Is it just me? I'm not seeing much evidence for either Suppression or FE?

[ewizard]

@Einstein

I can see your point and it makes perfect sense to compare a few hundred million anonymous teenagers copying music and games to a relatively small group of known people threatening a trillion dollar energy industry.
As always your logic is infallible.

AC

AC you need to use this rolleyes (sarcasm) smiley as obviously Ein~+ein doesn't get your sarcasm.

E, P2P did not destroy the music industry. They might want you to believe that but it's total BS. Most people using that would never have been able to buy all the stuff - not even a few percent of what some people got that way. I'm beginning to think your are so clueless that it's just hopeless. But I'll give you credit for this one as being one of the few statements you made that is about right: " Like a secret recipe, once the COMPLETE, DETAILED plans for a working OU device get posted online, and successfully replicated by members here and on other forums, it'll go viral and by that point, there's not much the trillion dollar industry can do--they'll be in pitiful damage control issuing dire warnings about fire or electrocution risks."

[Michael John Nunnerley]

Glad you get the point. Like a secret recipe, once the COMPLETE, DETAILED plans for a working OU device get posted online, and successfully replicated by members here and on other forums, it'll go viral and by that point, there's not much the trillion dollar industry can do--they'll be in pitiful damage control issuing dire warnings about fire or electrocution risks. Many here claim they've already replicated OU devices but as Farmhand suggests, they're incapable or unwilling to share either in the hopes of making millions or in fear* for their lives as MJN and IM report. This is why I'm saying, if suppression exists, it's been extremely effective.

*Ever note how the terms bravery and cowardice don't mean what they used to? Culturally, we've gone from heroes to superheroes to superstars.

I don't fear for my life as in life and death, but making your life uncomfortable is another thing. I don't have to hide, I'm easly found and haven't lived in the UK since they closed my company down, paid me what they thought the company had cost me, and put over 50 people out of work, I think that is pretty ruthless. One has to think of others, those near and dear, I still have all my work and more, but I work on things that won't rock the boat even though it is to do with energy, it is an acceptable energy which I supose could be taxed in one way or other, at least it is friendly in so much as green.

If you want totally free energy you are on a looser from the start, that is if you market it, it is no longer free

Mike

[jdodson]

Yes suppression does not exist, the government
has only been listening to your phone calls and
tracking online activity. Seen the news lately Einstein.

You dont really believe stopping terrorism is theyre
only agenda do you? Amazing isnt it, 300 million people
in america and the only major attack in the last decade
came from nails in a pressure cooker. Yet street bombings
happen every day in the middle east.

Artificially intelligent software have the capability to
simultaneousley monitor millions of different communication
lines. Keywords can flag whatever the agenda may be.
Like a human virus its easy to stop it in its tracks
when you catch it early and kill it at the source.

Everything communicated on the internet can be traced
to an IP physical location. Authorities are within minutes
of reaching any of us. This is why no one has a diagram to building
Atomic Bombs....Yet we all know those are VERY real.

A forum private message isnt private. That communication
data still passes through servers which are monitored
by the N.S.A software for "security".

Power suppression combined with inadequate laws of
physics being taught along with FE devices being complex
machines to build...Is why I believe they have yet to go viral.

[Ein~+ein]

Yes suppression does not exist, the government
has only been listening to your phone calls and tracking online activity. Seen the news lately Einstein.

With the internet, the flow of data works both ways--there are no secrets anymore as Wikileaks, the Arab Spring, and China's Bo Xilai scandal have proven. Centuries ago, we used to ascribe such omniscience and omnipotence to God. Now you're ascribing such powers to corporations/governments that can hardly protect themselves from cyber-espionage or cyber-crimes? Why do they allow oil spills, ruptured pipelines, proof of price-gouging at the pumps, and environmental devastation directly related to oil to make headlines? What kind of power is that?

Like I said, the whole OU evidence/suppression argument is a circular fallacy and if you throw in UFOs, its akin to religious belief. It's therefore ironic that big oil (Unocal 76) anonymously funded the beginnings of Christian fundamentalism a century ago.

[Ufopolitics]

A Simple way to Suppress...

With the internet, the flow of data works both ways--there are no secrets anymore as Wikileaks, the Arab Spring, and China's Bo Xilai scandal have proven. Centuries ago, we used to ascribe such omniscience and omnipotence to God. Now you're ascribing such powers to corporations/governments that can hardly protect themselves from cyber-espionage or cyber-crimes? Why do they allow oil spills, ruptured pipelines, proof of price-gouging at the pumps, and environmental devastation directly related to oil to make headlines? What kind of power is that?

Like I said, the whole OU evidence/suppression argument is a circular fallacy and if you throw in UFOs, its akin to religious belief. It's therefore ironic that big oil (Unocal 76) anonymously funded the beginnings of Christian fundamentalism a century ago.

