An Inquiry in to the Alien Reproduction Vehicle

[spacecase0]

Those ideas are born straight from Telsa's dynamic theory of gravity.
Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity ? Aether Force

first, thank you for the entire post, but I had never seen that one part before, and it sure seems to back the MAGVID device with all of the claims as being a real thing.
despite a no result on my last test of it, seems like everything points to it being a good idea to try again, just on a larger scale.

[Gambeir]

Using a comparative analysis I think we can see commonalities beginning with the words of Telsa and stretching forward to Ken Wheeler; where counterspace is the opposite pole of a magnetic field. Meaning we are living in a monopole of a total magnetic field, and which would then define Universe as we know it right now, and with the other side (counterspace) being the other magnetic pole of Universe. (not to be confused with the hyperspace of John Qunicy St. Clair; which is only the factual movement through a vortex pinch point between these monopoles which is otherwise referred to as a wormhole).

Counterspace is the other monopole, and the wormhole that that leads from our space to counterspace is in reality a bloch wall. In other words, a magnetic field is a manifestation of hole, or natural bloch wall, between our own magnetic monopolar space and that of another monopolar space: Both spaces effectively being magnetic monopoles. The wormhole being a Bloch Wall between the two. A wormhole is then factually a Bloch Wall and which is bleeding the polar field from the other side and thus creating a complete magnetic field in our own space. If this is correct than counterspace is factually a more accurate description of this field and not hyperspace which would be the resultant of moving through and with in the bloch wall, and presumably then returning back inside our own monopole field. Movement in the constriction of the vortex pinch point of the bloch wall is hyperspace specifically.


This concept is reflected in the Schappeller's device right on up to John Quincy St. Clair and his numerous patents. This St. Clair patent for a magnetic monopole spacecraft is revealing a great deal, and most interesting to me is how these ideas are, in fact, described in the 1951 South African Incident: See what you think further on. Now the person who seems to have really had a firm grasp on all this is Henry Stevens. It's Henry Stevens who wrote "Hitlers Flying Saucers," and really I cannot say enough positive things about what Stevens has to say, as well as his sources and his reasoning. https://archive.org/details/HenrySte...sFlyingSaucers

Stevens;
" Physics was hijacked early in the 20th Century by alleged results of the Michelson-Morley experiment. The Michelson-Morley experiment assumed "Aether" was matter."

Stevens again;
"Instead of aether theory, we have all been led to focus upon Einstein and his Theories of Relativity. Two or three generations of scientists have wasted themselves on "trying to prove Einstein right". This misguided thinking has resulted in stagnation. One need go no further than the many "free energy" devices which have arisen to the level of notice in spite of accepted scientific theory to see that this statement is true.

Needless to say, German scientists of the Nazi period labored under no such illusions. They never abandoned Aether physics.This was the fundamental reason why field propulsion UFOs were first developed in Germany. After the Second World War two different sciences developed called "Physics". One was the relativism taught in schools. The second more esoteric type was utilized only secretly, by the secret government, for deep blackprojects."

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Stevens.pdf

*Here's proof of that statement by the way. Three persons right on this forum have built this device and every one of those claim it works. I'm gonna give it whirl myself.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/16565-steele-braden-generator.html

Much of Stevens work is based on a text written in 1955 by a British Engineer; Cyril Were Davson.
"The physics of the primary state of matter; and application through the primary technique." [A presentation of the work of Karl Schappeller. With a portrait.].

https://www.worldcat.org/title/physics-of-the-primary-state-of-matter-and-application-through-the-primary-technique-a-presentation-of-the-work-of-karl-schappeller-with-a-portrait/oclc/752761762

https://www.amazon.co.uk/s/ref=dp_byline_sr_book_1?ie=UTF8&text=Cyril+Were+Davson&search-alias=books-uk&field-author=Cyril+Were+Davson&sort=relevancerank

A small discussion one time on Energetic Forums.

