Motor Generators

[alexelectric]

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understood and understandable for what they know of electrical and electronic operation..

Good demonstration of Lindeman, motor pulsed and recovering the collapse of the field to charge the battery, there is no back emf, the motor pulsed and commutated, the motor shutdown is operated when by means of the commutation, and when it is not conducting the transistor recovers the field that collapses and charges the battery, that is, there is no effect on the power supply input, with the output, two circuits that operate without affecting each other, when it is turned on and when it is turned off by means of the transistor.

What I don't know is how much Leemmnan recovers, I don't know if he doesn't show them in one of his videos, or on the sales DVD of his project.

Perhaps BroMikey, can guide me since I see that he follows several researchers and studies them, I consider that all contributions help us move forward.

All projects give us something that can help us improve, continue studying, building, reevaluating, and correcting.

[BroMikey]

This what people can be like in general. Plus all those who pay homage are birds of a feather.

Rick Friedrich

I am going to talk to you about what is wrong with Bedini's Tesla Switch and show you several very important clips from Bedini himself to forever settle this issue.

The info is good but some chose to bad mouth those who lead.

http://www.rexresearch.com/benitezba...g/benitez.html



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[BroMikey]

[BroMikey]

100 year old FE system Lindemann teaches on Benitez

[BroMikey]

[BroMikey]

Peter Lindemann has over 35 years experience teaching, researching and developing alternative energy technologies.

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Now I've been involved in "free energy" research for over 35 years and I have seen my share of working systems.

Then one day in 2006, I was discussing some things about electric motors on a discussion thread, and I asked if anybody knew how to build an electric motor that had "no back EMF?" No one in the thread seemed to know anything about this possibility; not even the smartest engineers present! This was a real eye opener for me, because it made me remember that the experiments we had run back in 1983 were extremely important.

this one is not a joke

[BroMikey]

So in other words, I am correct. Peter’s motor does not put out all this extra power

I never claimed anything, I quoted Peter L as being accurate for his COP 8.6

If you read my message (which you did not) and watched Peter L video (which you did not) you would not have to ask that retarded question as if you don't already know. The video clearly states that it is a motor secret, not a generator secret and is only half of the whole.

Like your mod motor generator you have a motor then there is the generator which is completely left out. This should be clarification enough for a supposed big name inventor. You just don't have it yet do you? Don't show me the bird finger, show me your setup. Then we will know where you got all your secrets.

Peter L is honest showing all, where is your humble gadget? Go back and review the material and write it on the board 20x before you return with another goofed up question.

Something visible plz, dude your true self is sticking out like horns, you should have quit while you were viewed as fair and balanced.

[Turion]

So in other words, I am correct. Peter’s motor does not put out all this extra power as you previously claimed. It requires a separate generator piece. Thanks for clarification.

[BroMikey]

. Please show where Peter demonstrates that it does more than RECOVER some of the input energy, which is what he SAYS it does.

About Bob's setup:
The two main batteries Bob is using have the negatives connected. Tonight, at my suggestion,

If it is like that in the morning (after running all night) or has gone up, it kinda demonstrates that there is some gain in this system, and that the motor is running for free.

How can we do that? Neither setup has all the parts. Except Peter L needs a reverse motor to generate like you told everyone using the mod motor. Who can demo fiction? You look at the attraction motor the same way yet all we have is you popping in with some goofy idea no one sees.

I see Peter's demo and it was always said to be the drive for a generator which is not shown, like your chosen phantom (poison) person. Zorro would be proud. Flim-flam all you like I see right thru your games

So yeah, dido, show us setup and demo so we can truly compare notes, which you seem so eager to do. For now we can not make any sort of comparison. My dog's better than your dog is the best you can do.

Peter is not the phantom here. Motor secret's is all you needed so fess up.
Just follow the yellow brick road and make sure you don't give credit to anyone except yourselves B&D motor generator secret's would make a good book but first you will need more than erasable internet text I call heresy.

You and Bob are a waste of breath because you have said you don't have to prove anything. And if anyone ever asks they are told to go fu*k themselves in so many words.
Then scolded and shamed for asking. We all know what to expect and your response. By the weekend is not a real answer.

