Keshe, Fraud, Fraud or super-plasma-coated Fraud?

[dragon]

Bob,

I'm focused on the semiconductor aspect of the layers as it follows some of my current work, I certainly wouldn't rule out the possibility of negative resistance playing a role here.

It would be interesting to get a read on the coils once assembled to get an idea of their actual spacial frequency. I have followed Dr. Stifflers work building most of what he's shown - some successful others not so much...

It was interesting you brought up the Cook coils in another post( another one I find curious ), there might be something that could be incorporated into those coils as the "insulation" layer. Unfortunately, there is a considerable amount of information left out of the patent... such as "circuit D" and a definition of the "special insulation".

[Bob Smith]

Before completely dismissing the BS created by Keshe think of the coatings not as "superconductors" but as semiconductors, particularly the use of copper oxide over a dielectric layer of the so called "nano coating" process.

The Keshe project caught my curiosity because I've worked in the area of chemical diodes using some of the same materials and coatings. You can learn more about these coatings by looking up copper oxide and it's uses.

You can look into the Stark and Zeeman effect as well as an Exciton....

The coils are based on a Russian reactor and I found it quite interesting that the diameter ( inside and outside ) of both coil sets are based on Phi - inner coil inside diameter is Phi, the outside diameter of the same coil is Phi x 2. The outer coils inner diameter is Phi^2 and outside diameter is Phi^3. The lengths would suggest a 3.5 to 7 Ghz range of operation with an interesting range of Phi harmonics.

I'm not trying to defend the keshe design in that it works or not, only pointing out some interesting things I've found based on some prior work I've done in this area and how it relates to what keshe appears to be doing. I plan to follow along even if there is no other reason except to refine my skills and knowledge of the doping process used to create a semiconducting diode coating. Maybe there is more there than I'm seeing at the moment and more will become of it - maybe not... either way I come out ahead in my research...

I quite agree with the coil coating acting as a semiconductor. I would only add that its configuration together with the coating, might enable both coated coils to act as a negative resistor.

I'm beginning to wonder if this coil-within-coil config is nothing more than a modified series-wound bifilar pancake coil. What is unique about it is the Phi proportioning between coils. Could it be that this proportioning further enables the coils to "tap into the wheelwork of nature" by allowing them to build on their own spatial resonant frequency (srf)?

See Doc Stiffler's videos below on srf (note: this is not same as self-resonant frequency [SRF]):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FOq7-WsL5c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9q_r5_jEP4&list=PL88933A424BCBF5EC

Bob

[RAMSET]

perspective

Slick
Having recently been involved with active gov,t suppression (as a vicitim)
I will definitely give people the benefit of the doubt .

However one case as opposed to thousands would seem a stretch to say the least.

just one mans opinion

Chet

[SlickDick]

Ben
This is a good place to look.
[your link] https://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1

I will try to contact a few, I urge anybody reading here to do the same and report back.

these folks span the globe [and so do we] lets try to get some real data and answers .

thanks

Chet

Hi Chet,

I think your post answers the question at hand. If the global span of folks had something to report, it would have been reported.

The video by Ali, posted by Yvonne Hanna https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hym2C-hBClo has neither reported success nor faillure since 6th November.

His comment today:

This is a better design https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwGgpoFYux0

Implies he did not succeed making the claims a reality.

I think it is natural for people who believe strongly, they question themselves rather then the claimes. Therefor chances are slim they will report faillure, but eventually move on and leave it open.

[RAMSET]

very good resource

Ben
This is a good place to look.
[your link] https://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1

I will try to contact a few, I urge anybody reading here to do the same and report back.

these folks span the globe [and so do we] lets try to get some real data and answers .

thanks

Chet

[Ben2503]

it works

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I like the saying:
"If you think training is expensive, try ignorance"

I am done.
Bey

[SlickDick]

Come on gentlemen... Let's try not to get our panties wet just yet.

Everyone will get their reward. The fanboys, the haters, the players and even the buyers.

Experience gained, lessons learned.

Life is good!

[Ernst]

Your goal is to trick, drive a wedge, send out condescending messages

you are a crippled person or should I say very bitter and high minded.

