Newman Motor Finally Explained?

[BroMikey]

Hi Duncan and all

I thought this was always important to review. Arcing carbon OU

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MKfebTL2iiY[/VIDEO]

[Duncan]

Hi David of course without a prejudiced view lets dissemble what you write, as I say there are odd tricks being played with our thinking and I include my own

Let's assume for just a moment that Newman actually HAD something that produced more out than what you put in. How did he get it?

Lets rather assume nothing, lets rather consider that the many Professors Doctors and Engineers who were given free access to the machine and tested it many times knew how to use their instruments and testing (they used their own names addresses and put their reputations on the line) The very heart of where the extra energy is obtained is of course at the heart of the thread.

Probably in much the same way as John B did with the SG...the collapse of a coil to produce a high voltage discharge that can be used to charge up a bank of batteries. Not some massive generator that produces a Niagra Falls cascade of energy, but a simple system that will keep your batteries charged up, and in fact, charges them much faster than is commonly thought possible.

Of course to charge and restore batteries - Its such common knowledge now that pulse chargers restore batteries its simply a mute point and thats regardless of if it happens to be your own 3BGS ,Johns SSG or indeed a singe capacitor using di-electric breakdown and bridge the battery will be restored and charged. what portion of that curve provides extra free energy is the effect of interest to most of us and why. Classical electrical theory is not concerned with scale , In fact you will have seen EPD in the video I posted demonstrating resonance on open line feeders on a desk . Never mind Niagara falls and the power lines, still the principles dont change and the events are historical fact.

This is high voltage without current so many people will look at it as not worth much. But there are two devices we have to store that voltage that quite conveniently accept high voltage with little current in one side and supply lower voltage WITH current on the other side. One is a capacitor and the other is a battery.

David without being unkind I don't know how to start on this one.the components you mention store 'energy' not voltage as does a coil there always must be voltage and current however I guess if you could approach perfect resonance in a parallel circuit then you might have the situation you describe. perfect resonance isn't possible because theres always a resistance still that can be minimized with lots of winds the term High voltage is relative .

How do you get that discharge at little or no cost? You need a switching device that will supply low voltage to a coil and then turn it off SHARPLY to give you the coil collapse. If that switching device ALSO includes a spark gap, so much the better because something interesting happens when you introduce that spark PLUS a coil collapse. I've built such devices using an Arduino and mechanical devices which included a spark gap and the spark gap out performs the solid state for energy production per pulse, but the Arduino is able to pulse more times per minute than a mechanical, so is more efficient.

To use an Arduino, simply use the "Blink" program to fire a transistor allowing 12 volts to charge the coil, and then capture the energy of the collapse in a bridge rectifier across the coil. But remember. This is a different KIND of energy and you must condition your batteries to receive it (which means draining them BEFORE you charge them this way and running them through many charge cycles) and then they cannot be charged conventionally. Why do this? Well, according to John B they charge faster, they hold the charge better and they increase in capacity.

If you are doing it mechanically you need some kind of rotary switching device. A hall switch, optical switch, reed switch, or trigger coil like John used. Bob French and I have developed our own mechanical switch which utilizes a spark gap and is pretty efficient up to a certain rpm.

I am quite proficient with Arduino's PLCs and other programmable devices for the simple operation you describe a 555 is good enough. still Arduino's are fun. simply put 'pulse battery charger' in your search engine for more circuits and confirmation than you can shake a stick at.

Oh, by the way, when I do this, the coil I pulse is between the positives on the three battery system so
that almost all of the energy pulsed into the coil is collected in the charge battery. Pulse the coil and

inject the the Bemf into a battery ? Just the same as every one else then Bedini,Newman ,Adams ect without exception ?

Oh, by the way, the coils I use to do this are actually motor coils so I also get mechanical energy out of this since it causes a motor to turn.

Just like Newman Bedini Adams and uncle tom cobbley an all then?

