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  • Turion
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    Cats and bags

    Guys, if you are not careful, you're going to let the cat out of the bag! Nothing worse than a loose cat!

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  • Mario
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    Boguslaw,

    again, yes I've seen it, since you've posted it like three times lol.

    What I asked was: have you built it and tetsted it?

    Mario

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  • SkyWatcher
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    Hi all, Hi sawt2, here is the circuit and pic of coil and setup.
    peace love light



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  • Mario
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    I've seen the circuit. That's not what I asked.

    Mario

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  • Mario
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    Boguslaw,

    I have no idea what your circuit is supposed to do? Have you built it and tested?

    Mario

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  • Mario
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    I apologize for the very rough drawing but I'm out of time right now..

    It's just a basic setup of a solid state SG running two primaries with a secondary in between with its load. the collapse of the primaries goes to a battery.
    You can put this between the potential difference in the 3 batt setup instead of a pulse motor or SG. In that case you need bifilar coils on the primaries. The second (isolated) wire of each bifilar primary coil routes the collapse of the primaries to battery 3.
    There's another setup where you can do the same without needing the bifilars to go to battery 3 but I want to test it first.

    Mario
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  • Sawt2
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    Originally posted by Mario View Post
    Hi V,

    it's 3 coils sitting on a straight ferrite core, right next to each other. This has not much to do with Kunel, no permanent magnets. This is just simple transformer action and recovery from the collapsing field.
    For transformer action only, closed cores are more efficient of course, but here we also want to collect the collapsing field, and from what I've been testing an open core is much more suitable. An open core with just two coils has an inefficient transformer action, but it gets much better when you put the secondary between two primaries.

    Mario
    Would you be able to sketch your circuit out for us.
    Thank you

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  • Sawt2
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    Originally posted by SkyWatcher View Post
    Hi all, the 5 strand coil on the ferrite tube is looking very efficient so far.
    I am using 1 strand for oscillator feedback, 2 strands in parallel for primary and the other 2 strands are in series and connected to full wave bridge rectifier.
    A couple 6 watt led bulbs are in series with bridge DC output, then into 3rd charge battery position.
    peace love light
    Any chance you would do a sketch of that circuit.
    Thank you

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  • SkyWatcher
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    An open core with just two coils has an inefficient transformer action, but it gets much better when you put the secondary between two primaries.
    Hi all, Hi mario, what about the secondary being tightly coupled to the primary, as i am testing right now, with the twisted multi-strand coil on an open ferrite core.
    Sure seems to be doing very well so far, i know, because i've been testing many different coil setups.
    Though your idea may be just as good.
    peace love light

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  • blackchisel97
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    Originally posted by Mario View Post
    Hi V,

    it's 3 coils sitting on a straight ferrite core, right next to each other. This has not much to do with Kunel, no permanent magnets. This is just simple transformer action and recovery from the collapsing field.
    For transformer action only, closed cores are more efficient of course, but here we also want to collect the collapsing field, and from what I've been testing an open core is much more suitable. An open core with just two coils has an inefficient transformer action, but it gets much better when you put the secondary between two primaries.

    Mario
    Thanks Mario. All clear

    V

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  • SkyWatcher
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    Hi all, the 5 strand coil on the ferrite tube is looking very efficient so far.
    I am using 1 strand for oscillator feedback, 2 strands in parallel for primary and the other 2 strands are in series and connected to full wave bridge rectifier.
    A couple 6 watt led bulbs are in series with bridge DC output, then into 3rd charge battery position.
    peace love light

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  • SkyWatcher
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    Hi mario, i'm aware of what your intention is, i just feel it has similar attributes.

    I have 2 different coil-cores i'm going to try for my solid state oscillator.
    One is from some previous partnered coil experiments, it has 3 coils on a ferrite flyback c-core, bifilar coil in middle, with a secondary on each side, all wire is 24awg. magnet wire.

    The other coil-core is from another previous experiment, it is five strands of 24awg. magnet wire on a straight ferrite tube core, i just went outside and using a drill, twisted all 5 strands together, total length, about 60 feet.
    I figure i would use 2 strands for the oscillator, or maybe 1 feedback and 2 in parallel, then place the other 2 strands in series with full wave bridge output to 3rd charge battery.
    peace love light

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  • Mario
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    Skywatcher,

    I'm not using permanent magnets. I just described a way to substitute the pulse motor in the 3 battery system with a transformer that does have an acceptable transfer rate from primary ()or primaries to secondary, and is pretty good in recycling the collapse. This in itself is not OU but it is a good option for the 3 battery system. Not all transformers allow to do both well.

    Mario

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  • SkyWatcher
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    Hi all, Hi mario, i think you are correct.
    I remember in the garry stanley motor thread, garry said the permanent magnet on both sides of the air core coil, created a kind of preloaded magnetic field, which made up for the fact that the coil did not have a ferromagnetic core.
    In your idea, it is doing a similar thing, making up for the lack of a closed core and yet we can still maximize the collapsing field.
    I will try that coil-core design, though i will wind a 2 strand coil (bifilar) on each side of a secondary, connected to function as a blocking oscillator.
    peace love light

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  • Mario
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    Hi V,

    it's 3 coils sitting on a straight ferrite core, right next to each other. This has not much to do with Kunel, no permanent magnets. This is just simple transformer action and recovery from the collapsing field.
    For transformer action only, closed cores are more efficient of course, but here we also want to collect the collapsing field, and from what I've been testing an open core is much more suitable. An open core with just two coils has an inefficient transformer action, but it gets much better when you put the secondary between two primaries.

    Mario

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