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[cikljamas]

The earth spinning on it's axis is what makes the moon go so fast in the sky.

What that has got to do with the eclipses of the Moon? Are you still drunk?

While i was examining this "Moon in the shadow problem" before i went to sleep last night i noticed the very same flaw that you have pointed to...(as if i had knew that someone was going to raise this question this morning)

Anyway, it doesn't change the HC dead end position generally regarding this "HC Moon-nightmare"

Within first (old) hypothesis the Moon revolves around the Earth daily with the speed of 17,280 km/hour, so it takes 24 hours for Moon to cross 414 720 km. It is obviously much less than 2 386 400 km which is allegedly lenght of the Moon's orbit within today's (new) HC hypothesis.

So, 414 720 / 2 / 3,14 = 60 988 = distance between the Earth and the Moon (old hypothesis)

60 988 / 12 800 = 4,7 = number of the diameters of the Earth (old hypothesis)

So, within this (old) hypothesis, shadow of the Earth (since the Moon is just 4,7 Earth's diameters away from the Earth) would be pretty much in accordance with the main point of old objections to that old HC Moon theory, regarding eclipses of the Moon!

Now, 414720 / 32 = 12960 / 288 km (180 mi) = 45 min. So, it was wrong to say that the Moon needs 4 minutes to pass through the shadow of the Earth, needed time is about 10 times more than that, but that amount of time still presents too fast motion for producing eclipses which has been known to have been extended up to 4 hours.

However, eclipses of the Moon maybe had not even been the first main reason for major changes of HC theory regarding "Moon nightmare problem".

Anyway, within a NEW theory we have got what we have:

12 800 (diameter of the Earth) / 3200 km/h (NEW speed of the Moon) = 4 hours (EXACTLY - anything suspicious???)

But, Huston, we got a problem:

From that distance (380 000 km) the shadow of the Earth would be almost 4 times LARGER than the diameter of the Earth!!! So, you losers lose again!!!



And as i explained before, the much bigger problem for this NEW theory is the "apparent" motion of the Moon which should be much slower than "apparent" motion of the Sun, but unfortunately for HC liars the "apparent" motion of the Moon is much faster than the "apparent" motion of the Sun!!!

And finally, this is just one additional (not crucial at all) among countless examples of falsity of HC fraud theory!!!

to reality!!!

[Ernst]

When talking about the moon passing through the shadow of the Earth there is another factor that comes into play. But how do you explain this to a toddler?
The way it is stated is partly the cause of this oversight. You should rephrase it as follows:
The shadow of the Earth is moving across the Moon.
So.... what velocity is still missing in this equation?
Let our Loony the Lost Lunatic Looser chew in this for a moment...



Ernst.

[Hrothgar]

PS

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...-scale.svg.png how far does the moon have to travel to move through the earths shadow from this picture I'd say about 4 degrees

[Hrothgar]

[aljhoa]

@cikljamas you are a tool cos

Flat Earth Irrefutable Proof

Al

[cikljamas]

Al, you haven't slightest idea where is the root of true evil in today's world, and you have no idea who are even worse and much more dangerous fanatics than ISIL bastards. I didn't intend to put this in this thread, but since you are such a pain in my ass, i will show you what you have to investigate if you want to reach the real root - bottom of all the evil in today's world:

Secret societies and old European bloodline families are in control of the world today. To better understand what they do, we need to look at their philosophies and ideas. One motto of theirs is "Ordo ab Chao" or "order out or chaos". First they create CHAOS, then they propose the solution, ORDER, secretly from behind the scenes to control a given situation. There are different areas of Freemasonry and it is all a hierarchy of power. Occasionally, Masonic groups will work against each other in the public forum through the agencies which they control, but they may be united behind the scenes. You will see examples of what I mean very soon.

The first Masonic lodges by that name appeared in England in the 1600's and within a century they were spread throughout most of Europe, including Germany and France and the colonies of early America. One of the purposes they served was as a forum for the elite individuals to meet and discuss their political and social views without fear of religious persecution. Remember, just a couple of centuries earlier under Rome in the Dark Ages, they would kill you if you didn't believe that the moon was made of green cheese. In Rome, they realized that they could not rule the world by themselves and that they would need a consensus of nations or a United Kingdom and United Nations. The symbol for Fascism is a bundle of sticks wrapped together with a hatchet or an axe tied to it.

