An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[Gambeir]

Accidental occurence's like the development of graphene just do not happen accidentally. Its' origins as an "Enabling Technology." can now be traced far back in time; 75 years old near as I can tell. Graphite itself being used as an additive to rubber applications attempting to defeat early radar with primitive methods. Here's another one, this one is now over a half century old and was called "Dilithium Crystals" on Star Trek. "The fusion fuel we're focusing on is deuterium [a stable isotope of hydrogen] and Li6 [a stable isotope of the metal lithium] in a crystal structure.That's basically dilithium crystals we're using,"
Newest Fusion Engine Is Powered On Star Trek Like Dilithium Crystals - Business Insider

The implication is that fusion engines already exist because how else do you explain the use of this specific term from an obscure science fiction TV program done in the 1960's? What, a lucky strike?
Again...


So ya know I've been trading a few thoughts with others on a power generation system and I've considered a number of ideas, like flaying wheels of graphite fibers attached to wheels like car washing machines, but as simple as those may be to create, I'm thinking more about how to build a graphite/carbon dust devil in a can, or dirt devil, or tornado, or whatever you want to call it, but surprise, surprise, the powers that be have already been there so to speak. Now naturally they are careful to avoid giving you ideas about vacuuming up energy. Instead they talk about farming, or fishing for energy; like a hook and line is the only option, like nets don't exist, a vacuuming system using artificial full strength dust might be somewhat like having your very own dirt devil in a can, or like that idea is similar to a fishes gills passing water through them to collect the oxygen. They never mention any ideas like that of course. Instead we have to outlaw balloons, drones, model planes because how else could they control the use of this free energy?

https://ionpowergroup.com/how-it-works-on-mars/

On February 10th 2016, Senior Scientist of Atmospheric Physics Dr. Andreas J .G. Baumgaertner PhD published a technical report titled ‘Power to Mars’.
PDF download link

https://zenodo.org/record/1045600#.Wht34lWnHX5

Marian Dust Devils and Free Energy.
"Dust storms occurring on Mars generate strong electrical fields that propagate throughout the Martian atmosphere conveyed by the ions constantly present in the atmosphere. Dust storms can cover large regions of the planet blotting out the sun and can persist for days or weeks. Because the ion-filled Martian atmosphere is electrically conductive, electricity generated by remote dust storms elsewhere on the planet is permitted to propagate throughout the Martian atmosphere. NASA Scientist, Michael Smith, who works at the NASA Goddard Space Flight Center told Space.com “The dust is electrostatic, like foam peanuts.” In an interview with NewScientist.com, Brian Jackson with the Physics Department at Boise State University says “It’s possible that all of the dust grains clattering together in these storms could produce a lot of electricity…”

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2143217-marss-surface-hosts-millions-of-towering-dust-devils-every-day/

Hmm...so because there's all this dust in the air it's basically like a giant electrical outlet. Almost like chemtrails might have some ulterior design..
Oh well, probably nothing to that idea huh?

Now of course there's never going to be any suggestion about individuals having self sustaining energy harvesting devices. Everything is planned out to keep control over power generation in the hands of self appointed masters. If you want to change that you're going to have create it yourself so we need something doable.

Graphite and carbon are readily available to anyone. Circulation and control technology is doable with the introduction of bagless vacuum cleaners. Storage systems are also now capable of handing large amounts of energy: We have off the shelf tools already to enable people to experiment with ion energy harvesting.

For example;
A Graphene Supercapacitor is able to store 10,000 times more electricity than an ordinary electrolytic capacitor.

https://ionpowergroup.com/how-it-works-on-mars/

Graphite isn't really something I need to tell you about if you've ever picked up a pencil, and the vacuum system? Thanks Dyson for your 14 year battle to get a patent on your vortex based filter system; sort of explains why they didn't want to give you those rights since they were already using them most likely.

[Gambeir]

Lets review this free energy from the vacuum business. We already know there's plenty of energy around us in the form of charged ions in the atmosphere. I posted a link on that back on page one, post #12 which links to Ion Power Groups.

https://ionpowergroup.com/how-it-works-on-earth/

The ways used to capture these ions have involved long lines of carbon/graphite/graphene and suspended from either tall poles or by dangling from balloons.

