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  • TheoriaApophasis
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    Originally posted by Vinyasi View Post

    Here is a review I posted at Amazon on Joseph Cater's book, "The Awesome Life Force" regarding the reaction of aluminum to electromagnetic forces placed upon it ...

    Fantastic text on little known principles of mechanical and electrical engineering..., December 15, 2014


    you can download that book FREE on scribd.com

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  • Vinyasi
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    Dirty Electricity and the Watt-Hour Meter...

    Originally posted by MasterBlaster View Post
    The first two posts of this thread may be relevant to this topic.
    http://www.energeticforum.com/renewa...lectrcity.html
    Very interesting link. Thanks.

    In retrospect, I didn't immediately understand until now what you were implying, that aluminum - although functional in the original design of the watt-hour meter - is hampering our ability to measure what is going on: the production of dirty electricity.

    To play it safe, I've ordered one DE suppressor and will probably order some more in the near future.

    Despite these hazards, or instead of them, and in order to better understand how Tesla's Special Generator may have operated, I still pursue investigation into how on Earth do these old meters do their thing?

    I've sometimes wondered if the separation of voltage from current in the watt-hour meter's armature might jeopardize our safe cohabitation with it? But I like to hold out the possibility of utilizing at least some of its principles of operation for some other device.

    Here is a review I posted at Amazon on Joseph Cater's book, "The Awesome Life Force" regarding the reaction of aluminum to electromagnetic forces placed upon it ...

    Fantastic text on little known principles of mechanical and electrical engineering..., December 15, 2014

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  • MasterBlaster
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    Aluminium

    The first two posts of this thread may be relevant to this topic.

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  • Vinyasi
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    Reverse wiring of the watt-hour meter...

    No. Reverse wiring was not in his book. What he said was, "in a peculiar way".

    But he was interviewed by a Paul Scarzo and, in that interview, he admits to accidentally hooking them up backwards on two separate branch circuits in one of the apartments in his complex. He also has admitted the backwards requirement, more than once, in emails to me.

    I did a watt hour meter YouTube series starting off with an excerpt from that interview. Here it is,

    http://tinyURL.com/tesla-sgen
    or
    http://tinyURL.com/teslasgen

    ...or search for the video series using the search terms:

    tesla's tri-metal generator
    Last edited by Vinyasi; 01-01-2015, 05:39 PM. Reason: added a title and a short-cut link

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  • ewizard
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    Based on info in Lyne's book I bought 4 regular house electric meters (mechanical - not the new electronic type) a couple years ago. I played around with them a little and was trying for the effect he said he saw with 2 meters hooked together in some way that resulted in the meter going backwards on the house. I had some trouble figuring out how the meters were normally wired up if I recall despite doing all my own house wiring including installing the main 200 amp meter socket and panel. I had always intended to write Lyne to ask his help on this but it got lost in the shuffle of a hundred other things to do. I still have the 4 meters. Might play around with them some more but it would help if there was a schematic on how to set them up. I don't actually recall him saying to hook ONE up in reverse by itself. Was that in his book?

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  • Vinyasi
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    Originally posted by wrtner View Post
    I, too, have heard this said. But a meter of a particular type, like this, I think:

    Overview of Single Phase Induction Type Energy Meter | EEP

    It should be possible to work out what is going on. someone said that it had physics in common with the unipolar generator.
    Thanks for the tip.

    Although I thought I had experimented enough, and because Mr. Lyne said that any make and model of the electro-mechanical watt hour meter will do the job, I stopped experimenting because I was failing to produce results, namely: reaching center of load wherein the aluminum disk stops spinning and hums. According to the Electrical Meterman's Handbook from 1912, this occurs whenever the amperage and voltage are out of phase by 60 degrees (possibly with the current still retaining its leading position ahead of voltage instead of swapped?).

    Mr. Lyne said there was only a few requirements: wire the meter backwards such that the line entering from the power source is connected to the load terminals on the meter, and the load wire is connected to the line terminals. The other requirement is to increase the load.