Oh, by the way, this motor is also running a Lenz free generator which produces power as the motor rotates.
So you use a pulse to create more energy than you started with. You get MOST of the pulsed energy BACK in the charge batteries, and you get GENERATED energy from every pulse. You have to keep the two systems separate is all, because the energy pulled out of the bridge rectifier across the coil is always going to be a different KIND of energy. Once in the battery it can be used like conventional energy, but cannot be put into a 3 battery system.

I doubt anyone reading this thread is much concerned with the lenz free thing unless it is in itself a COP>1 machine in which case stand alone testing should prove the case. However your next line would catch everyones attention Use a pulse to create more energy not how I see it David, call me picky if you want but all these researchers Bedini ,Newman, Adams ect use a pulse to create the conditions that can be tuned to receive energy and it is those conditions that are being considered . w.r.t any pulsed /spark gap /series capacitor battery system (including yours) I'm assuming the same considerations apply.
to think there are hundreds of undiscovered sources of free energy and each researcher has found one is outrageous . That each researcher has stumbled unwittingly on the same source of energy and cant quantify explain or most of the time duplicate the effect makes a lot more sense doesn't it ? That it is a different sort of energy to anything we might normally encouner goes without saying and the probable reason for that is already outlined
There is no real conflict with what you are writing, or at least not until you assume a spark creates energy oh by the way we are still chasing the same fox kindest regards Duncan.

[BroMikey]

Here is a collection of email exchanges on THE NEWMAN MOTOR.

Some say ignorance is BLISS?

JOE NEWMAN ACCUSED OF STEALING PROTOTYPE

Joe Newman - free energy claimant accused of incompetance

[Allcanadian]

@Bro

What I am saying I have said, THE LAWS you see come from the
SELF EXISTENT ONE that you call a man made religion. Your views
obviously are in direct opposition to mine on many matters and that
is your choice.

Oh the self existent one, sorry but something cannot be its own cause because it would have to have the causal power of being before it was.
Don't get me wrong it would be cool because I could cause myself to be a rainbow colored unicorn before I ever was one or even was not one... no wait I think I'm high again.

This action is known as intellectual dishonesty when folk trade natural
laws for lawlessness. My personal view as spoken before is that anyone
who changes all of the norms at random to suit their daily life can
not advance rational thought in any subject.

This presumes the norm was ever normal, did you know your ancestors used to poop in the woods and smash each other over the head with a club as foreplay?. Thank the self existent one they randomly changed that norm to suit their daily life and advance rational thought. I understand you said your person view is that they shouldn't have changed but I would disagree.

Do I have to write that on your forehead? George M. got HIV from his
lawless behavior, he was well known for public sex acts with other men
as gross as it may seem to me I guess you are fine with that.

You guessed wrong again, your not very good at this Bro.

Mean while I can not bring myself to trust people who pervert the
natural laws, when they do, something fights back and like in this
case are gone. If men pervert one thing they will pervert other ideas
so I would be unable to believe their science.

So your saying if I liked to spank the wife's bottom when she's naughty then you couldn't believe my science?. So if for example I said one plus one equals two you could believe me however if I spanked my wife's bottom then you couldn't believe me...interesting. So scientifically speaking your beliefs are dependent on the state of my wife's buttocks...very interesting.

Casting spells over the Hollywood audience brings down the big money in his case and his sacrifice was his manhood. Those are natural laws
well known today. I can't help it if you have been living in no man's
land and don't know the score.

So he cast a spell by sacrificing his manhood, his bits and pieces?, jesus christ that must have been some spell.
I think you should go to NASA and straighten them out Bro. Just walk right in there and tell them spell casting perverts you don't believe their science and the self existent one told you so. I'm sure they would all tremble in fear and repent on the spot...myself not so much.

AC

[Allcanadian]

@Bro

The LAW of the universe does not have dogs popping other dogs in
their back side hallelujah. My point is that if a person can not get these
most basic laws in proper order that they would never be able to do that
in the very complex.

Therein lies the problem and few in any know anything about the real laws of the universe. What your talking about are petty beliefs concocted my man such as religion, racism and money. The fact is if we were not exposed to these beliefs they would not exist and to presume they would in other places in the universe is wild speculation at best.