All of your messages are well thought out ways to twist the words
of any post you are using to make your point. You are a miracle
worker when it comes to contrivances in speech to manipulate
your stoolies.

You are the only one that thinks what you do with others words
is hidden. Your desire to use words to divide and conquer for a
highminded purpose are clear to most.

Now we all know what my problem is, what is yours?



Ernst.

[Ben2503]

old stuff

Your goal is to trick, drive a wedge, send out condescending messages

you are a crippled person or should I say very bitter and high minded.

All of your messages are well thought out ways to twist the words
of any post you are using to make your point. You are a miracle
worker when it comes to contrivances in speech to manipulate
your stoolies.

You are the only one that thinks what you do with others words
is hidden. Your desire to use words to divide and conquer for a
highminded purpose are clear to most.

Zero spends thousands upon thousands with no end in sight like
pouring cheat through a tin horn with no practical working OU.

All of his video's that validate any claim are left on a worthless
note of either not being cost effective or just plain silly.

What he is about is hidden in plain sight "ZERO" and that is all
ZERO will ever show us. He has given up because he must tickle
the ears of his stoolies.

Any serious researcher is after a clean effective way to produce
an alternate form of energy and does not jump all over like a
grasshopper dropping 10's of thousands for fun.

Zero has been at it for 10-20 years and will never find a practical
source of energy other than solar or wind. He can't help that he
is like that. He is not a true researcher. He is a man with 100's
of thousands to thrown around while he says I told ya so.

It don't work. ZERO.

Never mind all of that here watch the big boys.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRlwHLZhHeg[/VIDEO]


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqLW1wV35jA[/VIDEO]

These video's are > 1 year old. I checked his Facebook to see the end of the story and the celebration of the succes.https://www.facebook.com/geert.vranckx.1
nothing!!

[BroMikey]

Looks like more evolved QEG concept. You can replicate it ONLY if you have special grade nano-coatings...which can be bought only from Keshe.

No, you make them from old copper wire. Look at the TUBE video's
"GaNs" "nano coatings" lots of people are getting at it for practically
nothing.

Now I don't know if it works but it is a cheap enough experiment to
test Keshe work.

I was just watching a video where the guy made some of that green
goo (GaNs) and he rolled some it up on metal foils and now he has
a nice battery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpVFkzuKG9Y


The passive reactor was just set up. Electrodes are made of copper wires having half of their length nano coated by steam of aqueous NaOH solution in a polypropylene box, and the other half etched in acid, then thoroughly rinsed in water. The solution consists of water solution of salts found in the nature. Main salts used are NaCl and Mg2SO4, Some potassium salts ant some trace minerals are also present in a small quantity. The system weights 2119 grams on July 21, 2014.


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rn7MIdXFco[/VIDEO]

[BroMikey]

Hello all

I would like to suggest this fellow who is doing a serious replication of Keshe claims


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4B...fqOqy43JWtZb-w

Enough already of talking about ZERO's this guy really is a researcher
and he is a great thinker too. I have been following him. Nice link this
man is not a 6th grade experimenter.

[BroMikey]

Shall we connect an (milli-)ampmeter between the copper and zinc plate? and then discuss who needs to be corrected?



So Zero can only be trusted if he doesn't laugh

- Did you pray before you started?

- how did you pray and to whom?

- did you send good intentions to it?
(How on Earth do you send good intentions to a machine?

Your goal is to trick, drive a wedge, send out condescending messages

you are a crippled person or should I say very bitter and high minded.

All of your messages are well thought out ways to twist the words
of any post you are using to make your point. You are a miracle
worker when it comes to contrivances in speech to manipulate
your stoolies.

You are the only one that thinks what you do with others words
is hidden. Your desire to use words to divide and conquer for a
highminded purpose are clear to most.

Zero spends thousands upon thousands with no end in sight like
pouring cheat through a tin horn with no practical working OU.

All of his video's that validate any claim are left on a worthless
note of either not being cost effective or just plain silly.

What he is about is hidden in plain sight "ZERO" and that is all
ZERO will ever show us. He has given up because he must tickle
the ears of his stoolies.

