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  • pjotterkjen
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    Originally posted by vidbid View Post
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  • vidbid
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    Experiment



    Check out this experiment.
    Last edited by vidbid; 02-15-2019, 05:39 AM.

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  • vidbid
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  • vidbid
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    No Claim Made As To Coil Constatly Being Shorted

    Originally posted by pjotterkjen View Post
    @vidbid: Would you mind explaining how this motor would start running on itself as was shown in the documentary, when the commutator was constantly shorting the coil?
    Please refer to the posted image for my response:

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  • pjotterkjen
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  • vidbid
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    Latest Design



    I believe that the result of the above design is that the coil remains shorted whenever it is not being charged by the battery.
    Last edited by vidbid; 02-15-2019, 05:37 AM.

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  • vidbid
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    Missing image in the previous post:


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    Originally posted by vidbid View Post
    Noticing a possible weld.

    Maybe the shorting band is continuous.



    Hence, a new diagram with a bridge bypassing the source contacts.


    This is the design that I going with presently.
    Last edited by vidbid; 02-15-2019, 05:36 AM.

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  • pjotterkjen
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    Originally posted by vidbid View Post
    Thanks for that.

    Below is my diagram of Newman's recent design..



    While the shorting bands are in contact with the coil contacts, would the coil remain charged?
    I think the coil is not directly connected.

    The inner ring connections look OK to me.

    Based on what I saw in the video so far, the only thing I'm pretty sure of is that the commutator on the outer ring sparks twice each revolution (I earlier thought it was only one time, my fault). Advancing the video a bit, we see the upper brush also sparks twice per revolution. But these upper sparks seem to be somewhat less bright.

    So to further reason, if the outer ring has only two long copper strips separated by two gaps (and no bridges), then they still do not represent the FIRE, BLANK, and SHORT segments, which we know are required in this machine to create an excess of electromagnetic energy in the coil copper atoms, as the input voltage pressure generates that as only being the 'catalytic' effect. The coil should be hit with a hammer repeatedly, or as Newman stated more like short strong punches like in boxing.

    I'm convinced these three important segments and their critical timing are being handled inside the big cover-up.

    pjotterkjen

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  • vidbid
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    New Diagram

    Noticing a possible weld.

    Maybe the shorting band is continuous.



    Hence, a new diagram with a bridge bypassing the source contacts.

    Last edited by vidbid; 02-15-2019, 05:34 AM.

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  • vidbid
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    Originally posted by pjotterkjen View Post
    So, to continue, I have plans to build the unit that was tested by Dr. Roger Hastings, described in detail in Chapter 6 of Newman's book.
    Thanks for that.

    Below is my diagram of Newman's recent design..



    While the shorting bands are in contact with the coil contacts, would the coil remain charged?

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  • pjotterkjen
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    Model 15-C2 or 22-K1

    So, to continue, I have plans to build the unit that was tested by Dr. Roger Hastings, described in detail in Chapter 6 of Newman's book.
    This one isn't that big (145 lbs.) and according to the specs produced 10 Watts of output with an input of less than 0.5 Watt.

    See attached picture.
    Has anybody replicated this unit, and what were his/her findings?

    I want this model on my test bench, and when it's there I plan to build a second better version with some of the components replaced by electronic parts, to improve the overall working of the device and get more out of it.

    To be clear on the subject, I have no intend to build a big one with lots of pounds of copper in it. Too expensive for me. Although that has proved to be one great working model, if I understand correctly the theory explained in the book by Newman himself, there should not be a need to do so. Nevertheless I need something to start with, and I think the small unit of Chapter 6 is an excellent starting point.

    pjotterkjen
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  • pjotterkjen
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    Break - revision

    Interesting, yes.

    I think there may be a possible and actually very simple explanation to the extremely big commutator on the Big Eureka.

    I assume, but of course this is my own interpretation, the thing is only swapping the battery input, nothing more. These segments are way too long.

    Remember that one of the original commutators had some 10 FIRE segments connected on one side, and another some 10 FIRE segments connected on the OTHER side, thereby flipping the battery polarity twice during one single revolution. This is all what I think the big commutator is doing. No big sparks come flying off the (carbon?) brushes so no big coil is connected directly there. To see proof of my conclusion, the video on the Big Eureka - The Energy Machine of Joseph Newman - at 0:09:44 in the right upper corner you see the big commutator' brush on the lower side and it is sparking only one time per revolution. In the attached picture you can see the spark. I saw there is also another brush above which makes the circuit complete.

    I suspect that the real commutator doing the actual FIRE, BLANK and SHORT segments was somewhere at the other end of the big covered coils with the rotating magnets, inside the big giant cover-up. Maybe a multiple commutator, as is suggested by Newman himself in his book, to reduce sparking. Who knows how many pounds of copper were in that thing?

    And the band shown most likely is just to hold everything together. One can see from the close-up pictures that Newman was not an excellent builder at all... of course it was all to confuse and distract everybody.

    All of this latest demo machine built shows how protective Newman had become... all very understandable when having seen the most important videos and read most documents about him.

    pjotterkjen
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    Last edited by pjotterkjen; 08-16-2017, 09:30 PM. Reason: forgot to attach picture

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  • vidbid
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    Break



    Close-up view of break in shorting band of the Big Eureka commutator
    Last edited by vidbid; 02-15-2019, 05:33 AM.

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  • vidbid
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    Joseph Newman's Big Eureka Motor Commutator Design

    Has anybody other than myself noticed that Joseph Newman's commutator for Big Eureka is quite different from what he has in his book?



    Notice the copper short-out segments are quite long.



    So, for most of the time, while the armature is rotating, the coil(s) is (are) shorted.

    There is only a momentary contact of the coil to the power supply.

    Interesting.
    Last edited by vidbid; 02-15-2019, 05:31 AM.

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  • maxc
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    Why with my Newman motor 1 of the 9 volt batteries is charging up backwards now?

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