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/3781-physics-primary-state-matter.html

From Davson in The Physics Of The Primary State Of Matter; page 199:
"As has already been explained, the new Technique will not concern itself with the air as a supporting medium, but directly with the aether."
(* Note) This is straight out of the mouth of Telsa and it refers to what today are tensor theory. Those ideas are born straight from Telsa's dynamic theory of gravity.
Tesla's Dynamic Theory of Gravity ? Aether Force

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From Davson, page 177 as cited by Henry Stevens.
"Employing the Schappeller mechanism is only half the total explanation. In a field propulsion saucer there are possible two types of "drive" needed. The first is the "Auftrieb" or levitation."



Magnetic monopole spacecraft ~Read this carefully until you understand the gist of it~ OK? Like for example; it's not just one worm hole but a whole field of many, many, many, little worm holes that are "threaded" together like beads threaded to a necklace; a woven together fabric of tiny worm holes as it were. Now look at the spiral like drawing in the patent: Many tiny worm holes threaded together in to a spiral. Where have we seen this idea before?

Also, look at what St. Clair says about what a wormhole is~ "actually a magnetic monopole"

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060168937A1/en

BRIEF SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION
This invention is a spacecraft propulsion system that generates a field of wormholes which are threaded with a magnetic field. Acting as two attracting magnets, the spacecraft's north magnetic field is attracted to the constantly regenerating south magnetic monopoles of the wormholes which provides lift on the hull.

(003)
each wormhole is actually a magnetic monopole, and therefore the entire field of monopoles constitutes a large magnet with one pole in this dimension and the other pole in the hyperspace dimension.

(004)
The concept of the wormhole involves a new type of scientific thinking involving the creation of a gateway between our spacetime and that of a hyperspace co-dimension.


Now compare this information and drawings of Schappeller, St. Clair, and the ARV/Abductee's descriiptions to the description for propulsion given to a British Engineer in South Africa in 1951 by a Ufonaut begging for water

"he asked if H M had any questions about the craft?
H M asked where the engines were and he replied; "We don't have any engines." Pointing at the levers, he said "We nullify gravity; that is how we rise."

Asked how this was done, he answered that they used "a very heavy fluid" which circulated in a tube at near light velocity, creating a magnet. H M said such a speed was impossible. "No, it is simple," he replied, "when the fluid is leaving the tube, it is already entering the other end, thus its relative speed is infinite." H M asked where they came from; he pointed at the sky and said "From there;"

(*Note) I swear this sounds just like something Werner would say to some poor stunned slob. Also notice the location. Apartheid South Africa 1951 might as well have been Nazi Germany. God knows what could have been going on in the Jungles of Africa in that epoch of time. Take for example abductions and missing kids and people. Ask someone if they would go with what they thought was an alien because it's a common enough question asked in certain circles, and sure your mom always said never go with a stranger but..... Hey Kid, ya wanna see a flying saucer? Ya know....I just have to wonder...seriously I do.

This is a very long but highly interesting and informative series being done by Dark Journalist. I listened to this entire program last night. This program, as well as others, includes the links between the UFO files and the JFK assassination. Aliens? Personally I don't think so. I think it's something else which drove them to do this, to murder the president, and I don't thing it has a damn thing to do with Aliens. What's more likely, that aliens are abducting kids and people for whatever purposes, or that Nazi Doctors/Scientists find bliss with the pedophiles of the corporate operated political system? Just maybe Alien is Code for something else?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDqP2Xop1-M

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDqP2Xop1-M[/VIDEO]

[Allen Burgess]

Eddie Page Area 51 Stealth craft.

Picture of TR-3B from 1991:

[spacecase0]

These links were provided to me recently with the following message: (I've not had the chance to read them myself entirely as yet)...

"Apparently some real disclosure is occurring about both the Roswell “UFO” incident and anti-gravity technology. The two links below were sent to us by Japanese military intelligence and they say they are genuine (although this is not an area in which this writer has much expertise). One appears to be a patent application for an anti-gravity craft, while the other claims to be a top-secret document stating that alien bodies and alien spacecraft really were recovered by the U.S. government".