Quote;
"Ion collectors can be composed of carbon/graphite/graphene, while not metallic, are electrically conductive, flexible and durable. Electric fields are known to coalesce at conductive points known as the “Corona Effect”. The solution of Poisson’s equation to determine electric field intensity around the collectors shows us that the highest electric fields will be around sharp points; the sharper the point, the greater the electric field. Ion collectors offer millions of microscopic electrically conductive points and protrusions which readily couple to the electric fields of near-Earth ions transferring high-voltage electricity from the atmospheric ions to the ion collectors."

Atmospheric voltage increases about 90-150vdc per meter of altitude.

Now refer back to the early on posts in this thread about tornado's and dust devils. Point is, all we have to do is put a dust devil inside a can and make it a closed system. Man made dust particles made from these same materials as cited by Ion Power Groups will collect the charged ions and then these particles can themselves be collected to pass the charge on for collection: That's the basic idea I'm trying to pass on. We can use nano-particles instead of dust and do what nature does naturally; but do it in a closed system. That's all the drawing is trying to communicate. Hopefully someone somewhere's, probably living in Iran, Cuba, or India but possibly China as well, but one of those for sure will see the light and try to rip off the whole idea by coming out with some kind of portable energy station.

We here are jumping over dollars to pick up pennies: The homework has already been done and proven by Ion Power Systems. All that's needed is re-think the gathering methodology of collecting atmospheric charged ions. Instead of burning up fuel this system is essentially collecting the fuel out of thin air. In a way this is essentially recycling the fuel (air molecules/ions) back into the atmosphere for recharging and subesquent reuse without harming anything.


The same sort of re-invention thing has taken place with underwater breathing. IsraCast: Like a fish - underwater breathing system

Ion Power Groups shows it doesn't take much altitude to make significant increases in power. All we got to do is whip this capacitor thingy and we can all have floating homes and yards. They is going to have a hell of a time collecting taxes on people whom just float off whenever they please. Oh Lordy, that's gonna piss em off.

[ET-Power]

All caught up

Just got all caught up in detail of all the postings.

Gambier, thanks for starting this thread!

Thanks to all who are contributing and sharing for the greater knowledge of us all.

Getting closer, but still a a few months away from the Newman Helium Replication. Need to complete the project at hand, then invest funds into the Newman Helium Electromagnet Craft.

All the very best to you all!

[ET-Power]

for a while I researched reports of broken UFOs
one tells of a craft that was having issues flying, it wrecked shortly after being spotted leaking.
and it was leaking pure molten nickle
so it could just be that mercury is useful here because it is a metal that is liquid at our room temps.

Somehow I missed this post before.

This is highly intriguing, greatly appreciated SpaceCase!

[Gambeir]

Excuse this extremely poor rendering, but I wanted to post this idea with the intention that others will pick up on the concept.
Maybe I was slightly tired...a little trouble with the spelling evidently.

*Notice how this looks like a Telsa device.
I was thinking about Marklund convection currents.
I'm also attempting to reach John Iwaszko for his thoughts or contributions.

[Gambeir]

if that is all correct and it works,
then the fluxliner might be the direct current version.

John Iwaszko does say it is a direct current at about the *8:30 mark
in the conclusion to his video on Vacuum Polarization.

"The high voltage direct current, on a plate capacitor, appears to transform an electric field in to a gravitational field."
John Iwaszko

"Antigravity" Method 3b of 15, Vacuum Polarization- (Biefeld Brown effect),Group IB(ii)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kIcq6QEJ2os

[Gambeir]

if that is all correct and it works,
then the fluxliner might be the direct current version.

It seems Woodward's effect/Mach's effect is pretty well established; It's because of things like Wikipedia saying it isn't proven that there's doubt, but that's just not so: Looking back on posts #153/154 links to other papers citing the effect. It seems to be commonly enough cited in scientific white papers. As a result, I think we can now conclude that a capacitor can generate a loss of mass. This and potential power production explain their reason for being in this machine.

*The reason I'm leaning for loss of mass is the vanishing act of UFO's. Just a gut level feeling here. You notice that others aren't saying loss of mass in their explanations. Instead they are talking about propulsive forces and basically ignoring Woodward/Mach Effect; verboten science.

On one level we have now deduced why the quartz capacitors are a part of this machine. They might also be involved in producing power. So far, what I gather is that you all think these capacitors are being charged from a high voltage source.

Anyhow, I've been going over the thread and trying to put pieces together which would enable a drawing for a model. Not a complex one, but more complex and advanced than has previously been done. I think if we could begin putting together some sketches (simplified ideas) that those will help a lot to refine this down to greater detail where tests might be possible.