The only truly universal law is nature and so far as we know out of the trillions of galaxies each containing trillions of stars and planets only this one is inhabited by humans and their false ideals. As such your claim of knowing anything about universal law is a false claim because obviously nobody here has traveled throughout the universe and knows any better.

G.Michaels had lots of money? This is the measure of a man?
Now we can see where you stand with scientific reasoning.

No that's not what I said however I find it interesting how you have implied it relates to the measure of a man when it doesn't and then threw in scientific reasoning which has nothing to do with it. I'm not even sure how many logical fallacies you have committed with that paragraph... it may be a record of some sort.

It's like saying your dog is brown? This is racism against blacks?, now we see where you stand on multiplication. What the **** are you even saying dude?.

AC

[BroMikey]

Let's assume for just a moment that Newman actually HAD something that produced more out than what you put in. How did he get it?

Probably in much the same way as John B did with the SG...the collapse of a coil to produce a high voltage discharge that can be used to charge up a bank of batteries.

Once in the battery it can be used like conventional energy, but cannot be put into a 3 battery system.

Hey Turion

Excuse the moral fringe of outbursts while class is better spent your
way. Nobody gets down to the nuts and bolts of making it work like you
do. I am still gawking at rotor, gota get it finished and also I am setting
up my ceramic saw to cut ferite cores so I can make larger coils fit.

I have some new epoxy I like that can make mounts fit anything.
I am still dreaming up fixtures. Your words carry the most weight here
and I am putting 2 and 2 together from your earlier posts. Your work
is more than a collected pulse from a collapsing coil, the way we route
the power is vital.

[Allcanadian]

@Bro

In my mind this applies to several in the list of people you mentioned, Joe had big troubles, the first being he was born a Mormon and many men
who are at the engineering money levels are drawn into the Masonic
Lodge. It is well known that incestuous behavior has been part of the
Mormon community for decades.

The problem I see is when people start throwing around unfounded accusations it opens the door for everyone to start doing the same. If you have proof of your claims then show it and if not what you are doing is called slander and you need to stop because it's offensive.

Maybe you could show us the vast expanse of your work Bro?, I mean by the way you talk you seem to have it all figured out. Have you done anything of substance other than sit at the computer all day harassing other people?.

Did you see that George Michael just died? He did not follow the rules
as laid out by the maker of all things and he got those nasty unclean
spirits that cost him an early life.

Yes it must have been terrible to be rich, famous, successful, bring joy to millions of people and die at 53 years old. On the other hand to live twice that long and do nothing with your life seems like a waste of time. What have you done lately Bro?. I mean other than sit at the computer all day bashing people?.

AC

[Duncan]

continuing

You hang a few panels, maybe a windmill or water wheel and right next
to the battery bank is another set of large boxes called the accumulator
or the amplifier which really do all the work.

In my mind this applies to several in the list of people you mentioned, Joe
had big troubles, the first being he was born a Mormon and many men
who are at the engineering money levels are drawn into the Masonic
Lodge. It is well known that incestuous behavior has been part of the
Mormon community for decades.

In Detroit I knew some of the families and grown up watching first hand
where a father made children with all of his daughters. This was normal
to them and the children were deformed. Just another example in the
extreme where men do not pay attention to the laws given by the LAW
GIVER.

I know you are right in your assessments by the perfect selection of
terms when describing the multi-faceted nature of energy. It is like
a fabric woven together so when we are able to disturb that locked
together structure all of creation comes to the rescue to repair it.

a jolly good egg once said "Nuts"

[BroMikey]

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continuing

You hang a few panels, maybe a windmill or water wheel and right next
to the battery bank is another set of large boxes called the accumulator
or the amplifier which really do all the work.

In my mind this applies to several in the list of people you mentioned, Joe
had big troubles, the first being he was born a Mormon and many men
who are at the engineering money levels are drawn into the Masonic
Lodge. It is well known that incestuous behavior has been part of the
Mormon community for decades.

In Detroit I knew some of the families and grown up watching first hand
where a father made children with all of his daughters. This was normal
to them and the children were deformed. Just another example in the
extreme where men do not pay attention to the laws given by the LAW
GIVER.

