anything that works?

[tecknomancer]

the light is on but there wearing shades

There are many great concepts but not much money available to the inventors who need funding.

Traditionally inventors choose the patent system for protection.

What happens is when any device which exceeds a certain COP, it raises an alarm bell somewhere.

If the technology is not favourable to the profits of the energy barons it is made to dissapear one way or another depending on how threatening it is.

Many inventors have witnessed this history and have started open sourcing.

Developing prototypes requires time and money.

Inventors don't want to get tied up with investors making them jump through hoops.

This is why R&D is slow

You just hit root of the problem, most people working on FE are Leary of taking that step and screaming at the world look at me, look at me... just take the time and do the research. Don't assume someone will openly hand you the answer
the answers are out there, all you got to do is look. just like in life there is no easy answer.

[velacreations]

like I've said before, conspiracies are distractions.

If you have evidence of a working FE machine, then post the evidence. Otherwise, there are many ways to fake something, even in person. I once saw a magician make a giant white tiger disappear right before my eyes. That doesn't mean it was real...

Data, measurements, verification. That's what we need. Conspiracies, hearsay, unproven theories, guesses, etc are distractions, not good science.

It seems like the answer to the original question is a resounding "no", unless we change the definition of "free energy" to suit our needs (see my new free energy device above).

[freepenguin]

1. How many people can stand an egg on the plain floor?

2. How many people can hold a cup on a thin letter/A4 paper?

3. How many people do know growing vegetables and plants without pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers, and no digging soil?

4. How many people can build a working FE power generator?

Above list is examples of unconventional way of thinking. I learned from number one to three in past. I've been studying a FE technology for few years during spare time on and off.

I thought many times why there was only one Nicola Tesla in history? Why not ten or hundreds Nicola Teslas? Considering huge number of students under modern education in world wide.

To the OP's question, I did see three real FE power generators. One inventor spent over thirty years to build a FE machine, another inventor took two years, and a scientist had built a machine to prove new theory in physics.

I honestly do not consider any technology that extract energy from matter, i.e. water, hydrogen, esoteric element, as Free Energy. These are just clean fossil fuels. Water is sacred, source of all life forms on Earth. Burning up massive amount of water for energy will destroy entire planet pretty soon unless humans become mature and intelligent.

All three machines use harmonic oscillation to increase and regulate total kinetic energy of the system to amplify input energy ten to twenty times. Conventional physics only consider closed loop system to study energy generation which makes impossible to create overunity device. New physics that uses the system theory or different set of axioms could explain, analyze overunity phenomenon in nature.

Electromagnetic force is 10^39 to 10^41 times stronger than gravity. I'm pretty sure some of inventors discovered extracting electromagnetic potential energy through harmonic oscillation principle, resonance. These devices have hundred times of COP number. TPTB probably had perfected some technologies decades ago IMHO.

The secret magic will be remarkably simple.

The biggest obstacle is collective stupidity. Nowadays people are blinded by money, and so dumbed down.

One last thing I like to say is
"How many people can build a economic flying car for general public?"
Kids can build a small airplane off the shelf. That thing fly like a big airliner.
Why not billions of people demand flying cars for safety and economic reasons? Trillions of dollars would be saved. Traffic accidents would drop many times. Environmental destruction will be reduced. I'm an idiot or the public is a bunch of stupid mass. Look how many university professors use tax payers money and do nothing while quality of living of working classes is falling down.

[soundiceuk]

There are many great concepts but not much money available to the inventors who need funding.

Traditionally inventors choose the patent system for protection.

What happens is when any device which exceeds a certain COP, it raises an alarm bell somewhere.

If the technology is not favourable to the profits of the energy barons it is made to dissapear one way or another depending on how threatening it is.

Many inventors have witnessed this history and have started open sourcing.

Developing prototypes requires time and money.

Inventors don't want to get tied up with investors making them jump through hoops.

This is why R&D is slow

[velacreations]

and that brings up another point. Several folks on here have said there are systems that work, have COP >1, excess energy, etc. How many people on this forum are powering their homes on this "free energy"?

If not, why not?

[velacreations]

just researching the Veljko 2 state mechanical oscillator a bit, I am not seeing the COP claims being verified. I also can't seem to find anyone producing electricity with it. There seem to be a few water pumps that work, but no comparisons of energy input vs water pumped.

Seems to be dubious, at best.

[velacreations]

Boxmotor replication without the generator

speed test

could you give us an explanation of the device, what it does, what measurements have been made, and how people can replicate it?