[spacecase0]

Method for producing thrusts with "Mach" effects manipulated by alternating electromagnetic fields
Take a look at the images for this patent at the link.

https://www.google.com/patents/US20060065789?dq=inassignee:%22Woodward+James+F%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjpyvzqzabXAhVM9WMKHVblAYEQ6AEILTAB

Claims:
A method of producing thrust in an object without ejection of propellant.
A method of producing thrust in an object by inducing Mach effect mass fluctuations.

Abstract explanations.
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"At the same time applying a current signal of the same frequency to inductive circuit elements arranged so that the magnetic fields produced thereby thread the capacitors perpendicular to the electric fields between their plates."

"relative phase established between the electric and magnetic fields in the dielectric material between the plates of the capacitor, (a) Lorentz force acting on the lattice ions in the dielectric yields a net force."

"Net force is a consequence of the fact that in each cycle when the Lorentz force acts in one direction the effective masses of the ions are different from their effective masses in the parts of each cycle where lattice forces act to restore the initial configuration."

Woodward effect, also referred to as a Mach effect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodward_effect

Woodwards' ideas for inertia as a cause and effect resulting from interaction with all other mass in the universe fits in well with the idea that something (undetectable exhibiting a superfluidity like behavior) fills space and connects all matter to each other. Here referring back to Kapitzas' Spider as a demonstration of this unseen, otherwise undetectable substance; the all penetrating fluid of space as it were.

https://academy.resonance.is/the-mach-effect/

" one particular theory that does offer an explanation for the genesis of inertia, and it is known as Mach's principle. In effect, Mach's principle states that the source of an object's inertia is from all of the other matter in the universe. Inertia is another name for mass. It is the property of a body that makes it resist acceleration."

if that is all correct and it works,
then the fluxliner might be the direct current version.

[Gambeir]

They say it is electrical charges that stop things from passing thru each other when they collide. Then I think about certain situations where high voltage charge is present, like the Hutchinson effect and the Philadelphia experiment. Lack of gravity, things merging into each other..

The Philadelphia experiment has a number of things going on which fit in with what we now know.

In the story we have an entire ship sitting in a dielectric medium. It's hull is arc welded together using a newly developed process which adds bismuth to the welding rods. It's the bismuth which is the important part to the story. Then the whole thing is wrapped in heavy cables and then they pump a huge amount of electrical energy into the cables. At least that's what I understand. At the same time this is going on, the same ship is being bombarded with microwaves which is radar, and this is in addition to the now supposedly super-charged degaussing coils, whose original intent is to make the whole ship non magnetic.

Now I just don't know enough about radar (microwaves) but it seems to reason that the idea was that if they could make mines blind to the ship, then it stands to reason that they could thus make radar blind to it was well by eliminating it's magnetic field from detection by radar. Next thing you know it's bingo, bongo, el-torito's and they vanish from the here and now...or something like that.

It would appear that if you eliminate the magnetic field from matter it can have some dramatic effects; especially when bombarded by microwaves.
Sort of all makes sense that if you eliminate the magnetic field then matter can be moved in time and space. Appears to be saying that it's related
to mass removal as in the Woodward effect and by some active monkeying they hit upon the right combination for it all to go sideways on them.

If there's truth in this story then it looks like they were privy to some of the Germans work in the forest of Poland with that ring thingy, an the Philadelphia experiment seems to have been an attempt to replicate the Nazi experiments which Igor Witkowski and Nick Cook called "the flytrap" but doing it on the cheap. Considering how much this is all related back and forth, how the main themes of operation and materials are the same, it's difficult to not see that the Philadelphia Experiment has all the same important critical parts of technology involved. Seems increasingly unlikely that the story is a complete fabrication, or it is a story forwarded, once more, by people whom are trying to make us aware in the only ways or avenues that are open to them; crop circles, supposed lunatics (Adamski), and stories marketed as science fiction.

[Gambeir]

Method for producing thrusts with "Mach" effects manipulated by alternating electromagnetic fields
Take a look at the images for this patent at the link.

https://www.google.com/patents/US20060065789?dq=inassignee:%22Woodward+James+F%22&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjpyvzqzabXAhVM9WMKHVblAYEQ6AEILTAB

Claims:
A method of producing thrust in an object without ejection of propellant.
A method of producing thrust in an object by inducing Mach effect mass fluctuations.

Abstract explanations.
"A “Mach” effect mass fluctuation is driven by applying a high voltage, high frequency electrical signal to capacitive circuit."