"I have heard about the first one, but this is the first time I have seen the document, top secret file. - DOWNLOAD THESE BEFORE THEY DISAPPEAR".

http://d3adcc0j1hezoq.cloudfront.net...ecret-MITD.pdf

And...

https://patentimages.storage.googlea...30209637A1.pdf

fun reads, thank you for posting them
so, it would seem that the central disk in the ARV might be a capacitor

edit:
that guy with the patent seems like it is all theoretical work,
I get that form reading his other pattens

https://patents.justia.com/inventor/john-quincy-st-clair

[Gambeir]

These links were provided to me recently with the following message: (I've not had the chance to read them myself entirely as yet)...

"Apparently some real disclosure is occurring about both the Roswell “UFO” incident and anti-gravity technology. The two links below were sent to us by Japanese military intelligence and they say they are genuine (although this is not an area in which this writer has much expertise). One appears to be a patent application for an anti-gravity craft, while the other claims to be a top-secret document stating that alien bodies and alien spacecraft really were recovered by the U.S. government".

"I have heard about the first one, but this is the first time I have seen the document, top secret file. - DOWNLOAD THESE BEFORE THEY DISAPPEAR".

http://d3adcc0j1hezoq.cloudfront.net...ecret-MITD.pdf

And...

https://patentimages.storage.googlea...30209637A1.pdf

Thanks Sputins. Now appears to look like a recycle of the Majestic 12 documents
The source for the download is through Nick Redfern who has this article on them.

https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2017/06/the-majestic-12-documents-are-back/

Want to pass along this insight as well.

Now take a look at this video by Crrow 777 distributed in 2014 of a supposed UFO Orb shooting at chemtrails. That's not what is actually happening. I'll explain with the help of my friend in the second video below. This is not the only video by any means showing the wireless transmission of power to supposed UFO's, but it is one from a widely acknowledged truthful source.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4byMQIk_iGQ[/VIDEO]


What I think you're actually seeing here is wireless power transmission, and the whole real purpose of chemtrails is to produce a conductive trail in the atmosphere which is used to re~supply power to suborbital machines which our own disinformation agents have been claiming to be alien space ships rather than what they really are. This is yet another vidincation that the McCandlish Illustration is very likely to be an accurate general print of the guts of a man made gravitational control vehicle. If so the evident design of the ARV indicates that it likely is following conventional Einstienian Physics, and which is using massive charges of stored energy to influence the surrounding space as described by tensor theories such as the one outlined by Harold Puthoff. https://www.researchgate.net/publica...ic_Engineering

It's unclear to me whether or not these chemtrails are accessing earth's natural ion field which is a highly charged energy field freely available but this seems probable. Thus the titanic energy stored in the earths' atmosphere is accessed and used as sort of refueling station, recharging the gigantic ARV capacitor banks, while the conductive aerial lines function as mass energy gathering particles taking Power from the sky and then also acting as lines for refueling via wireless power transmission.
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Sky Power

https://ionpowergroup.com/how-it-works-on-earth

Cell towers are almost certain to be part of a global power grid, functioning to making wireless connecting networks to these airborne power transmission lines, and so that as one line fades and becomes unviable, then the next newer one is switching on to connect and maintain a global energy grid: Make sense now?

You have to understand that the energy required to produce the effects of these ships is gigantic. This power generating and transmission system is positive proof that the theoreticals other think are still speculation are in fact actually real world technology. Evidently ideas and technology which have been around for a very long time. Certainly no one can say that such a system didn't exist from 1996 onwards, and which was when Chemtrails were first recorded to my knowledge.

Hopefully after a time this will gell in your mind and make sense and you will have a much greater idea as to the grandness and complexity of the lies we are being told. Hope this helps people to realize the truth behind the lies and their cell phone providers real interests.
[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChRKs4fJ02I[/VIDEO]

[Sputins]

http://d3adcc0j1hezoq.cloudfront.net...ecret-MITD.pdf

And...

https://patentimages.storage.googlea...30209637A1.pdf

[Gambeir]

In regards to the Schappeller Device remember the description includes use of a porcelain. The composition of porcelain are variable, but the clay mineral kaolinite is usually the primary raw material. Other raw materials can include feldspar, ball clay, glass, bone ash, steatite, quartz, petuntse and alabaster.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcelain

The 1960's were big on porcelain cookware like Corning Ware. It was later found that the Stealth Technology involved triangular patterns of break resistant Corning Ware in the leading edges of aircraft like the SR-71. Incidentally, glass is actually more resistant to ballistics than armor plate by 1&1/2 times, and one new type of bullet proofing involves packed ceramic sphere's between plates, so ceramic engineering has come a long ways involving armor plating, anti ballistics, stealth, and heat protection among other things.