Ein~tein,

There has been a very simple way to Suppress "Conflicting Technologies" for a very much long time ago......AND YES...BEFORE INTERNET EVEN EXISTS


INTERNATIONAL UTILITY/DESIGN PATENTS, TRADEMARKS OFFICES


United States have managed to become the "Ruling Boss" of this whole deal ...they have created an International CARTEL to SEIZE, CONTROL AND DISAPPEAR PATENTS ALL OVER THE PLANET...it is called:


PCT (PATENTS COMMONWEALTH TREATY)

And that comprehends OVER 125 Countries...except -of course- the "always enemies of US"....North Korea, Iran...etc,etc...


And GUESS WHO RULES the MAIN USPTO.gov (United States Patent and Trademark Office)??


THE DoD (DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE) and the DoE (DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY)


So...Isn't this SIMPLE ENOUGH?!...For You to "Discern/Evaluate/Judge" and get to the very OBVIOUS CONCLUSIONS?!



Simple ...Patent "X" makes it to Application Stage (If Law Firm TAKES THE HEAT/RISK TO DO SO...Very ODD)...examined and notify the "Proper Authorithies "ABOVE"...Then THEY DECIDE IF or NOT to Proceed...They will show "Interest" first...and if Inventor will not "buy" this...they simply and easily declare it "National Security Treat"...then You are finished as Inventor, as Human you are Silenced...By What Laws?


INVENTION SECRECY ACT OF 1951

Invention Secrecy Act - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


DO YOU WANT ME TO START UPLOADING FORMS HERE OF THE "PROCEDURES" TO GO FOR TO ALL THE "AFFILIATED" COUNTRIES EMBASSIES (AND OF COURSE ENFORCED "PRIMARILY" ON US LAND) RELATED TO PROHIBITION/SEIZING/INTERESTS OF ANY RELATED FE PATENT?!

Please stop this crappy Discussion...trying to "MINIMIZE" something that has existed for Centuries NOW! and read/gather some MORE INFO on this Subject...YOU NEED IT...You should have done it BEFORE OPENING THIS THREAD.

WAKE UP PEOPLE!!


It is a WASTE of time to keep posting here....I have MANY more interesting things to construct, replicate and produce...than this WASTE OF TIME.



UFOPOLITICS


AND YES, "Throw In" UFO's as well...They do use FE GALORE...Or You may think they "Stop" at every Galaxy MOBIL, EXXON or TEXACO...TO "RE-FUEL" THEIR SHIPS?...

Ufo in Belgium chased by air force F16's - YouTube (In Italian/French...so IF You don't understand them..too bad....check the lower then.

UFO Sightings in Belgium, 1990 - YouTube

JERUSALEM UFO 2011 - The 3 TRUE sightings (HD) - YouTube

UFO JERUSALEM DEEP ANALYSIS VIDEO 4 -PART 1 - YouTube

A CRITICAL ANALYSIS ON UFO JERUSALEM, A REAL EVENT - YouTube



And so on and on and on...Bah, never happened Uh?!


Don't MESS with ME on UFO's analysis Reality and "Debunking Debunker's"...My Friend...remember that is MY NAME!...

[Mad Scientist]

Speaking of UFO’s how about this?

UFO ALIEN DISCLOSURE by Canadian Minister of Defense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PPIHTOTan6A\

You don’t really believe that the oil spill in the gulf was and just an accident or the batch of recent shootings were just result of “lone gunmen” or that a guy hiding in a cave on the other side of the world was able to plan and carry out 911?

[Ein~+ein]

It is a WASTE of time to keep posting here.

Then don't.

Just ignore this thread in favor of those that tell you how to replicate an OU device. (Can anyone provide a link to one?)

[Ein~+ein]

Obama and Xi end 'constructive' summit

Last month the Washington Post, citing a confidential Pentagon report, reported that Chinese hackers had accessed designs for more than two dozen US weapons systems.

The US also directly accused Beijing of targeting US government computers as part of a cyber-espionage campaign in a report in early May.

I guess what the Chinese are really looking for are those suppressed OU patents that even the US Army pretends it doesn't have. With millions of engineering students graduating each year, an army of hackers, foreign 'student' spies, etc, rest assured, they'll 'discover' OU soon enough.

[Ein~+ein]

Speaking of UFO’s how about this?

UFO ALIEN DISCLOSURE by Canadian Minister of Defense

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=PPIHTOTan6A\

You must be talking about Paul Hellyer who WAS Canada's Defense Minister, 50 years ago. By the way, he also vied for leadership of not one but 2 political parties before attempting to form his own. But is he claiming anything other than hearsay? No doubt, there are many aliens in America and as a Canadian, he's one.

Not surprisingly, he also subscribes to the suppression conspiracy as this brief description from his address at last fall's Global Breakthrough Energy Movement Conference shows:

The only remaining problem is gaining access to exotic fuels which are controlled by the same elite group that runs the world through its banking and oil cartels. Only governments willing to confront the cabal and exercise their own sovereign powers fully on behalf of the people can save the situation.

It seems to me that to subscribe to an FE evidence suppression belief, you pretty well have to believe that neither (aliens,) the cabal, and/or even those who've successfully replicated 'exotic fuel' think we're civilized enough as a species to handle it and therefore deem in essential to do everything in their power to uphold the status quo--the lesser of two evils.