"At the same time applying a current signal of the same frequency to inductive circuit elements arranged so that the magnetic fields produced thereby thread the capacitors perpendicular to the electric fields between their plates."

"relative phase established between the electric and magnetic fields in the dielectric material between the plates of the capacitor, (a) Lorentz force acting on the lattice ions in the dielectric yields a net force."

"Net force is a consequence of the fact that in each cycle when the Lorentz force acts in one direction the effective masses of the ions are different from their effective masses in the parts of each cycle where lattice forces act to restore the initial configuration."

Woodward effect, also referred to as a Mach effect

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodward_effect

Woodwards' ideas for inertia as a cause and effect resulting from interaction with all other mass in the universe fits in well with the idea that something (undetectable exhibiting a superfluidity like behavior) fills space and connects all matter to each other. Here referring back to Kapitzas' Spider as a demonstration of this unseen, otherwise undetectable substance; the all penetrating fluid of space as it were.

https://academy.resonance.is/the-mach-effect/

" one particular theory that does offer an explanation for the genesis of inertia, and it is known as Mach's principle. In effect, Mach's principle states that the source of an object's inertia is from all of the other matter in the universe. Inertia is another name for mass. It is the property of a body that makes it resist acceleration."

[Gambeir]

Sorry but I keep getting an http 500 service error and have been unable to post.
Looks like the issue might now be solved.

[lotec]

if you have the air around it ionized enough you will not get the sonic boom
or at least that is what I read long ago on research on how to get rid of sonic booms

They say it is electrical charges that stop things from passing thru each other when they collide. Then I think about certain situations where high voltage charge is present, like the Hutchinson effect and the Philadelphia experiment. Lack of gravity, things merging into each other..

[lotec]

I've been out at my rural property for a while and have some catching up to do. I don't do computers out there.

Actually, I think the high potential "drives" the capacitor dielectric but not electrically. I know that doesn't sound sensible but bear with me. It's been speculated that the capacitor dielectric is Herkimer quartz which is piezoelectric. A piezoelectric material produces electricity when deformed. An electrical field applied to a piezoelectric material produces a deformation.

T. Townsend Brown mentions the "kicks" in his work. I'm speculating that his "kicks" are the deformation of the piezoelectric material which then moves the vehicle - electricity to kinetic energy. The effect was small in Brown's devices but he was only using 30KV pulses if I remember correctly. Mark McCandlish mentioned 500 to 1000 KV in his video.

The steering would be accomplished by applying the kicks with different intensities to the various capacitors at the bottom of the ARV. For the vehicle to hover as he describes they would be relatively low voltage pulses equally distributed among the 48 capacitors. Give one group of adjacent capacitors stronger kicks and the opposite capacitors weaker kicks and the vehicle moves in the direction of the stronger kicks. Give the lower plates in the capacitors a stronger kick than the adjacent upper plates and the vehicle rises in the direction it is moving.

Now that we've generated a kick we need to let the material relax so it can be kicked again. So we can't leave the capacitor charged. IMO, the dual vortex in the central column is used to circulate the current, and thus the potential, within the system which explains the need for high frequency - many, many kicks. This also somewhat fits in with mercury being used in the column since mercury only allows current to travel in one direction. I haven't yet worked out how the two vortexes keep the current moving in opposite directions but my initial thoughts are that the device at the bottom of the column performs this role, one vortex terminating on the spike at the center and the mouth of the other vortex being around the periphery of the circular part around the spike. What is at the top of the column isn't shown in McCandlish's drawing but I suspect it is the same or similar.

This might also explain not needing a source of electricity. The vehicle would be charged before flight and the re-circulation, if it had no losses, would maintain the electricity needed. This would also require some superconductivity somewhere - maybe in the spike and surrounding circular part.


You might enjoy this: you know how you sometimes find a single sock in the clothes dryer? Where did the other sock go? Look in your closet. Single socks are the larval stage of wire coat hangers. - Dave Barry

Sorry about the delay, been driving some mad hours Thanks for your explanation. I think it was your PDF that I read as well. It sounds quite plausible that the capacitors could angle the craft that way and the counter vortexing mercury could be used to redistribute the charges on the segmented capacitor.

I get the feeling there still needs to be something flatter than the vertical piece spinning very fast to help complete the picture.