Porcelain's primary ingredient of Kaolinite is partly composed of a single layered tetrahedral sheet of silica. Singe layered as in pyroltic carbon is single layered. Kaolinite is usually white in color because of oxidation, but it can be colored pink-orange-red by iron oxide, giving it a distinct reddish color.

"Kaolinite (/ˈkeɪəlɪnaɪt/)[4][5] is a clay mineral, part of the group of industrial minerals, with the chemical composition Al2Si2O5(OH)4. It is a layered silicate mineral, with one tetrahedral sheet of silica (SiO4) linked through oxygen atoms to one octahedral sheet of alumina (AlO6) octahedra.[6] Rocks that are rich in kaolinite are known as kaolin /ˈkeɪəlɪn/ or china clay.[7]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaolinite

See Encyclopedia Britannica for illustrations and additional descriptions.

https://www.britannica.com/science/clay-mineral#ref618474

Now another part that peaks my interest is the evidently insane like interest or study of Kaolinite, and ya know if you take the time to read through that Wikipedia link it starts off in 1947 and then just marches right on up through time.

Over~all, it appears to me that there are an amazing amount of likeness between the ARV's crew compartment, the magnetic wormhole, and the Schappeller device. Then there's this link or trail involving tetrahedrons.

[Gambeir]

Alien Scientist does a good job of putting some of this in terms of contemporary physics. Some parts of this story seem to match while others parts not so much.

The 1951 account from South Africa mentions a crew member who supposedly was burned in an accident. This is consistent with hazardous materials as the visitor isn't permitted to come near the injured crew member. Xerum 525, the supposed material used in the Nazi Bell, could be thorium and beryllium peroxides as suggested. The story does suggest that either a hazardous material or a radioactive material might also have been involved in the 1951 incident.

Metamaterials
AlienScientist.com
Propulsion
AlienScientist.com

[Gambeir]

These links may be of interest. Source~ https://cdn.preterhuman.net/
According to William Lyne the Nazi's never abandoned Ether Physics.

Karl Schappeller: Glowing Magnetism Prime Mover

http://free-energy-info.co.uk/Stevens.pdf

"Michelson, Dirac, de Broglie were not the only Nobel prize winners
in favor of a reexamination of the ether question. Others were
Stark, Arrhenius, A.H. Compton, Lenard, H. Yukawa, and Fredrick
Soddy, the British scientist who, during the convention of Nobel
laureates in Lindau, 1954, described the current dogmas in physics
as "an orgy of amateur physics" and "arrogant swindle" - with
particular emphasis on the theory of relativity."

https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/underground/BBSes/KEELYNET/ENERGY/zpe2pt3.asc

https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/science_and_technology/ofil_001.txt

https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/underground/BBSes/KEELYNET/GRAVITY/searle3.asc

Occult Ether Physics by William Lyne

https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/alien.ufo/Lyne%20-%20Occult%20ether%20physics.pdf

Occult Science Dictatorship by William Lyne

https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/alien.ufo/Lyne%20-%20Occult%20Science%20Dictatorship%20-%20A%20Book%20About%20Alternate%20Science,%20Free%20Energy,%20UFOs%20and%20Govern.pdf

Pentagon Aliens by William Lyne

https://cdn.preterhuman.net/texts/alien.ufo/Lyne%20-%20Pentagon%20Aliens%203rd%20Ed.pdf

[Gambeir]

Thanks for sharing Gambeir, and it's nice to see you back on this Energetic Forum discussion, very interesting. It seems like it is an entirely theoretical description of the magnetic wormhole and not an actual real-life working model.
It requires: "The wormhole is composed of (from left to right) an outer spherical ferromagnetic metasurface, a
spherical superconducting layer, and an inner spirally wound ferromagnetic sheet" (page 2 of that article). I'm not even sure how this could be built by someone tinkering in the garage.