    A patent from the 1930s admitted that it was known back then that the aluminum disk slows down around 300% to 400% of rated load for the meter. And this occurs, according to Mr. Lyne, whenever the increasing load is approaching the meter's center of load. The disk will speed up, slow down, stop and hum, and then slowly (at first) speed up in reverse direction as the load is increased. But only if the terminals on the meter are reverse connected to line and load. Various meter handbooks speak of the commonality of meter disks reversing direction merely from swapping terminal connections. This implies that the disk is already reverse spinning (when the terminal connections are swapped) before center of load is reached. So that, once center of load is surpassed with increasing load, then the disk will resume in a spin opposite to its former direction - which will be standardly normal, left to right on the dial!

    I loaded up a General Electric I-10 meter from 1910,

    General Electric Type I-10

    ...rated at 5-10 amps, to around 48 amps and no sign of any reduction in speed of disk - let alone humming or reversing. I tried both forward and backwards terminal connections. Plus, I tried various loads: inductive and non-inductive. I was afraid of taking the amperage any higher for fear of overheating the house wiring in the walls.

    Maybe I'll try again with the model which you have suggested.

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  • wrtner
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    Originally posted by Vinyasi View Post
    The electro-mechanical watt hour meter of a bygone era (for some of us) is an extremely scaled down version of Tesla's Special Generator to the point of mediocrity.
    I, too, have heard this said. But a meter of a particular type, like this, I think:

    Overview of Single Phase Induction Type Energy Meter | EEP

    It should be possible to work out what is going on. someone said that it had physics in common with the unipolar generator.

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  • Vinyasi
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    I might as well add that a friend of mine, an electrician, had the good fortune of personally knowing a coworker who demonstrated a successful replication of this type of device several years ago no larger than a spiral bound notebook for two of its dimensions which ran a medium sized electric motor. It was taken away and the demonstration was abruptly terminated when the inventor started having misgivings for exhibiting his device and it was never discussed nor demonstrated ever again except at a dinner in which my friend hosted this inventor. At this dinner, the inventor shared only one fact of his device, that it was made of the three metals: copper, aluminum and iron. So, I can claim knowing twice removed of the validity of Mr. Lyne's story in addition to the story - quoted in Pentagon Aliens - of a Mr. Dort who was the son of a man who worked with Tesla sharing this knowledge with the Nazis for their electro-U boats.
    Last edited by Vinyasi; 12-10-2014, 05:02 AM. Reason: grammar and clarity

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  • Vinyasi
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    Tesla's Special Tri-Metal Generator

    According to William Lyne in his book, Pentagon Aliens, Tesla had a generator that the Nazi's used during WWII in their electro-U boats having a range of 30,000 miles. The generator used the three metals of: aluminum, copper and iron. For every 200 pounds of iron attached to the device (in addition to any iron inside of any coil windings), one horsepower was added to the generator's output. The electro-mechanical watt hour meter of a bygone era (for some of us) is an extremely scaled down version of Tesla's Special Generator to the point of mediocrity.

    So,...

    Anyone have any ideas to share?

    Mr. Lyne doesn't give much information more than this towards the back of his book, but he does give pictures and some insightful speculation on how it might have worked.

    One embodiment of his employs the use of compressed air to drive a reciprocating piston which oscillates no more than a sixteenth of an inch. Also, its frequency of oscillations must be in resonance with the cavity surrounding the generator.

    Mr. Lyne speculates that the huge hull of Germany's U-boats would have added a lot of horsepower if connected to this device.

    Since I don't have any background in electrical bench testing, or even theory, my best guess is to stumble along holding onto wishful thinking driven by the notion that - if its true that 550 of Tesla's patents, out of a total of 700 - are highly classified *top secret*, and that this one patent of Tesla's is just one among those that have been squirreled away from us, then I feel that it belongs to us and not to a privileged few. So, I'm game to speculate on the notion that maybe we can slowly figure this mystery out.
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