It represents a world consensus of power or AXIS POWER. It appears on the U. S. Senate flag today and on the back of the American mercury dime from 1916 to 1945. While there were several enlightened societies around calling themselves illuminated, it was on May 1, 1776 that Professor Adam Weishaupt put together a secret society called The "ILLUMINATI". It's sole purpose secretly was to control the world. Weishaupt was a genius of a particular sort as far as scheming and manipulation are concerned. He was a respected teacher at the University of Ingolstadt at the time and had many connections in education. He became a Mason but was also a Jesuit priest. He learned as much as he could and decided to put his own secret society together. He used a process of initiation and power dissemination among ranks similar to the structure of a pyramid, where one sole individual or group at the top know what's going on but no one else really does, they only know a little until they succeed up the ranks and learn only a little more. In the meantime, they don't know who is watching them or above them keeping them in check.

In the highest circles of the order they propose to control the world through a One-world government, which they stated they could do by converting existing Masons to concepts of Illuminism. Weishaupt told them about the Utopia that could be established on Earth if everyone who KNEW would secretly work together to bring about this plan. Being free-thinkers and atheists to begin with, they proposed abolishing religion, government, orders of class, right to own property, or even raise your own children; and they believed that the ENDS justified the MEANS, meaning that whatever it takes to accomplish this task should be done WITHOUT HESITATION. Within two years they had over 3000 members and many established lodges. Within several years they were exposed and banished from Bavaria. The documents were recovered and displayed in the British museum where they exist today. This is an important historical fact that has been severely covered up in America. They continued to exist, however, in the form of the German Union and scattered Reading Societies. Through their combined fortunes, the members of the Illuminati gained control over the literary societies and printing press. They circulated printed papers showing falsities of religion and abuses of government and promoted a general state of desperation throughout society, all the while blaming it on religion and government. They sought to promote ANARCHY and REVOLUTION, whereby they would strip the monarchy (king) of power using the classes (people) as a lever to ultimately bring power back into their own hands, all the while creating new forms of government which would be puppets they could secretly control from behind the scenes.

In Germany, the lodges which preceded the Illuminati were the Lodge Theodore and the Lodge of Strict Observance. In France they were known as the GRAND ORIENT TEMPLE MASONS. Their motto was "LIBERTY, EQUALITY, FRATERNITY". In 1789, they beheaded the King and Queen of France and orchestrated what was historically known as the French Revolution. This was only the first of several revolutions to come. Weishaupt had succeeded in grabbing the existing reigns of power in both Europe and America, entwining them together using new philosophical concepts, and tightening all of the existing slack.

In 1797, a book appeared in Europe by John Robison called "Proofs of A Conspiracy against all of the Religions and Governments of Europe, Carried on in the Secret Meetings of Freemasons, Illuminati and Reading Societies". Then in 1799, written in another country and in another language, Abbe Augustine Barruel published his four-volume study entitled "Memoirs Illustrating the History of Jacobinism". Then in 1826, William Morgan, an American Freemason who had written a book entitled "Illustrations of Freemasonry", was abducted and drowned in Lake Ontario. Because of the existence of these books, as well as the murder scandal, there was a nationwide furor resulting in the creation of an Anti-Masonic political party in 1829. After this there was a temporary drop in membership in the lodges, but their control over the press soon caused the anger to diminish...

Now you have got the answer to one another question also: Who benefits from this copernican concept and who protect this theory in a bunker under a 50 foot thick ceiling of solid "scientific" concrete.

IT'S WORSE THAN YOU KNOW

[aljhoa]

flat earth
god

Humans still deep in the dark of ignorance.

Over 1.5 "fidel's" billions and


mushrikun (infidels) of Dar al-Harb (region of war) are of two types:

FirstSecond
Dhimmitude Past and Present :* An Invented or Real History?


Al

[cikljamas]

Hi idiots, are you having a good fun?
So, since you have organized such a great party for lunatics, it's pity to interrupt you, but i just have to show you something:

Talking about the moon we have to recall the fact that "the moon case" presents one of the worst nightmares which bother and torment HC lunatics.