P.S. on your post #391, on the man asking for water being Werner Von Braun, I thought he was only a rocket scientist, so I didn't know there was some evidence of his involvement with UFO's.

I'm no expert on Werner von Braun. It's just my hunch that if anyone would have been involved it would have been him.
The mannerisms described in the little story are suggestive of von Braun such as pointing upwards and saying "from up there."


down with murder inc

In the above photo Werner von Braun (third from right in the photo) in Nevada after the war.
Note the swastika on the sign. Also note the shape of the sign - is this a flying saucer?"



This is a list that breaks down who's who in the above photo of the 105 members of the Huntsville Moon Rocket Team.

https://medium.com/the-secret-history-of-america/the-whitest-man-who-ever-lived-part-3-d37110029ee2

Oscar Holderer dies, last of Wernher von Braun's original 'Operation Paperclip' moon rocket team. Posted May 6, 2015

https://www.al.com/news/huntsville/index.ssf/2015/05/oscar_holderer_last_of_wernher.html

Read this. Never say never. If they could do it with 1950 tech then you can do it. There's a solution: Count on it.
They may have been brilliant and we may all have brains the size of walnuts, but we also have these computers
and access to more information than any living being has ever had access to in all of human history.

Structure of the Schappeller Device

https://merlib.org/node/5076

[telemachus]

Thanks for sharing Gambeir, and it's nice to see you back on this Energetic Forum discussion, very interesting. It seems like it is an entirely theoretical description of the magnetic wormhole and not an actual real-life working model.
It requires: "The wormhole is composed of (from left to right) an outer spherical ferromagnetic metasurface, a
spherical superconducting layer, and an inner spirally wound ferromagnetic sheet" (page 2 of that article). I'm not even sure how this could be built by someone tinkering in the garage.

P.S. on your post #391, on the man asking for water being Werner Von Braun, I thought he was only a rocket scientist, so I didn't know there was some evidence of his involvement with UFO's.

[Gambeir]

I believe a momentous insight has just taken place in understanding the enabling technology behind true gravitational control technology. The following is connected to the previous post on the article in Nature about the creation of a magnetic worm hole. All shall be revealed as they say. Make sure you've gotten a gist of the magnetic wormhole invention reported in the Nature article and then read this 1951 account of Ufonauts begging for water in South Africa, and then the post from Thomas R. Morrison (physicist).


So first this account which I've reproduced. Source link.

https://alienexpanse.com/index.php?threads/rattling-the-bears-cage-once-again.1948/

Spring 1951
South Africa: Near Paarl Cape Town,

H M a British instrumentation engineer, had driven part way up a mountain called the Drakensteen, 7 miles from Paarl, and was just turning back when a man appeared, waving his arm to stop the car, and asked "Have you any water?" H M had none. "You see, we need water!" he said. H M offered to take him to a stream; the man asked if it was far away, and on hearing it was only 1/4 mile, got into the car. H M offered an oilcan as container for the water, "That will be all right," said the man. When they got back, the man pointed toward the mountain, into the area darkened by its shadow, saying, "There, please, there!" So H M drove into the shadows, and discovered, about 100 yards from the road, a lenticular object with squarish windows around its circumference, standing on 2 broad feet. It was 35-50 ft in diameter & about 13 ft high. Between the supports legs a flight of steps led up to a lighted opening. The man then invited the dumbfounded H M to enter the UFO, and with a "friendly gesture" persuaded him to do so. Standing in the doorway, he saw that a circular bench, or couch, ran all around the circumference; in the center was an array of about 8 3 ft hand levers projecting from a rectangular aperture in the floor, each ending in a sort of "fork" like that of an old hand brake, and beyond these was an object shaped something like an upright piano perhaps an "instrument panel," though no dials or instruments were visible. The white light came from no visible source. In the UFO were 4 more men, one of whom was lying on the couch; H M's companion explained that he "had got burnt in a slight accident." H M was not permitted to approach him. All the men were short, 5-5'3" tall, and wore belted beige laboratory gowns extending below the knees, with trousers and shoes visible below. They totally ignored the witness. H M's companion gave them water; on being asked if they needed a doctor, he said no. The he asked if H M had any questions about the craft. H M asked where the engines where; he replied "We don't have any engines." Pointing at the levers, he said "We nullify gravity; that is how we rise." Asked how this was done, he answered that they used "a very heavy fluid" which circulated in a tube at near light velocity, creating a magnet. H M said such a speed was impossible. "No, it is simple," he replied, "when the fluid is leaving the tube, it is already entering the other end, thus its relative speed is infinite." H M asked where they came from; he pointed at the sky and said "From there;" to more specific questions he would not reply. After 15-20 minutes of conversation, the man pointed toward the door and invited H M to leave, which he did. About 45 minutes had elapsed since the man had first accosted him. The next day he went back to the spot, and found some "very strange marks." H M's interlocutor seemed older than the others, perhaps over 40. The men's bodies and faces were normal (perhaps with somewhat pronounced foreheads), their hair short and chestnut colored, none showing any traces of beard growth. Their hands seemed delicate, like women's. The witness told this story to the investigator in 1977, while in Spain, doing work for a Spanish firm. He had never divulged it before.