No one trusts you. I know that many of the theories you project are true from tests I have made but I am one of a kind. Crying about the lack of investors so your wife can retire on the big money without a foundational trust is funny. You have to earn trust.

Did you finish your genX demo? Don't ask don't tell, I already know it was your bench work, right?
There will be no adoration for a phantom idea built on other's books

[Turion]

I believe the importance of this motor was that it had NO BACK EMF, could run loads, and recovered much of the electricity that went into it in order to charge a second power source or light a light. It ran on 20 volts at .2 amps, and if it puts out MORE than that, it is NOT demonstrated. It would have blown out that tiny light if it put out MORE. Please show where Peter demonstrates that it does more than RECOVER some of the input energy, which is what he SAYS it does. He specifically says it "recovers some of the input energy." Which he then uses to light the light or charge a battery. It is not a generator that produces power, it is a NO BACK EMF MOTOR.

About Bob's setup:
The two main batteries Bob is using have the negatives connected. Tonight, at my suggestion, he connected the two positives with a diode that allows energy from the charge battery to flow to the source. Putting them in parallel. The batteries have settled out and equalized at a higher voltage than either battery started with. If it is like that in the morning (after running all night) or has gone up, it kinda demonstrates that there is some gain in this system, and that the motor is running for free.

I can almost guarantee that it will have more torque than the attraction motor because the dual rotors mean there are magnets on BOTH ends of the coil, and when you fire the coil as a motor coil, the MAGNETS do most of the work. You get a very strong reaction because of the magnets with VERY LITTLE input. BUT it probably DOES have Back EMF. Haven't tested for that. So choose your poison. We want to build it with "Lenz free" (No back EMF) coils, and then we have the best of both worlds. But it would only be Lenz free at a specific RPM, while Peter's motor has no back EMF at ANY speed.

[BroMikey]

He had it all, got old and passed from the scene all tangled up in red tape with zero funding from the mob.

http://www.free-energy.ws/pdf/teal_newspaper.pdf

[BroMikey]

One run battery and charges two other batteries. Plus output from the motor.

Now he has something he is very excited about.

but not by very much. But it is the PRINCIPLES we learn that are important.

Thanks to those who teach

[BroMikey]

That motor has nothing to do with the 3 Battery system. Entirely different circuit.

Edit: According to Bob, motor is still running unloaded 24/7 for seven days not four. And loss of .02 on primary while charging two other batteries in parallel.

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[alexelectric]

Greetings BroMikey


All research work requires time, effort, dedication and material resources, knowledge and study, experimentation.

Any experimenter who carries out his work in the home workshop requires a lot of merit, he is an explorer, a seeker, and more merit if that experimenter is tenacious and persistent, he will make progress, he may also have setbacks.

Everything that Mr. Dave has shared with us is very relevant, it is part of years of dedication and effort, his contributions are one more link in that tireless search, who else does it, there are few.

Much is demanded of Mr. Dave, much is asked of him, he is claimed, but who gives him support?

He will continue to be a seeker, an experimenter, he faces his challenges, with his advances and setbacks.

[Turion]

That motor has nothing to do with the 3 Battery system. Entirely different circuit. One run battery and charges two other batteries. Plus output from the motor. Has been running for four days now with the primary battery maintaining steady. Just letting it run to see what happens before experimenting to add load to the motor and more motor coils.

Edit: I built this circuit years ago, saw it worked and didn't put out much. Thought it wasn't worth my time. Oh how wrong I was. I told Bob about it, and he built it and saw that you get "a little extra" out of it. I suggested a couple additions based on things I have learned and he implemented them. Now he has something he is very excited about. I am replicating and we are building a much larger version to see if it can be scaled up. If it can, we may come back here and show it. If not, we will let you know it was a dud. The little one is absolutely COP>1, but not by very much. But it is the PRINCIPLES we learn that are important. Which is why we were able to add to this circuit and improve the output. We applied a principle we have learned. The little things can add up.

Edit: According to Bob, motor is still running unloaded 24/7 for seven days not four. And loss of .02 on primary while charging two other batteries in parallel.