I got about half way thru this;

                              An Intuitive Explanation of Phase Conjugation
                              Last edited by Inquorate; 01-22-2009, 12:40 PM. Reason: Found wave conjugate description
                              Atoms move for free. It's all about resonance and phase. Make the circuit open and build a generator.

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                              • Sweet VTA

                                Inquorate: This is a very important schematic.

                                This simple little circuit is how you can power Floyd Sweet's VTA. With 9mW input, he was getting 45W output. That's an increase of 5,000. The only other thing you need is a time varying signal. Do this by switching it off and on, faster and faster.

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