I know you are right in your assessments by the perfect selection of
terms when describing the multi-faceted nature of energy. It is like
a fabric woven together so when we are able to disturb that locked
together structure all of creation comes to the rescue to repair it.

[BroMikey]

The Whole Truth

Nothing but the truth

Let me start by saying I have always noted your ability to express FE
far surpass mine, I understand you but writing it so fluently escapes me.

Yes thank you for you kind notation concerning the ministry, I started
summer classes at age 15 years in Birmingham Michigan.

All of the names you mentioned were people who were attacked unfairly.
Newman was not a victim even tho he claimed he was. Many never get
that patent and the one's who do never make the big money from them.

We all have learned that playing the hero gets an inventor either paid
off or dead. What should we do? That is easy Heins and Alek are doing
it right under our noses.

Produce an add-on innovation that works to enhance existing technology
this way our entire structure do not collapse over night. Let's play fair
and honor our inventors who have laid the foundation by adding to
their work so as to morph into the new day. Crushing the entire current
domain for instance is what Stan M. tried and that got him dead.

Yes i think wisdom is better than zeal and purity than superiority. Being
pure is all a relative statement today to a generation who does not
know the rule maker. Joe was a sick man, but so are all men without
hope if they follow only the survival of the fittest doctrine.

Did you see that George Michael just died? He did not follow the rules
as laid out by the maker of all things and he got those nasty unclean
spirits that cost him an early life.

it is so easy to figure out which side a person on , they are living a self
seeking script or one that is always conscience of the possibility that
their will harm others.

I saw Dennis deliver his you video and at one time he was not very
careful with his words. He didn't have to do the superman act. Listen to
Peter L. he told us all years ago what to do.

[Duncan]

So does just about every transformer style inverter. We can look at
a scope and find just about anything we want to. In a modified
set of stepped square pulses we can go to sine wave with a very very
short length of wire wound around a transformer core.

Seeing coils transform square pulses into AC is a very old practice.

Anyone who understands the radio wave circuits of the past knows that
waves are received in AC form and then manipulated by DC pulsating
circuits to amplify. This can alter the smooth AC signal to the point
that a simple filter is used to weed out the pure AC.

Nothing gained and nothing lost, just separated and or transformed.

In a way of course you are right Bro but don't be blinded by your conviction . It is reactive current we consider (Bemf-ish) . reseach the effect of 'triplens' and specifically to fast switched power supplies (like Bedini's SSG for instance) you'll find the increase in SMPS has led to a huge increace in neutral conductor size. This reactive current is cumlative and circulating and like the rest of EE taught in order to confuse also it is not Radio we consider but wireless if you don't know the difference re EPD video - again make the connection if your a 'radio' guy find the SWR that Eric decribes as 'your desire' compare it to what you might TX on and consider the implications of the reverse action compared to Radio.

[Duncan]

Hi BroMikey - I didn't know your real job was a preacher good work bro ! Its very difficult to discover just where the evil lies as you research what has been forced to become what is best described now as 'the free energy circus'
The legal system and social structure of countries are in the hands of elite. was Dennis lee imprisoned with no charge for over a year ? was all his equipment confiscated ? was Paul Pantone quickly maneuvered into a Utah mental hospital with no due process ? Was John Hutchinsons home raided and John arrested his equipment stolen and destroyed? was JB beaten up threatened and forced to tow the line? and just what did WE and I include myself in the big WE do about it ?
Just how many have been reported in newspapers for fraud or trickery ? I loose count it was certainly tried with Stan Meyer but of course the paint wouldn't stick and no investor would take the stand.
I guess as far as researchers into energy are concerned take anything in the rags with a pinch of snuff !
Did Newman Molest a youngster ? who really knows only Newman his conscious and his god (if he has one). I am not a particularly religious person myself BroMikey although the more I study this subject particularly at the margins of maths and science the more I become aware of a powerful organized hand controlling the universe and a planet that is designed to be benevolent to us.
Just my opinion of course but your speculation regarding the barrel isn't how I see things at all you are trying to apply standard science to the extraordinary. strangely a lot of the answer is shown in the second video you have just posted where 'lids' motor is spinning in proximity its noted else where that a magnet over twelve feet away from big Eureka would spin wildly I find some of the answer is in Aarons book 'The quantum key' it is also to a certain extent supported by EPD several times in his statements in this blistering video, of which JB once commented dryly "an unfortunate event"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHsEzPDVtog

