Basic Free Energy Device

[Turion]

Marine Pump

dmann,
I have no idea if that's a brushed DC motor in that thing or not. I will check tomorrow. I just happen to have one sitting on my shelf that I used as a load on battery 3 in some experiments I did a while back. It's too late to go looking in the basement for it tonight, but tomorrow I will check it out and post the info. I DO know it is much smaller than a Razor Scooter motor though. So it will be harder to work with, and you can't really attach a load to that motor without major modification, since it is built into the pump. I guess the pump becomes the load on the motor, but that means buckets and water and hoses. I did all that. Pain in the butt.

Dave

[dmann]

Harbour Freight has a 12V marine pump motor (item #9576) for $35. Does anyone have experiance with this product. Would it work for this experiment?

[Turion]

altrez

Well, at least you are seeing a little of what can happen with this kind of setup. When you put an off the shelf motor between two positives, the voltage goes into one side and out the other side comes that voltage as well as the generated voltage of the motor. So things get even MORE interesting. 12 volts in and about 14 volts out. Without switching those primaries will still drain, but you get a nice charge on battery 3 up to a point. Beyond that it is wasted.

Dave

[altrez]

Try any kind of brushed DC motor in place of the light…The bigger the motor the better.

Dave

Hi Dave,

My my1016 will be here tomorrow! Will try that



-Altrez

[Turion]

Your setup

Try any kind of brushed DC motor in place of the light…The bigger the motor the better.

Dave

[altrez]

I did a quick test this evening. I set up my battery's in the standard config with battery three at 6.7 volts. I used a 12v 20 watt light as the load. The two new batteries did drain a few volts but they charged battery 3 to 12.7v and at the same time my light got brighter and brighter its temp got over 250 degrees.

Not sure whats happening.



-Altrez

[Turion]

wrtner & altrez,

since we will be rewinding these, those motors should work.

Dave

[altrez]

The MY1016 part number seems to come as a 250w or a 350w version. Does this make much difference to us?

This is the one I bought.

New 24V 280W Motor My 1016 Razor E300 Pocket Rocket Mod Go Kart Electric Scooter | eBay

-Altrez

[wrtner]

The MY1016 part number seems to come as a 250w or a 350w version. Does this make much difference to us?

[Turion]

My1016

I shop around a LOT on eBay for these motors. I probably have over 20 of them in various stages of assembly. I can usually pick one up for between $25 and $30 with free shipping. Be careful because the shipping, if not free, will tack on $15 or$20 to the price of the motor.

Dave

[wrtner]

wayne.ct,
We are going to be using a razor scooter motor. I just got an MY1016 in the mail a day or so ago.

I see Ebay vendors are doing them for £30 -£40. They can come with a little gearbox. Should I take it that this is of no real value?

[altrez]

Here is a perfectly good example of a regulated 3 battery system. The component is not a linear voltage regulator but Buck replacment DC to DC converter. Now go back and look at the trouble Benitez had to go through.



Matt

Hi Matt,

Thank you for sharing that schematic I can see how this would work now and cant wait to start on the project.



-Altrez

[Turion]

wayne.ct,
We are going to be using a razor scooter motor. I just got an MY1016 in the mail a day or so ago. It will be rewound as a pulse motor based on what we have learned. If you have that, and a few batteries, you have what you need to begin. But as I have said a couple times, this will NOT be a 3BGS, although we are using some of the principles we learned there.

Dave

[wayne.ct]

General size parameters

Using this as a starting point:

http://www.energeticforum.com/renewable-energy/19774-basic-free-energy-device.html#post264757

I am trying to determine the consensus on how to size the components so I will be in the same general ballpark as everyone else.

I have 3 sealed lead acid batteries (SLAs) that are 12 volt 3Ah and I have a variety of permanent magnet motors that I can pick from. What should I look for when picking which one or two to use?

[Turion]

I don't see a picture. WIll try another browser