Source: Albert Rosales Humanoid Catalogue, 1951, entry #20; citing Humcat 1951-12 and Juan Jose Benitez, “The UFOnaut’s Plea for Water” FSR Vol. 24 # 2, pp. 3-6.

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Posted by Thomas R. Morrison

https://alienexpanse.com/index.php?threads/heavy-science-time-travel.2321/page-3

"In 1963 Robert L. Forward published a brief but fascinating paper called "Guidelines to Antigravity" that took this concept one step further, and proved that antigravity is a real physical phenomenon. Which is probably why it was almost completely ignored by mainstream physics, when it should have been hailed as a momentous discovery. His idea was very simple and absolutely convincing, and it goes like this:

If we wind an electrical coil around a hollow toroidal form (a toroid is shaped like a donut), and send an increasing electrical current through that toroidal coil, we create a dipolar electrical field: on one side of the hole of the toroid we find a positive electric field, and on the other side we find a negative electric field. The same principle applies to gravitation - if we replace the electrical winding with a hollow pipe and run a very dense fluid through it at an increasing (or decreasing) rate, we create a positive gravitational pole on one side and a negative gravitational pole on the other side.

In other words, a body of matter placed near the negative gravitational pole will be repelled away from the toroid - we've created an antigravitaitonal field."


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I'm hoping you people are connecting this up. I wanted to bring this out ASAP as the potential implications are profound. The information implies that by feeding one magnetic worm hole into another a gravitational field can be created by means of cycling super~cooled super~fluids through an interconnected system of spiral tubes. I don't need to tell you this is a very good description of what abductee's have reported.

It further now appears that we have a situation where in 1951 a witness described this exact arrangement of a gravitational control scheme involving super~fluids circulating through tubes, passing through from one electromagnetic worm hole in to another and which was being operated by humans. This also probably explains what was reported about the ARV by the witness. That on approaching it was much cooler than the surrounding air.


Seriously I think this is a profound insight with profound implications.

After reading the story from South Africa I cannot help but think this construction worker was probably talking to this guy!
The whole manner in which the account is told, the invitation in to the machine itself, then asking if the guy had questions,
the pointing at the sky. I think that one specifically. Seriously I have this gut feeling that the guy was probably talking
with Wernher von Braun himself!

[Gambeir]

This article from 2015 in Nature (A scientific journal of renown) features an invention entitled a magnetic wormhole.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep12488

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep12488.pdf

While this image below depicts a magnet and a bloch wall.



I think that among other things, this may be a plausible explanation for the bloch wall in a magnet and which is not being recognized as such. I would strongly advise study of this device featured in the article in Nature: I have a sense that this invention is a mirror image of the crew compartment in the ARV. Certainly it raises some highly interesting possible experiments.
I might also add that after having looked at this curious creation for a while you may want to pay some attention to the fact that the outside is coated with a material which is magnetic while the inside is super~conductive, a material which ejects all magnetic fields, and further that this is a sphere which is functioning as a pair of lens. Understand?

I have to really ...really wonder about what takes place inside that sphere or if anyone really knows?

Quantum what you say?


Now I believe the ARV can be explained a number of ways, and this is one of those ways.