particularly 'The first spacemen couldn't see anything at all in free space' and 'there are no transverse waves in free space' and more so in the case of the Newman machine the consideration of the operation of a transformer. If it doesn't and can't operate as we are taught then a viable alternative can only be external energy entering the transformer. The axle spinning with no coils whatsoever involved just about puts the tin hat on it !
The science you consider with your barrel example BroMikey uses only the accepted science of the transverse wave . The only science and maths taught since the absolute control of education,literature and media around the world circa 1912. This documentary tells of how oil,energy,greed and evil in belt and braces did that and why, (and yes religion too I'm afraid)

https://youtu.be/ySnk-f2ThpE

Alas if you think 'free energy' will resolve the situation open your peeps - the control levers are already being quickly moved.
In effect and in simple terms there are two magnetic (if you like) waves with us on our planet the transverse and the longitudinal we only know how to engineer the transverse wave - we have been intensionally blinded in one eye with salt being thrown at the other !
I shouldn't really post this connection I guess as David Waggoner and friends are trying to make a crust, my apologies to David, I'm afraid David Its the nature of the interweb that your works legion. David himself admits his 'fueless engine' is in turn plagiarized from Witts.(which also spawned Qeg) Newman, Bedini , Adams , and a host of other machines . Its an American disease to copy and claim,
Might I kindly suggest you dear reader contrive to download and save a copy of the fueless engine no 362, go to this post Vidbid has kindly provided on this thread and then to the creative science index download the fueless engine -362

http://www.energeticforum.com/295857-post17.html

your next task to study the operation principle and relate it directly to Newman , Bedini, Adams - make the connection just as David Waggoner has done . - and yes Mr Bowling sir specifically the 3BGS too!
the answers absolutely in plain sight now, and - In the kingdom of the blind the one eyed man is king Desiderius Erasmus
kindest regards Duncan

[BroMikey]

It takes the square wave (and by extension every thing under the curve) and converts it to a resonance curve.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQhvh3wd2I0&t=204s

So does just about every transformer style inverter. We can look at
a scope and find just about anything we want to. In a modified
set of stepped square pulses we can go to sine wave with a very very
short length of wire wound around a transformer core.

Seeing coils transform square pulses into AC is a very old practice.

Anyone who understands the radio wave circuits of the past knows that
waves are received in AC form and then manipulated by DC pulsating
circuits to amplify. This can alter the smooth AC signal to the point
that a simple filter is used to weed out the pure AC.

Nothing gained and nothing lost, just separated and or transformed.

[BroMikey]

I can see ways it might be tuned . It could also not be looped in the same
time domain as any altering of the input impedance must alter the resonant circuit .
kind regards D

Not very good, gonna do this gonna do that nothing motor.

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyHyHa7wvdk[/VIDEO]

[VIDEO]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VVdXqGJVraw[/VIDEO]

[BroMikey]

a horrible bloody thing to build . thousands
of winds of pretty thin wire are required (and winding gives me hives
and a twitch) - like Davids 3BGS of course - it isn't .
kind regards D

Hey Duncan

very good way of looking at it I would say. It makes me think of it
another way. Take a 55 gal drum 3/4 full of water and set it on a
fulcrum point at the bottom. The large body of water represents the
huge mass of wire.

Next tilt the barrel 1" to the right and stop waiting for the momentum
of the solution to slow down and just before it stops completely start
your 1" push in the reverse direction.

Now what do we have? We have a great deal of work being performed
by moving a lot of water for hopefully the least amount of 1" travel in
a push.

Now what? Well that is a good question if you ask me because whether
it is a large mass or small, a smaller push or slightly bigger the amount
of input to output seems only speculative.

Sorry D didn't mean to throw water.