[tecknomancer]

Boxmotor

Is there anything in these forums that actually works, in terms of energy? Lots and lots of posts about free energy and devices. Lots and lots of failed replications.

Does anybody have anything that works?

Boxmotor replication without the generator


speed test

[velacreations]

Veljko 2 state mechanical oscillator
I first saw this several years ago, and thought it interesting. Has anyone here replicated it? And if so, what were the results? One of the things that I notice many, many times on the threads discussing this is to get it to produce electricity. But, I have not seen anyone actually do that. Why not?

It seems that if you have a 5 COP machine, then it would be the focus of everyone's attention on this board to replicate it, measure it, and produce free work. What am I missing?

[velacreations]

Farmhand, I agree with most of what you said, though, I think your post was meant for another thread???

In any case, if you are charging more than you are discharging, then you are not cycling the battery, and it will have an extended lifetime (assuming you have the proper controls to prevent overcharging). The key with deep cycle batteries is to avoid cycling them, and especially avoid deep discharge.

Thinking about the very liberal definition of "free energy" stated in this thread, I have come up with my new free energy system.

It consists of a regular extension cord. Take the male end, go to your neighbor's house and plug it into a wall socket. Take the female end, and plug in any appliance (the bigger, the better). Now, plugging the cord into the socket takes 20 watts, maybe, of work on your part, but you can literally run hundreds of kWh through your appliances this way. So, the COP approaches infinity, and this device gives us free energy at low cost and high usable output.

[Farmhand]

The ideal backup for solar systems is a dual battery bank. A lot of solar systems
grid tied are doomed to failure because at any time the power companies can
reject the power or at least reject paying for it at a reasonable rate, also when the
grid fails they are without power anyway.

THe way to go is to have a solar system with two battery banks so that if
one becomes fully charged the other bank then gets charged, like on days away.

With a regular PV and battery system the panels can only replace what is
taken out so a second bank can act as a buffer on low use full sun days both
banks get fully charged and only one is used minimally, then if it rains for a
while there is double the energy available. Discretion is the key, if there is
days of rain coming then cut back on use so both banks are charged and ready.

Also with this method batteries are treated better because one bank can be
used while the other charges from the excess, if consumption on the main
bank being used starts to drop the voltage from float V (as Vela explained) then all the energy can be
directed back to it to minimize the discharging of it.

Grid tie systems that charge a battery bank are available but expensive.

A single bank solar system does not charge and discharge at the same time.

The load either uses less than the solar panels produce and the batteries
keep charging with less power or it uses more than the panels produce and
the batteries give up power, like when a cloud goes between the sun and the
panel.

I think any pulsed system that draws from a battery during part of the cycle
and charges it during another part of the cycle is also doomed to failure
because of battery abuse, they cannot do that, it's almost like applying AC to
the battery. But it would be entirely possible to draw off 1 amp and recharge
with 10 amps during the respective cycle portions, if the battery is sized
accordingly as Vela also explained. But the battery will suffer an early failure,
batteries are expensive and quite toxic.

Cheers

[velacreations]

Installed China manufactured PV solar panels are now cheaper than what California electric utilities charge home owners per KWH ($0.15 to $0.35/KWH). The payback is less than 5 years. If you plan on staying in your home for more than 5 years, and you have the cash to do it, then china solar panels ($0.65 per watt FOB Long Beach) can not be beat. cheers

yeah, my home has been powered by solar and wind for over a decade. The system has already paid for itself a few times over.

[vrand]

yeah, I have been told a solar panel is one that works, as well. .

Installed China manufactured PV solar panels are now cheaper than what California electric utilities charge home owners per KWH ($0.15 to $0.35/KWH). The payback is less than 5 years. If you plan on staying in your home for more than 5 years, and you have the cash to do it, then china solar panels ($0.65 per watt FOB Long Beach) can not be beat. cheers

[Michael John Nunnerley]

First be careful

Whatever be careful, even that 1" spark that shows itself when you are putting the key in the front door could kill you from the knee jerk reaction of your head hitting the door frame. laughs apart, it happened to me several times, but I am still here like a bad egg

Mike

[velacreations]

The Veljko 2 state mechanical oscillator for example amplifies the energy about 5 times. Just add the work input on the small pendulum and then do the work calculations on the big hammer and you see that way more work is being produced than what it takes to swing the little pendulum.

There really are quite a few devices in Energetic Forum and Energy Science Forum that operating within these parameters and are true free energy over 1.0 cop technologies.

Please post links to devices that meet the following criteria:
Replicated several times by others
Produces usable quantity of output
Has been measured and verified of output by independent sources

And preferably post ones that you have personally replicated and measured output.