Years ago my very first postulate was that the ARV was driven upon an ionized cloud via eddy currents. For reasons I cannot understand there's a lot of resistance to the rather simple proposal. Especially from people whom should have enough expertise to gather the gist of this idea is rather straight forward.

The main problem I had was that I had a learning curve in front of me to cross and that I also couldn't figure out how to approach the problem of generating a large quantity of ionized air, even though I had a good understanding of how nature accomplishes this, but now I've gone sort of full circle and possibly I can now go about this creatively.

Now one of the reasons I posted the link to the magnetic worm hole has to do with creativity and imagination. These people whom created this machine were exceptionally creative and cooperative. Instead of finding everything that won't work they instead approached problems with the idea that either a solution or an alternative could either be found or created. This really is a very military like approach to seemingly impossible problems.

The ARV (as illustrated by McCandlish) is probably not operating on the idea I've suggested here, not entirely anyways, rather it is a more advanced machine, but the origins are likely to include this concept of electro~reactive propulsion.

This ionized cloud based propulsion concept is a workable concept and I believe the Rex Heflin Photo's almost prove that this concept was used in at least some types of UFO trainers, and very likely this propulsion system was in operation during WWII. As time passes more and more trace evidence suggests that there is a good deal of truth to the stories of the Nazi's and UFO's.

In the Heflin photo's you can see there is a disturbed ground beneath the vehicle, but in a photo processing I noticed that the disturbed ground isn't the same as if it would be by any known common propulsion systems like a say one produced by a Coanda effect or fan driven motors like many other inferior and failed concepts for VTOL machines.

There are four photo's of this machine. One is very little shown and that's the last one which is thick black smoke ring.
A very important and significant signature detail still commonly sighted across the planet. This tells us the design is a successful and long lived design.

http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/viewdoc/download?doi=10.1.1.552.6587&rep=rep1&type=pdf

This machine is space capable by means of simply replicating traditional orbital sling shot acceleration, and which once in space it could then use either gravitators or capacitors to propel and control it's flight. So there's nothing in this machine which isn't well within the technical abilities of the 1940's. The only problem is how to create an electron cloud that is sustained and doesn't fly off from the Magvid by centrifigual force.

The electron cloud has no reason to stay around the Magvid without a central magnetic core. A centrifugal force acts to eject the created ionized cloud, while a centripetal force is one which induces a body to follow a curved path. A concept evidently elusive to some supposed experts. Therefore to create a centripetal force a magnetic guide must also be incorporated in to the design.

There are two possible ways which appear in my mind. However one or both may have a distinctly different outcomes as a result of applying what at first seems like a rather straight forward solution.

In the Magvid concept the device is creating an electron cloud, which is an ionized air cloud that is a conductor for electric and magnetic energy. To retain this cloud we have to have a solution. One would be to surround the cloud with a magnetic field. Another would be to have a magnetic core powerful enough to retain most of the cloud.

Here I would urge you to pay close attention to the magnetic wormhole, and beyond I'd say that the way this specific wormhole was created is probably very close to the one which is very likely residing in the ARV, complete with a super~cooled core shell. Remember here what a superconductor does: It ejects all magnetic fields, repels them entirely, and also this crew compartment is a sphere which is double phase conjugation lens. A de~facto Magnetic Mirror in other words and which focuses all upon a single point inside of what appears to be an artificial bloch wall.

In other words, putting a virtual replica of this magnetic wormhole in the place of the ARV's crew compartment is going to create a compartment which is immune from the outside forces and which also contains all the magnetic force inside the sphere to a precise point of focus.

Meanwhile this magnetic wormhole is acting to funnel the magnetic field through the central column. This is all very much a precise description of what is thought to take place with a real magnet. What this may mean however is another matter.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etaYzqtEnDw[/VIDEO]

Now the idea behind this propulsion scheme is that the ion cloud is the propulsive field. So you have an ion cloud beneath the machine created by the Magvid, and then above that you have a coil which is pulsed with high voltage charges driving the ion cloud down upon the surrounding atmosphere or ground.