Any serious researcher is after a clean effective way to produce
an alternate form of energy and does not jump all over like a
grasshopper dropping 10's of thousands for fun.

Zero has been at it for 10-20 years and will never find a practical
source of energy other than solar or wind. He can't help that he
is like that. He is not a true researcher. He is a man with 100's
of thousands to thrown around while he says I told ya so.

It don't work. ZERO.

Never mind all of that here watch the big boys.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRlwHLZhHeg[/VIDEO]


[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqLW1wV35jA[/VIDEO]

[boguslaw]

Shall we connect an (milli-)ampmeter between the copper and zinc plate? and then discuss who needs to be corrected?



So Zero can only be trusted if he doesn't laugh or makes jokes about those ludicrous ideas?
Come on! That at least shows that there is something going on inside his head.
You have very strong feelings against our modern education system and on many points I would share those. But to be led by those emotions into accepting anything and everything that is outside of what they teach, that goes a bit too far for me.
There are things that you learn at school that are actually true, and there are things that are not exactly true but will nevertheless predict the correct outcome.

Back to Mr. Zero,... There are hundreds of OU-claims, most of them not true. So it is very easy to pick ten or twenty and show they don't work. You can not blame Zero for that.
I like this man because of the way he does things. And if you don't like his results, tell him what he did wrong!

When I get energy from my magnifying transmitter I hope to see many people like him!
Sceptical, laughing, making jokes, but also trying their very best to replicate my results.
And then we will see who is laughing in the end.

The Keshe plans hold a number of undefined points on which he can always blame the fact that some replication does not work.
- Did you pray before you started?
- how did you pray and to whom?
- did you send good intentions to it?
(How on Earth do you send good intentions to a machine? By mail? e-mail? Does it have some interface where you can drop your intentions? ???? )
Keshe can always come to inspect your replica and say "I see that you or someone else send bad intentions to it.... verrrrrrry bad intentions...... the whole thing is ruined"


Ernst.

Looks like more evolved QEG concept. You can replicate it ONLY if you have special grade nano-coatings...which can be bought only from Keshe.

[Ernst]

If you all saw the Keshe seminar remember how even the very educated in the group had to be continually corrected? Keshe kept saying this is
not done with current?

Shall we connect an (milli-)ampmeter between the copper and zinc plate? and then discuss who needs to be corrected?

And Zero sort of made fun by saying he wasn't surprised that a certain
compound was not formed because there was no current?

As if current could be the only way to get the job done so Keshe
was put in the light as a liar by Zero as he chuckles.

So Zero can only be trusted if he doesn't laugh or makes jokes about those ludicrous ideas?
Come on! That at least shows that there is something going on inside his head.
You have very strong feelings against our modern education system and on many points I would share those. But to be led by those emotions into accepting anything and everything that is outside of what they teach, that goes a bit too far for me.
There are things that you learn at school that are actually true, and there are things that are not exactly true but will nevertheless predict the correct outcome.

Back to Mr. Zero,... There are hundreds of OU-claims, most of them not true. So it is very easy to pick ten or twenty and show they don't work. You can not blame Zero for that.
I like this man because of the way he does things. And if you don't like his results, tell him what he did wrong!

When I get energy from my magnifying transmitter I hope to see many people like him!
Sceptical, laughing, making jokes, but also trying their very best to replicate my results.
And then we will see who is laughing in the end.

The Keshe plans hold a number of undefined points on which he can always blame the fact that some replication does not work.
- Did you pray before you started?
- how did you pray and to whom?
- did you send good intentions to it?
(How on Earth do you send good intentions to a machine? By mail? e-mail? Does it have some interface where you can drop your intentions? ???? )
Keshe can always come to inspect your replica and say "I see that you or someone else send bad intentions to it.... verrrrrrry bad intentions...... the whole thing is ruined"


Ernst.

[Dfortune]

A serious "keshe" experimenter

Hello all

I would like to suggest this fellow who is doing a serious replication of Keshe claims

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4BmCgh_IfqOqy43JWtZb-w