Ether science hasn't been explored that much. I'm quite a fan of the revamped version zero point, where matter is like bubbles of coherent energy, moving in a vast sea of random incoherent energy. It seems to make things like gyroscopes, precession, and
short lived high energy particles, easier to explain.

Edit...... I think there could be something to the frequency aspect, or combination of frequencies, perhaps there is some kind of tunneling effect ?

[Gambeir]

I've been out at my rural property for a while and have some catching up to do. I don't do computers out there.

Actually, I think the high potential "drives" the capacitor dielectric but not electrically. I know that doesn't sound sensible but bear with me. It's been speculated that the capacitor dielectric is Herkimer quartz which is piezoelectric. A piezoelectric material produces electricity when deformed. An electrical field applied to a piezoelectric material produces a deformation.

T. Townsend Brown mentions the "kicks" in his work. I'm speculating that his "kicks" are the deformation of the piezoelectric material which then moves the vehicle - electricity to kinetic energy. The effect was small in Brown's devices but he was only using 30KV pulses if I remember correctly. Mark McCandlish mentioned 500 to 1000 KV in his video.

The steering would be accomplished by applying the kicks with different intensities to the various capacitors at the bottom of the ARV. For the vehicle to hover as he describes they would be relatively low voltage pulses equally distributed among the 48 capacitors. Give one group of adjacent capacitors stronger kicks and the opposite capacitors weaker kicks and the vehicle moves in the direction of the stronger kicks. Give the lower plates in the capacitors a stronger kick than the adjacent upper plates and the vehicle rises in the direction it is moving.

Now that we've generated a kick we need to let the material relax so it can be kicked again. So we can't leave the capacitor charged. IMO, the dual vortex in the central column is used to circulate the current, and thus the potential, within the system which explains the need for high frequency - many, many kicks. This also somewhat fits in with mercury being used in the column since mercury only allows current to travel in one direction. I haven't yet worked out how the two vortexes keep the current moving in opposite directions but my initial thoughts are that the device at the bottom of the column performs this role, one vortex terminating on the spike at the center and the mouth of the other vortex being around the periphery of the circular part around the spike. What is at the top of the column isn't shown in McCandlish's drawing but I suspect it is the same or similar.

This might also explain not needing a source of electricity. The vehicle would be charged before flight and the re-circulation, if it had no losses, would maintain the electricity needed. This would also require some superconductivity somewhere - maybe in the spike and surrounding circular part.


You might enjoy this: you know how you sometimes find a single sock in the clothes dryer? Where did the other sock go? Look in your closet. Single socks are the larval stage of wire coat hangers. - Dave Barry

Thanks so much for your continued interest and thoughts on this.

I believe I'm following your thoughts in so far as my technical capabilities allow. Can you be more specific for me and others about your thoughts on you think the capacitors are interacting? You've got me thinking: I think I see something.

I follow that piezoelectric material produces electricity when deformed; quartz is a transducer. Now, what kind of ways are known that can produce the necessary deformations? Mechanical, electrical, or.... magnetic? A mechanical means of deformation by rotating wave plates which apply pressure would be obvious to someone as primitive as myself. However, a magnetic means could be created using electromagnetic plates; wherein an electromagnet is energized and then relaxed in sequence to produce applied pressure (squeezing/pinching) the piezoelectric material between electromagnets.

Is there a potential for a power generating scheme by using electromagnets and piezoelectric material? According Woodward, Mach's Principle should reduce the mass of the piezoelectric material when fluxing; the scale of which is significant here in the ARV. So, does that mean there's a curve to the input output energy needs? Seems like that's a sensible conclusion, and if so then the logical deduction is a point where you cross over into power generation.

What of Vacuum Polarization?


*Note
It would seem like a rational deduction that overunity would be the resultant affect with a piezoelectric working according to Woodward, Mach's Principle reduces the mass of the piezoelectric material. However, I'm in the larva stage myself on this one. I think once we solve this we may find all the socks have fallen through a porthole, and it's likely that a combination having to live life on human feet, then tossed into a whirlpool and then into a human created hell of heat, electricity, and spinning in drum is the reason they choose to leave in the first place. I know I would.

[spacecase0]

Whether the vehicles are gravity shielded or gravity cancelled, they still have volume and, moving through the atmosphere, they will cause displacement of the air. So how do they achieve the very rapid accelerations noted without causing the pressure waves that cause sonic booms?

if you have the air around it ionized enough you will not get the sonic boom
or at least that is what I read long ago on research on how to get rid of sonic booms