But what if Iran, Syria, or some other rogue state discovers it

[Mad Scientist]

You must be talking about Paul Hellyer who WAS Canada's Defense Minister, 50 years ago. By the way, he also vied for leadership of not one but 2 political parties before attempting to form his own. But is he claiming anything other than hearsay? No doubt, there are many aliens in America and as a Canadian, he's one.

Don’t know about him but yes there are, and a few of them don’t have our best interests at heart.

Not surprisingly, he also subscribes to the suppression conspiracy as this brief description from his address at last fall's Global Breakthrough Energy Movement Conference shows:
The only remaining problem is gaining access to exotic fuels which are controlled by the same elite group that runs the world through its banking and oil cartels. Only governments willing to confront the cabal and exercise their own sovereign powers fully on behalf of the people can save the situation.

That pretty much sums it up.

It seems to me that to subscribe to an FE evidence suppression belief, you pretty well have to believe that neither (aliens,) the cabal, and/or even those who've successfully replicated 'exotic fuel' think we're civilized enough as a species to handle it and therefore deem in essential to do everything in their power to uphold the status quo—

OK so at least you actually know what is going on even if you don’t what to believe it.

But what if Iran, Syria, or some other rogue state discovers it

Ah no problem, it that case all that would be done is to invent some excuse to invade them.
Think Iraq, Libya do to really believe we went in there because we were afraid that they might send their armies over here to attack us? Or that that we simply wanted to rid the world of some “evil dictators”?
But on the other hand both of these evil despots had the unimaginable gall to start selling their own oil by using gold or currency other then our worthless fiat Federal Reserve notes. It was at that point that they crossed over the line and ceased to be simple evil dictators and became a threat that needed to be removed.


The real world’s history is nothing close to the fairy tails that we were taught to believe in school or those from the MSM.

[Ein~+ein]

The real world’s history is nothing close to the fairy tails that we were taught to believe in school or those from the MSM.

So then you believed the Bush administrations rationale for invading Iraq--to take out the (FE) WMD?

[Mad Scientist]

So then you believed the Bush administrations rationale for invading Iraq--to take out the (FE) WMD?

NO,, just the opposite. The whole idea of WMD was a lie. Of course he did have some chemical weapons. How did we know that? Simple we are the ones that sold the Fxxxxxg things to him. Oh I'm sorry you are not supposed to know about that.

The "powers that be" had us invade Iraq to remove their "illustrious leader" because he refused to use our worthless fiat money for his oil sales.

[chainmailleman]

NO,, just the opposite. The whole idea of WMD was a lie. Of course he did have some chemical weapons. How did we know that? Simple we are the ones that sold the Fxxxxxg things to him. Oh I'm sorry you are not supposed to know about that.

The "powers that be" had us invade Iraq to remove their "illustrious leader" because he refused to use our worthless fiat money for his oil sales.

It's refreshing to see the truth pop out on this forum every now and again.

But this is just the tip of the iceberg. There are more examples of this throughout the last century surrounding the oil cartels.

Interesting to note that the first person to "directly" challenge the oil companies was Thomas Edison. Sadly, the same shareholders own the majority of both utilities throughout the world.......

[Ein~+ein]

NO,, just the opposite. The whole idea of WMD was a lie. Of course he did have some chemical weapons. How did we know that? Simple we are the ones that sold the Fxxxxxg things to him. Oh I'm sorry you are not supposed to know about that.

The "powers that be" had us invade Iraq to remove their "illustrious leader" because he refused to use our worthless fiat money for his oil sales.

You missed my point. I referred to (FE) WMD as in StarWars tech.

If America's enemies really wanted to do big-time damage, they wouldn't repeat 9/11. They'd do a direct hit on the oil cartel/banking cartel/hegemonic military-industrial economy (call it what you want). They wouldn't need suicide bombers, nuclear weapons or any other weapons. All they'd need is a few top notch hackers--heck, they could probably even recruit willing Americans, FOR FREE! Even some if not all members of Anonymous might willingly conspire with them to locate and mass distribute detailed plans for working OU devices.

Think about it! Wouldn't North Korea pose a much bigger threat to the US if it scrapped its nuclear weapons program in favor of publicly testing workable OU devices, especially those invented by Americans?

[Mad Scientist]

Speaking of “Star Wars” type weapons and 911. By chance have you watched a video of the buildings collapsing? The one where there was a really large chunk that was blown off and it is now free falling along side the building along with a lot of smaller debris. At this point it is totally detached from building with nothing “apparently” acting on it except gravity. What is interesting is if you were watching closely you see that this huge chunk of material slowly turns to dust right in front of your eyes.

Then after most of the building is on the ground there is this one tall spar still standing. At this point there are no large pieces still falling and nothing is impacting this remaining spar. And again if you were watching closely you see it doesn’t just fall over but rather slowly disintegrates and turns in to dust.

Yet we are supposed to believe that these buildings were destroyed and for the most part were turned into dust by some burning kerosene (aka jet fuel)!!!! I will suggest that what we witnessed was probably some of these “non-existent” Star Wars weapons in actual use.