Let's see why:

To avoid objections like this...

Now, pay attention to a passage from the book that had been released 110 years ago:

Again, the Earth, with a supposed diameter of 8,000 miles, is said to revolve round the Sun, with the velocity of about 1100 miles per minute; the Moon being reckoned to have a diameter of 2,200 miles, and to go round the Earth at the rate of 180 miles per minute, thus, according to calculation, the Eclipse of the Moon, by the shadow of the Earth passing it, should not take four minutes, whereas the usual time occupied by a Lunar Eclipse is generally about two hours, and it has been known to have been extended to four.

So, it seems that the adjustment for the speed of the Moon has been done sometime in the beginning of 20th century...How embarrassing!!!

...HC lunatics did this:

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FROM BAD TO WORSE

Now HC lunatics have to answer to this:

EXPLANATION:

A typical total lunar eclipse lasts about 1 hour and the moon clears the penumbra or shadow of the earth in about 7 hours. That means that the moon has moved about 1/2 way around the earth in about 7 hours.Just too slow to accomplish 1/2 way around the Earth in just a few hours!!!!!!

But they can't explain it, thus this is the end of this game...

Whichever option you choose, you will choose wrong option.

The only possible right option is FET, and had you not been 100 % crazy (and i strongly doubt that you are not 100 % crazy) you would have opted for FET long time ago...

Keep on enjoying your party for lunatics!

[Ernst]

A flat moon! that can not possibly stay in the sky!

I showed you irrefutable evidence a number of posts ago that the moon is hollow, and half-spherical. To add some extra irrefutable evidence: In Indonesia they have a rice dish called "nasi", this originates from "NASA" which the Monkey King used to talk about with them at their dinner table. But the Indonesians did not know about the NASA back then, so they assumed he was talking about the food.

So there you go! More irrefutable evidence.

BTW, in the hollow half there is an engine with a propeller to keep the moon going, that is why we never see that half!

More irrefutable evidence.


Ernst.

[TheoriaApophasis]

baby

dont you know that the MOON is a FLAT diner plate hung by GOD in the sky over the flat earth.

[TheoriaApophasis]

Hrothgar, while you are watching these videos, try to figure out how big smart ass you really are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNZUbdBw--U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_1UiHJQH0g#t=3m10s

My lord, youre insane.



videos of the EARTH TURNING into the sun.

Spherical rotation, day and night.

[Hrothgar]

Thanks! those videos prove my point!

The point that you yourself nullify your own sun argument when you hide behind Eric Dollard's statements about the mechanics of the sun! However let's look at that beautiful sunrise shall we? Good we shall then you note that when that when the sun first creates a sliver of light you must have been tingling with anticipation at the look on my face, EXCEPT! If the the sun why is it a line on the ocean and not a dot fading in above it?!?!?! Wait let's just say that is some trick of conspiracy. Alright let's watch more. What?!?!?! the sun is half circle?!?!?!? shouldn't the center be seen first not the top half?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X1adM3UNIzA Here is one of the moon, note the pattern just slides straight up out of the water That "distortion" at the bottom is the reflection off of the ocean which is readily apparent once the lower edge is independently visible!

While I may only be a high school graduate. My ass however, has a masters degree in kicking your two bit trolling to the curb. Peace love and rock'n'roll to ya baby

[cikljamas]

Hrothgar, while you are watching these videos, try to figure out how big smart ass you really are:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNZUbdBw--U

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P_1UiHJQH0g#t=3m10s

[TheoriaApophasis]

Flat Earth Irrefutable Proof
Al

flat earth

scientology

god

santa claus

the easter bunny.




Humans still deep in the dark of ignorance.

[Hrothgar]

you haven't refuted...

the refuting of your irrefutable assertion.

Your still dodging why celestial objects get chopped off at the horizon instead of having the farthest parts of them fade into the horizon first as is your stated belief. The face of the moon doesn't distort or turn when it sets which is contrary to your belief. If your stated belief can be refuted with a cheap telescope then how can you claim to win anything or is it a big conspiracy to make the moon extra clear in telescopes.