So it's thump, thump, thump which takes place as the energized coil is fired and then recharged. The driving force on the ion cloud are the eddy currents induced in the conductive cloud. This isn't any big mystery at all. This is simply a matter of creating enough motive force the same way any other reactive propulsion system operates. The concept of repulsive eddy currents upon a conductor are illustrated in the video below. Very simple and easy to understand concept. However, there's more to this and which becomes party to an enabling technology. Such as, there is a relative motive force to a moving magnetic field which is reactive to the specific composition of the conductor, and which varies according to the conductors composition. Copper for example may develop a repulsive force up to 35 times that of the magnetic field. This is a reactive motive force which is dependent upon the relative speed of flow of the magnetic field to the conductor. So this is more complex than it appears, but complex in the right way, as we can expect more propulsive force from moving fields than from static fields.

You might notice here that this thumping noise, or drumming like noise is associated with sighting of triangles and perhaps other UFO's.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WX1fkfJPWpY[/VIDEO]

Now working out an arrangement to produce a containment field for the Magvid's liberated electrons is really one of the more interesting problems to look at. It's something I'm doing right now myself, that is attempting to invent a series of creative schemes which might be employed.

Another point I've noticed is how closely many bits and pieces of this puzzle all seem to fit together with various bits and pieces which appear to be sort of mirrored in the patents of John St. Clair.

Permanent magnet propulsion system
US20060112848A1 - Permanent magnet propulsion system - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060112848A1/en

Abstract
This invention is a propulsion system for a train that uses permanent magnets mounted on a rotating iron cylindrical plate carrying a radial current in order to create a spacetime curvature distortion which pulls the locomotive along the track.

US20030209636A1 - Bobbin electromagnetic field propulsion vehicle - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030209636A1/en

St. Clair holds at least 11 patents. Patents are extremely expensive and must be maintianed. That is renewed +$$ and you're looking at about 20K US $ for a US Patent. According to at least one psychic this man is being held incommunicado: Something I would think is entirely possible.

US20030209635A1 - Electric dipole moment propulsion system - Google Patents * Notice anything unusual about this patent Dr. Who?

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030209635A1/en

US20030209637A1 - Rotating electrostatic propulsion system - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030209637A1/en

US20060168937A1 - Magnetic monopole spacecraft - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060168937A1/en

US20040200925A1 - Cavitating oil hyperspace energy generator - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040200925A1/en

US20060180473A1 - Water energy generator - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060180473A1/en

US20060071122A1 - Full body teleportation system - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060071122A1/en

US20030230675A1 - Rotor inductance propulsion system - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030230675A1/en

US20070285325A1 - Chi energy amplifier - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20070285325A1/en

US20060072226A1 - Remote viewing amplifier - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060072226A1/en

US20040102810A1 - Hyperspace torque generator - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040102810A1/en

US20060014125A1 - Walking through walls training system - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060014125A1/en

US20060038081A1 - Electric dipole spacecraft - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060038081A1/en

US20060144035A1 - Photon spacecraft - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060144035A1/en

US20060145019A1 - Triangular spacecraft - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20060145019A1/en

US20030197093A1 - Magnetic vortex wormhole generator - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20030197093A1/en

US20040164824A1 - Hyperspace energy generator - Google Patents

https://patents.google.com/patent/US20040164824A1/en

US20040164824A1 - Hyperspace energy generator - Google Patents
Abstract
This invention is a braided gold wire coaxial cable of micron size which generates hyperspace energy by coupling to the tetrahedral geometry of subspace, dimension and the Planck mass.

Several of St. Clair's patents are based around his so called magnetic wormhole generator.

[Gambeir]

Hi Gambeir, glad I could contribute something to this thread. I know what you mean about being accepted to this forum. It took almost two years from the time I signed up till I was finally accepted! I would like to thank you and Mathias for all the info and insights you have given us on this thread.

Ya know, there might be a good reason it takes a long time and maybe it's not all by accident.

Our next Stop: Hitlers Lunar Redoubt and Why Obama Bombed the Moon. ....snort....only kidding.

[nutzNvoltz]

Hi Gambeir, glad I could contribute something to this thread. I know what you mean about being accepted to this forum. It took almost two years from the time I signed up till I was finally accepted! I would like to thank you and Mathias for all the info and insights you have given us on this thread.